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Noxie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2227 Posts
March 14 2011 20:02 GMT
#241
FXO pays well. Knowing optik for a while he let me knew at least what he made.

Of course FXO isnt going to disclose what they pay... then everyone that wants that player can just dish out the money for him. His answer is the perfect reason why it was even bad for TSL to release there payroll
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-14 20:11:41
March 14 2011 20:03 GMT
#242
On March 15 2011 04:54 loklok wrote:
Why everyone is thinking that it's only fun? It is hard work. You have a full and strict scheudule. They can't sleep until 3 PM and play just for fun, check teamliquid and skip some games if they need a break. You are always under success pressure and have to represent your team in a good way in front of the media.

Of course if that is your dream and thats the thing you want to do then it's fun. But compare it to any other job, it's the same thing.

And there are no limits in salary in that kind of business. Compared to football player they it is an awkward salary and they are also just "have fun".


They don't have a full and strict schedule though. BW professionals may have had those, but the SC2 scene seems to be much more relaxed at this point. I've heard quite a few people who were involved with BW and now SC2 saying that they're thankful that the SC2 progaming environment isn't as spartan as it was in BW. Judging by browsing through playxp forums and watching those team house tours by Artosis, it looks like each player has his own schedule in when to wake up, practice, and go to bed for the most part. With that said, I'm sure they are indeed under a lot of pressure to succeed.
TelV
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany121 Posts
March 14 2011 20:33 GMT
#243
31k US Dollars seem to be quite much in Korea because i think the wages are not as high as they are in Europe or in the US.Or is 31k a normal payment for koreans?
Oreo7
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1647 Posts
March 14 2011 20:41 GMT
#244
The thing to remember is while this is a salary, the teams were already paying for living expenses.
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DirtYLOu
Profile Joined May 2010
575 Posts
March 14 2011 21:04 GMT
#245
On March 15 2011 05:33 TelV wrote:
31k US Dollars seem to be quite much in Korea because i think the wages are not as high as they are in Europe or in the US.Or is 31k a normal payment for koreans?



In Brood War, Flash is getting 250k a year. Bisu 200k a year. Jaedong 220k a year...

The vagues in SC2 are still a joke comparing to Brood War.
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PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
March 14 2011 21:05 GMT
#246
On March 15 2011 05:41 Gentleman7 wrote:
The thing to remember is while this is a salary, the teams were already paying for living expenses.

^this is pretty important. 31K plus Code S status (and any other tourneys) plus strongly reduced living costs.
the farm ends here
MoreFaSho
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1427 Posts
March 14 2011 21:05 GMT
#247
On March 15 2011 05:02 Noxie wrote:
FXO pays well. Knowing optik for a while he let me knew at least what he made.

Of course FXO isnt going to disclose what they pay... then everyone that wants that player can just dish out the money for him. His answer is the perfect reason why it was even bad for TSL to release there payroll

Unless they're hoping that they're paying more than others can and they want to poach top players.
I always try to shield slam face, just to make sure it doesnt work
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
March 14 2011 21:11 GMT
#248
On March 15 2011 06:04 DirtYLOu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 05:33 TelV wrote:
31k US Dollars seem to be quite much in Korea because i think the wages are not as high as they are in Europe or in the US.Or is 31k a normal payment for koreans?



In Brood War, Flash is getting 250k a year. Bisu 200k a year. Jaedong 220k a year...

The vagues in SC2 are still a joke comparing to Brood War.


Do you even know what you're talking about?

Do you have ANY IDEA the dropoff from those 3 versus your typical A-Class player? Never mention the B-Teamers that don't even get paid.

Please don't take the 3 highest earning players and then compare that to the entire e-sports scene as a whole.

Dont be this ignorant.
secret - never again
LuckyMacro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1482 Posts
March 14 2011 21:43 GMT
#249
I know office workers in SK who make less.
31k a year isn't a joke. And as people keep mentioning (though it's largely being ignored)...thats 30-31k of disposable income.
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
March 14 2011 21:46 GMT
#250
On March 15 2011 06:11 ch33psh33p wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 06:04 DirtYLOu wrote:
On March 15 2011 05:33 TelV wrote:
31k US Dollars seem to be quite much in Korea because i think the wages are not as high as they are in Europe or in the US.Or is 31k a normal payment for koreans?



In Brood War, Flash is getting 250k a year. Bisu 200k a year. Jaedong 220k a year...

The vagues in SC2 are still a joke comparing to Brood War.


Do you even know what you're talking about?

Do you have ANY IDEA the dropoff from those 3 versus your typical A-Class player? Never mention the B-Teamers that don't even get paid.

Please don't take the 3 highest earning players and then compare that to the entire e-sports scene as a whole.

Dont be this ignorant.


Almost every A-teamer (outside ACE) gets paid more than Tester and FD are getting now. Even players like Calm are getting paid over 100K.
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
March 14 2011 21:47 GMT
#251
On March 15 2011 06:46 setzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 06:11 ch33psh33p wrote:
On March 15 2011 06:04 DirtYLOu wrote:
On March 15 2011 05:33 TelV wrote:
31k US Dollars seem to be quite much in Korea because i think the wages are not as high as they are in Europe or in the US.Or is 31k a normal payment for koreans?



In Brood War, Flash is getting 250k a year. Bisu 200k a year. Jaedong 220k a year...

The vagues in SC2 are still a joke comparing to Brood War.


Do you even know what you're talking about?

Do you have ANY IDEA the dropoff from those 3 versus your typical A-Class player? Never mention the B-Teamers that don't even get paid.

Please don't take the 3 highest earning players and then compare that to the entire e-sports scene as a whole.

Dont be this ignorant.


Almost every A-teamer (outside ACE) gets paid more than Tester and FD are getting now. Even players like Calm are getting paid over 100K.



Thats more than 100% less than the top S-class players he mentioned.

Sure you can say BW wages are higher, but there's no reason to suggest everyone gets paid 200k.
secret - never again
deerpark87
Profile Joined January 2011
760 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-14 21:49:08
March 14 2011 21:47 GMT
#252
On March 15 2011 06:04 DirtYLOu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 05:33 TelV wrote:
31k US Dollars seem to be quite much in Korea because i think the wages are not as high as they are in Europe or in the US.Or is 31k a normal payment for koreans?



In Brood War, Flash is getting 250k a year. Bisu 200k a year. Jaedong 220k a year...

The vagues in SC2 are still a joke comparing to Brood War.


The joke that is less than 1 years old already has a team paying 30k salary. Sponsors starting to realize how big these team gets expose to foreigner scene. As far as i know, gomtv crashed last night because the amount of traffic it was receiving outside of korea.

Also, BenQ just announce it is now the official sponsor of Startales too. http://www.playxp.com/news/read.php?news_id=2681571 for their showing on IEM most likely.

SC2 will slowly grow with team bringing top notch sponsorship especially with heart of the swarms arround next year too. Higher salary will become imminent to players for better showing.

TemplarCo.
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico2870 Posts
March 14 2011 21:54 GMT
#253
Wow... Very good very good!!! :D
Slowly with this SC2 will become even more popular!!!
With an average game length of 7m36s over his 6 games in GSL3, this is a no-brainer. BitByBit pulls more SCVs than yo momma at a club on Mar Sara. ♞
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
March 14 2011 22:01 GMT
#254
On March 15 2011 06:46 setzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 06:11 ch33psh33p wrote:
On March 15 2011 06:04 DirtYLOu wrote:
On March 15 2011 05:33 TelV wrote:
31k US Dollars seem to be quite much in Korea because i think the wages are not as high as they are in Europe or in the US.Or is 31k a normal payment for koreans?



In Brood War, Flash is getting 250k a year. Bisu 200k a year. Jaedong 220k a year...

The vagues in SC2 are still a joke comparing to Brood War.


Do you even know what you're talking about?

Do you have ANY IDEA the dropoff from those 3 versus your typical A-Class player? Never mention the B-Teamers that don't even get paid.

Please don't take the 3 highest earning players and then compare that to the entire e-sports scene as a whole.

Dont be this ignorant.


Almost every A-teamer (outside ACE) gets paid more than Tester and FD are getting now. Even players like Calm are getting paid over 100K.



And they should be... for one, there is far more money in tournaments in SC2 then SC:BW.
and 2nd: dude, BW has been around for 10+ years, SC2 for 6 months. I would hope BW players that are established are getting payed more
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HowSoOnIsNow
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada480 Posts
March 14 2011 22:06 GMT
#255
On March 15 2011 06:47 deerpark87 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 06:04 DirtYLOu wrote:
On March 15 2011 05:33 TelV wrote:
31k US Dollars seem to be quite much in Korea because i think the wages are not as high as they are in Europe or in the US.Or is 31k a normal payment for koreans?



In Brood War, Flash is getting 250k a year. Bisu 200k a year. Jaedong 220k a year...

The vagues in SC2 are still a joke comparing to Brood War.


The joke that is less than 1 years old already has a team paying 30k salary. Sponsors starting to realize how big these team gets expose to foreigner scene. As far as i know, gomtv crashed last night because the amount of traffic it was receiving outside of korea.

Also, BenQ just announce it is now the official sponsor of Startales too. http://www.playxp.com/news/read.php?news_id=2681571 for their showing on IEM most likely.

SC2 will slowly grow with team bringing top notch sponsorship especially with heart of the swarms arround next year too. Higher salary will become imminent to players for better showing.




That`s great! If they can get international sponsors because of their showing at IEM, it might open up the Korean SC2 community to the world. Its also potentially drawing a bigger pool of money to Sc 2 than Brood War. It`s great that a team like StarTale recognize that. They just need to give them some english conversation courses and they`re ready to go.

Ahahaha and if all fails for Ace, he always could take the modeling road! Have you seen his face lol. He just need to lose a little facial weight, because he got the facial lines for the work....(no homo o___o)
Real mens play Zerg.. Startale fighting.
frozt_
Profile Joined January 2011
United States234 Posts
March 14 2011 22:09 GMT
#256
That's great to hear, hopefully the other teams sponsor will eventually follow suit. Especially with WCG removing BW I imagine a little more players will switch over to starcraft II, and eventually starcraft II should become mainstream enough for salaries on each team etc. Especially with the publicitiy + Show Spoiler +
July vs MC should bring in the finals of this seasons GSL
Practice and dedication reveals the greatness within a player
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-14 22:12:26
March 14 2011 22:10 GMT
#257
Wow that is a LOT of money! Considering it is eSports and this is Korea where the average salary is almost half of the average in USA

Especially with prizes like FruitDealer's $80k something from GSL1, he'll be set for at least 4 years even if he stops being paid from the sponsor, and that's not even considering he might live with his parents and so not have to pay rent.

Edit: wow just realized, yeah they're being paid for to live there too xD so that is a TON of cash!
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
March 14 2011 22:15 GMT
#258
I just want to say there's maybe 30 players in BW that make over 30k. Plus the prize winning in BW are smaller right now.

And most people really underestimate how much 30k is when you don't have to pay rent, bills, food, electricity etc. It's a lot of money, and they have about as much spending money as people who make 60-70k a year after they pay their mortgage, car loan etc etc. It is true it's hard to compare the two since the two lifestyles are much different and the gamer one is more conservative.
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infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
March 14 2011 22:45 GMT
#259
On March 15 2011 07:09 frozt_ wrote:
That's great to hear, hopefully the other teams sponsor will eventually follow suit. Especially with WCG removing BW I imagine a little more players will switch over to starcraft II, and eventually starcraft II should become mainstream enough for salaries on each team etc. Especially with the publicitiy + Show Spoiler +
July vs MC should bring in the finals of this seasons GSL


WCG is basically irrelevant for Korean BW.
biskit
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia355 Posts
March 15 2011 00:57 GMT
#260
Awesome! I hope TSL's performance improves now. I'm looking forward to FD and Tester come back story.
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