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Toads
Canada1795 Posts
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NabeShogun
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Chill
Calgary26001 Posts
On March 08 2011 08:10 hugman wrote: Well if you read it backwards you CAN guess it, forwards it makes little sense Try reading "somebody set up us the bomb" backwards though  WHOA WTF?! | ||
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magha
Netherlands427 Posts
On March 08 2011 07:39 Xeph wrote: Here's short translation: We're going to maintain the number of ladder maps to 9 with 3 macro-oriented, 3 aggresive and 3 normal maps, so that a player can thumb down based on the player's preference. GSL maps(soon) are macro-oriented. With 3 downvotes that gives people a lot of freedom in what type of maps they want to play (even having the option to elimate a complete specific type of map). Sounds awesome! Can't wait! | ||
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Starshaped
Sweden575 Posts
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SDream
Brazil896 Posts
Help me here guys: Aggressive maps: Slag Delta Jungle Valley(? removed. We have 8 maps right now) Intermediate: Lost Temple Metal Backwater Scrap Xel'naga Macro: Tiphoon I think Metal and possible Backwater are supposed to be macro then... | ||
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
On March 08 2011 07:50 PartyBiscuit wrote: I'd like to know if this means the removal of some more maps in the current pool though, if these THREE maps are added globally the map rotation would be a lot bigger than it currently is (unless they remove...DQ, Slag, and Backwater )I'd be befuddled if DQ doesn't get removed. It was designed to be a macro map (and was apparently popular when it first came out, according to Destiny's stream), but tourney players hate it, and casual players hate it, really...no one likes DQ. Interestingly, if Blizzard was planning to do this all along, then the removal of Shakuras suddenly makes sense. They need some micro maps because a decent subset of the player base likes them, and they're about to inject 4 huge maps in the pool. They got rid of a macro map not because they hated macro maps, but because they were about to introduce 4 more to the ladder and wanted to make room. Lesson learned: Never trust Blizzard when they explain a decision, because they are expert trolls. Probably Metal will be removed, because a.) It's old, b.) They don't want the whole ladder being tourney-friendly maps and c.) the people who like Metal the most won't really mind because GSL Maps are awesome. I don't think there's any four maps that could be taken out that TL would complain about, if they were replaced with GSL maps. So, the Ladder Pool would be... Shattered Temple Slag Pits Typhon Peaks Backwater Gulch (I don't see them removing this so soon after rolling it out) Scrap Station Xel'Naga Caverns Tal'Darim Altar Crevasse Crossfire SE Terminus RE Possibly with...I'd say Scrap Station being removed to bring us to 9 maps, which seems to be the number Blizzard is happy with. Given that you can downvote 3 of them, most of TL would be playing on a map pool of: Shattered Temple Typhon Peaks Xel'Naga Caverns Tal'Darim Altar Crevasse Crossfire SE Terminus RE With a downvote to spare if Scrap Station does end up getting the axe. Can anyone, even on Team Liquid, really complain about that map lineup? | ||
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pzea469
United States1520 Posts
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xVoiid
Canada199 Posts
On March 08 2011 08:14 Starshaped wrote: I remember on a map like Kulas Ravine I could almost never 3rax all-in zergs. I don't want Blizzard to favour macroers over micro/strategy-oriented players with huge boring maps. I SERIOUSLY hope you're being sarcastic... | ||
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Sixer
United States278 Posts
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Sixer
United States278 Posts
Well if you read it backwards you CAN guess it, forwards it makes little sense Try reading "somebody set up us the bomb" backwards though i'm stupid and still trying to figure this out ;o | ||
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Mercury-
Great Britain804 Posts
On March 08 2011 08:00 PartyBiscuit wrote: You can still 4 gate ezpz  In all seriousness though, if you feel like cheesing or 1basing on the larger maps, they are still perfectly doable (i.e. Rain still can dish that out on GSL), it will just likely be less effective. Also, we don't know what maps are being replaced in the map pool yet with the GSL ones etc. First of all I like playing Terrans, Terrans can't 4gate. If I want to do my favorite strategy on one of the new maps (4 Rax and SCV Rush) they will have enough units to hold it off. That's total bullshit. User was warned for this post | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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PartyBiscuit
Canada4525 Posts
On March 08 2011 08:15 Ribbon wrote: So, the Ladder Pool would be... Shattered Temple Slag Pits Typhon Peaks Backwater Gulch (I don't see them removing this so soon after rolling it out) Scrap Station Xel'Naga Caverns Tal'Darim Altar Crevasse Crossfire SE Terminus RE Don't think Crossfire is one of the new maps coming up, so that means either Metal or Scrap would ideally be left on the pool. The only way I can see them doing the 3/3/3 split of aggression, intermediate, and macro is if they consider that the possibility of close spawn makes the map more aggro, with that logic: Shattered Temple (aggro) Slag Pits (aggro - despite what the original Blizz explanation was) Typhon Peaks (inter) Backwater Gulch (inter or aggro) Scrap Station or Metal >>probably Scrap for an Intermediate? Xel'Naga Caverns (inter) Tal'Darim Altar (macro) Crevasse (macro) Terminus RE (macro) | ||
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Entropic
Canada2837 Posts
Tal Darim Crevasse PLZ PLZ PLZ Say no to terminus, 3rd is way too easy to take favouring P in pvt and pvz, and then favouring T in TvZ. | ||
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exarchrum
United States491 Posts
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GagnarTheUnruly
United States655 Posts
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Starshaped
Sweden575 Posts
I SERIOUSLY hope you're being sarcastic... Look, Starcraft 2 is a Real Time STRATEGY game. I think it's reasonable for a micro/strategy player such as myself to want to fight on fair terms against macro players. If not then why call it an RTS? User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Candles
United Kingdom103 Posts
I understand we might still get close air on Shattered Temple, Metalopolis and Slag pits but it's still a shame to not have the map with the most different feel. | ||
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GinDo
3327 Posts
On March 08 2011 08:15 Ribbon wrote: I'm startled Blizz is doing this, but I fully support and endorse it. I'd be befuddled if DQ doesn't get removed. It was designed to be a macro map (and was apparently popular when it first came out, according to Destiny's stream), but tourney players hate it, and casual players hate it, really...no one likes DQ. Interestingly, if Blizzard was planning to do this all along, then the removal of Shakuras suddenly makes sense. They need some micro maps because a decent subset of the player base likes them, and they're about to inject 4 huge maps in the pool. They got rid of a macro map not because they hated macro maps, but because they were about to introduce 4 more to the ladder and wanted to make room. Lesson learned: Never trust Blizzard when they explain a decision, because they are expert trolls. Probably Metal will be removed, because a.) It's old, b.) They don't want the whole ladder being tourney-friendly maps and c.) the people who like Metal the most won't really mind because GSL Maps are awesome. I don't think there's any four maps that could be taken out that TL would complain about, if they were replaced with GSL maps. So, the Ladder Pool would be... Shattered Temple Slag Pits Typhon Peaks Backwater Gulch (I don't see them removing this so soon after rolling it out) Scrap Station Xel'Naga Caverns Tal'Darim Altar Crevasse Crossfire SE Terminus RE Possibly with...I'd say Scrap Station being removed to bring us to 9 maps, which seems to be the number Blizzard is happy with. Given that you can downvote 3 of them, most of TL would be playing on a map pool of: Shattered Temple Typhon Peaks Xel'Naga Caverns Tal'Darim Altar Crevasse Crossfire SE Terminus RE With a downvote to spare if Scrap Station does end up getting the axe. Can anyone, even on Team Liquid, really complain about that map lineup? Praying they get rid of scrap station. That map is so awkward and literally i have a 0% win rate against Toss on that map. And TvT on that map is just annoying-> Kill all your workers Opener, Undefendable drop play, And a Natural you can't take because of 4 Gate and Blink Stalker Collosi. | ||
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