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United States7481 Posts
On March 15 2011 06:46 setzer wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 06:11 ch33psh33p wrote:On March 15 2011 06:04 DirtYLOu wrote:On March 15 2011 05:33 TelV wrote:
31k US Dollars seem to be quite much in Korea because i think the wages are not as high as they are in Europe or in the US.Or is 31k a normal payment for koreans? In Brood War, Flash is getting 250k a year. Bisu 200k a year. Jaedong 220k a year... The vagues in SC2 are still a joke comparing to Brood War. Do you even know what you're talking about? Do you have ANY IDEA the dropoff from those 3 versus your typical A-Class player? Never mention the B-Teamers that don't even get paid. Please don't take the 3 highest earning players and then compare that to the entire e-sports scene as a whole. Dont be this ignorant. Almost every A-teamer (outside ACE) gets paid more than Tester and FD are getting now. Even players like Calm are getting paid over 100K.
as you can see here, that's not even close to true. although there are a significant amount of a-teamers getting paid more than FD and Tester, it's not even close to "almost every". Yes, players still get paid more on BW teams than sc2 teams. But please don't exaggerate to that extent, it discredits you.
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It is pretty annoying people are comparing BW salaries to the salaries FD and tester are getting atm.
BW scene is still bigger then the SC2 scene in korea and it will stay like that for a while until more KR players start switching.
The point is, BW will only get smaller and SC2 can only get bigger at this point.
Also SC2 is officially released for like 7-8 months now? I hope you get my point with this.
They had to check everything out first, what did you expect?
A new game which happens to have the same title as it's older version where the pro's would earn 6digit salaries within the first few months?
give it another year and we will probably start seeing these numbers.
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Hmmmm, really nice for the TSL, they better perform well in the GSTL 
Comparing to some salaries in BW, this seems like a really nice way to start off.
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On March 15 2011 05:33 TelV wrote:
31k US Dollars seem to be quite much in Korea because i think the wages are not as high as they are in Europe or in the US.Or is 31k a normal payment for koreans?
I am baffled people still ask questions like this
SK is not a third world country
Go look it up
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Yes!
The redevelopment of paid Korean progaming teams that are in BW (:
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On March 15 2011 04:03 HowSoOnIsNow wrote:
Amazing, now the scene is getting serious. That`s basic salary plus what they win at the GSL, it`s very encouraging. It`s not the 250 000k a year Bisu and Flash makes, but with more exposure, we`re getting there. Most of these guys are quite young so i mean, getting that kind of money and having the chance to win 50 000k per months is gonna push people into the scene.
Good news all in all. .....oh and CLide should get a muthafuckin pay raise ahahhaah.
wtf 250k a year? Are you sure???
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On March 15 2011 10:24 Washow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 04:03 HowSoOnIsNow wrote:
Amazing, now the scene is getting serious. That`s basic salary plus what they win at the GSL, it`s very encouraging. It`s not the 250 000k a year Bisu and Flash makes, but with more exposure, we`re getting there. Most of these guys are quite young so i mean, getting that kind of money and having the chance to win 50 000k per months is gonna push people into the scene.
Good news all in all. .....oh and CLide should get a muthafuckin pay raise ahahhaah. wtf 250k a year? Are you sure???
Pretty sure Xellos made 200k in 06, nada also made a similar amount. Boxer got a 200k sponsorship, which is sorta the same thing.
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Coach Lee is amazing at SC and at negotiations! Really nice to see the sponsors stepping up even more with 60% increase in sponsorships!
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how much do BW pros get paid?
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On March 14 2011 14:45 aike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2011 14:43 Nuri wrote:
wow not bad getting 31k usd just to play sc2 per year But considering it's like a 80+ hour a week job... is it really worth it?  And yea I do believe a lot of the major foreigner teams pay salaries.
Doing what you love and getting paid = worth it.
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aww shiet!!! awesome!
love fruitdealerrrrrrr
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Oh wow. I'm Korean and I never knew that they get paid so well!
That's like making 500 ~ 600k in US because housing/food/etc is all paid for already. They live in super expensive high rise luxury apartments already since their sponsors are samsung and stuff :p
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On March 15 2011 10:23 ktimekiller wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 05:33 TelV wrote:
31k US Dollars seem to be quite much in Korea because i think the wages are not as high as they are in Europe or in the US.Or is 31k a normal payment for koreans? I am baffled people still ask questions like this SK is not a third world country Go look it up
He's not saying it's a 3rd World Country, he's saying he thought the cost of living was cheaper there (which if I remember correctly it is). There's quite a difference.
OT, this is some pretty cool news. Like others have said in this thread already, SC2 can only really grow from this point. It wasn't going to happen overnight, but this is definitely going to be a game that sticks around for a very long time.
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This is a good step. If we're lucky, other prolific sponsors will start financing more teams so we have a stable league...and then...THE WORLD.
But baby steps first, eh?
On March 15 2011 10:27 MadCatZ wrote:
how much do BW pros get paid?
Nada got paid over $200,000 a year in his heyday, and TBLS get similar salaries IIRC. Lesser players are in the five-digit range, but I imagine Fantasy and Hydra also have solid salaries.
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On March 15 2011 10:03 Antoine wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 06:46 setzer wrote:On March 15 2011 06:11 ch33psh33p wrote:On March 15 2011 06:04 DirtYLOu wrote:On March 15 2011 05:33 TelV wrote:
31k US Dollars seem to be quite much in Korea because i think the wages are not as high as they are in Europe or in the US.Or is 31k a normal payment for koreans? In Brood War, Flash is getting 250k a year. Bisu 200k a year. Jaedong 220k a year... The vagues in SC2 are still a joke comparing to Brood War. Do you even know what you're talking about? Do you have ANY IDEA the dropoff from those 3 versus your typical A-Class player? Never mention the B-Teamers that don't even get paid. Please don't take the 3 highest earning players and then compare that to the entire e-sports scene as a whole. Dont be this ignorant. Almost every A-teamer (outside ACE) gets paid more than Tester and FD are getting now. Even players like Calm are getting paid over 100K. as you can see here, that's not even close to true. although there are a significant amount of a-teamers getting paid more than FD and Tester, it's not even close to "almost every". Yes, players still get paid more on BW teams than sc2 teams. But please don't exaggerate to that extent, it discredits you.
For one Milkis even says the information could be completely inaccurate given the credibility of the source. Second, even if all those numbers are true 80% of the salaries listed are more then Tester's. I may have exaggerated a little but you didn't prove I was wrong.
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On March 15 2011 10:24 Washow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 04:03 HowSoOnIsNow wrote:
Amazing, now the scene is getting serious. That`s basic salary plus what they win at the GSL, it`s very encouraging. It`s not the 250 000k a year Bisu and Flash makes, but with more exposure, we`re getting there. Most of these guys are quite young so i mean, getting that kind of money and having the chance to win 50 000k per months is gonna push people into the scene.
Good news all in all. .....oh and CLide should get a muthafuckin pay raise ahahhaah. wtf 250k a year? Are you sure???
Flash and Bisu basically DEFINE their teams, I'd hope they would make that much.
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30k is pretty damn good considering the circumstances
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United States7481 Posts
On March 15 2011 10:40 setzer wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 10:03 Antoine wrote:On March 15 2011 06:46 setzer wrote:On March 15 2011 06:11 ch33psh33p wrote:On March 15 2011 06:04 DirtYLOu wrote:On March 15 2011 05:33 TelV wrote:
31k US Dollars seem to be quite much in Korea because i think the wages are not as high as they are in Europe or in the US.Or is 31k a normal payment for koreans? In Brood War, Flash is getting 250k a year. Bisu 200k a year. Jaedong 220k a year... The vagues in SC2 are still a joke comparing to Brood War. Do you even know what you're talking about? Do you have ANY IDEA the dropoff from those 3 versus your typical A-Class player? Never mention the B-Teamers that don't even get paid. Please don't take the 3 highest earning players and then compare that to the entire e-sports scene as a whole. Dont be this ignorant. Almost every A-teamer (outside ACE) gets paid more than Tester and FD are getting now. Even players like Calm are getting paid over 100K. as you can see here, that's not even close to true. although there are a significant amount of a-teamers getting paid more than FD and Tester, it's not even close to "almost every". Yes, players still get paid more on BW teams than sc2 teams. But please don't exaggerate to that extent, it discredits you. For one Milkis even says the information could be completely inaccurate given the credibility of the source. Second, even if all those numbers are true 80% of the salaries listed are more then Tester's. I may have exaggerated a little but you didn't prove I was wrong.
Yes, I did. the linked post has the top 30 KeSPA ranked players. I would say there are 8-9 A-teamers per team on average, and 11 teams, that's 90-100 active A teamers. In that list there are about 25 people making more than Tester. That's not "almost every A-teamer". In addition, the information directly contradicts your claim that Calm is getting paid over 100k. Finally, if you claim that my numbers are inaccurate, please post contradictory information from a good source, since yes the credibility of Milkis's source is questionable.
To link it once again for those asking again, here are the salaries of the top 30 KesPA rank progamers last August.
Back on topic, congrats once again to Coach Lee for lining this up with the sponsors, and to the players on the team. Definitely a good step forward towards sustainable pro SC2 in Korea.
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On March 15 2011 10:28 Washow wrote:
Oh wow. I'm Korean and I never knew that they get paid so well!
That's like making 500 ~ 600k in US because housing/food/etc is all paid for already. They live in super expensive high rise luxury apartments already since their sponsors are samsung and stuff :p
Anytime we have a discussion about salaries we have people making ridiculous comments about the disparity in the cost of living between Korea and other western countries. Equivalent of 500 ~ 600k? I'm going to hope you meant 50K to 60K. Also, you can't just compare numbers because tax rates are different for every single country (and every single state if you live in the US). I used to make less in Korea than I did in the States, but my disposable income was higher - as I received better tax benefits in Korea.
Like anywhere else in the world, if you want to live off of ramen, drink cheap alcohol and buy cheap clothes you are going to be able to last a long time on 30k a year. If, however, you want to buy yourself some decent clothes and eat some decent food, it won't be quite enough.
Let's stop the blanket statements comparing different countries.. it's too hard to do that. However, having worked in Korea for the past 5 years now, and from what I hear from friends and entry level colleagues, I think it's safe to say that the amount FD and Trickster receive are about average entry level salaries for large companies. (However, large companies also offer lots of fringe benefits that pro-gamers might not receive, so in the end.. it's hard to compare anything)
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I am baffled people still ask questions like this
SK is not a third world country
Go look it up
On average, they still make almost only half of what the average USA citizen makes.
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