• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:30
CEST 12:30
KST 19:30
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview6[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors8Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10
Community News
Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !7Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event12Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results12026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers25
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base
Brood War
General
Quality of life changes in BW that you will like ? Why there arent any 256x256 pro maps? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site Tulbo's ASL S21 Ro8 Post-Review
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro8 Day 4 [ASL21] Ro8 Day 3 Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Daigo vs Menard Best of 10 OutLive 25 (RTS Game)
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Letting Off Steam Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How EEG Data Can Predict Gam…
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1827 users

GSL Maps on Ladder SOON™ - Page 7

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 22 Next All
Qwantz
Profile Joined June 2010
Spain44 Posts
March 07 2011 23:38 GMT
#121
They shouldn't remove Metalopolis, and there are some new maps that suck (Typhon / Backwater / Slag Pits, specially this last one) I think more like:

Aggresive maps:
- Xel'Naga Caverns
- Scrap Station
- ??? (GSL Crossfire would be cool)

Intermediate maps:
- Metalopolis
- The Shattered Temple
- Backwater Gultch/Slag Pits

Macro maps:
- Crevasse
- Terminus RE
- Tal'Darim Altar
So... what?
FarbrorAbavna
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden4856 Posts
March 07 2011 23:38 GMT
#122
good times, really good times. Just so happy! :D
Do you really want chat rooms?
Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2929 Posts
March 07 2011 23:39 GMT
#123
Oh my god, my ladder ranking is going to go so high
Cinematographer / Steadicam Operator. Former Starcraft commentator/player
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
March 07 2011 23:40 GMT
#124
This is great news!

I'm so excited! Hopefully this will be implemented soon!
riverkim09
Profile Joined November 2010
United States291 Posts
March 07 2011 23:40 GMT
#125
YEAH~~ NOW PROTOSS CAN OWN ME MORE ON LADDER~~

User was temp banned for this post.
Sigmur
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland497 Posts
March 07 2011 23:42 GMT
#126
On March 08 2011 08:40 riverkim09 wrote:
YEAH~~ NOW PROTOSS CAN OWN ME MORE ON LADDER~~

Good to hear.

These maps are awesome, cannot wait! ^^
Oldern
Profile Joined February 2011
Hungary21 Posts
March 07 2011 23:46 GMT
#127
This is very, very good news indeed.
And now, hopefully some people will realize that Blizzard indeed DOES listen, and does not work/balance in a vaacum.
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
March 07 2011 23:47 GMT
#128
On March 08 2011 08:38 Qwantz wrote:
They shouldn't remove Metalopolis, and there are some new maps that suck (Typhon / Backwater / Slag Pits, specially this last one) I think more like:

Aggresive maps:
- Xel'Naga Caverns
- Scrap Station
- ??? (GSL Crossfire would be cool)

Intermediate maps:
- Metalopolis
- The Shattered Temple
- Backwater Gultch/Slag Pits

Macro maps:
- Crevasse
- Terminus RE
- Tal'Darim Altar



Typhoon is actually pretty good map at least compared to Backwater and Slag. Metal is probably gonna be replaced its old and its boring so will Scrap. Not only that but Backwater and Slag are Aggro maps while Xel and Scrap are more intermediate. Crossfire isn't that aggro either.

I think you confusing 2 plaer maps with aggression. That isn't always the case.
ⱩŦ ƑⱠẬ$Ħ / ƩǤ ɈƩẬƉØƝǤ [ɌȻ] / ȊṂ.ṂṼⱣ / ẬȻƩɌ.ȊƝƝØṼẬŦȊØƝ / ẬȻƩɌ.ϟȻẬɌⱠƩŦŦ ϟⱠẬɎƩɌϟ ȻⱠẬƝ
universalwill
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States654 Posts
March 07 2011 23:47 GMT
#129
no more nonexistent rush distances? i can go for that

if they tell me that they're going to remove close positions on shattered temple and metal then i'll just be the happiest clam on the seabed
Benjilol
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia244 Posts
March 07 2011 23:47 GMT
#130
Now lets just hope they get rid of really terrible maps like Slag Pits, DQ and Backwater for the GSL maps!
| Manager of Xeria Gaming | www.xeriagaming.com |
Hobokinz
Profile Joined October 2010
United States126 Posts
March 07 2011 23:47 GMT
#131
Thank god. I was getting so tired of all the maps Blizz was making, maybe laddering will be fun again!
corpsepose
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1678 Posts
March 07 2011 23:48 GMT
#132
FUCK YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
http://www.twitch.tv/corpsep0se
Jayrod
Profile Joined August 2010
1820 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-07 23:49:42
March 07 2011 23:48 GMT
#133
On March 08 2011 08:35 Starshaped wrote:
Show nested quote +

If you can't beat a macro player on a macro map, then you're not doing enough. I have seen micro/strategy players like you beat macro players on macro maps several times already. It's not the map, it's you.


Look, you clearly don't understand how SC2 works. The maps like Steppes and Blistering etc. allowed for EQUAL FOOTING for both types of players, that is the creative/strategic/micro player and the macro or 'unstrategic' player. But these new maps FAVOUR MACROERS and that is not balanced. Can creative micro strategists beat macroers on new maps? Yes, but in order to do so they have to outplay them by a lot!

Its funny how unbelievably correct you are and how unbelievably unlikely it is for anyone to agree with you. I think Crevasse is the closest of the GSL maps listed in the OP to strike a balance between strategy based vs. macro based gameplay.
tainted muffin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States158 Posts
March 07 2011 23:51 GMT
#134
Too bad no one but terran will thumbs up the aggressive maps ):
GP
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1056 Posts
March 07 2011 23:51 GMT
#135
Yes! Now if only Shakuras would get put back in the pool.
MuTT
Profile Joined July 2010
United States398 Posts
March 07 2011 23:52 GMT
#136
how about give us 6 vetos so we can choose exactly what type of map we want to play?
MC's strength: confidence weakness: over confidence
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
March 07 2011 23:52 GMT
#137
On March 08 2011 07:41 Zelniq wrote:
yes.
YES
YES!!!!!!

YYEESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yay, good news.
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
March 07 2011 23:53 GMT
#138
On March 08 2011 08:38 Qwantz wrote:
They shouldn't remove Metalopolis, and there are some new maps that suck (Typhon / Backwater / Slag Pits, specially this last one) I think more like:

Aggresive maps:
- Xel'Naga Caverns
- Scrap Station
- ??? (GSL Crossfire would be cool)

Intermediate maps:
- Metalopolis
- The Shattered Temple
- Backwater Gultch/Slag Pits

Macro maps:
- Crevasse
- Terminus RE
- Tal'Darim Altar


By what logic is Crossfire an aggro map? Blizzard said that close rush positions are imba on 2-player maps (agree) but acceptable as possible spawns on 4-player maps (Can kind of see the logic, but disagree)

Thus, the rush maps are 4-player maps with close spawns: Slag, Backwater, and Shattered. This means Metal and Delta are likely to get removed. They fit the same niche as Slag and Backwater, are older, and one of them is really unpopular among all skill levels.

The macro maps are the GSL maps. Duh. The intermediate maps are thus Xel'Naga, Scrap, and Typhon.

This means that if you downvote Slag, Backwater, and Typhon, 5 of the remaining 6 maps are in the GSL, and Shattered Temple is in MLG (with close spawns disabled). That makes the ladder for for tournament practice. With Slag, Backwater, and Typhon downvoted, there is a 1-in-6 chance you will roll a map with a 1-in-3 chance of spawns that aren't in a tournament.

In other words, on the new map pool, with proper downvoting, there's a 94%* percent chance you will roll a map and set on spawn positions used by MLG or the GSL, with only Shattered Temple on close spawns being useless for tournament practice.

*Assuming I'm good at math. 5/6 chance of good map, + 2/3rds of 1/6th chance of Shattered Temple on non-close spawns
waffleduck
Profile Joined August 2010
125 Posts
March 07 2011 23:54 GMT
#139
On March 08 2011 08:48 Jayrod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2011 08:35 Starshaped wrote:

If you can't beat a macro player on a macro map, then you're not doing enough. I have seen micro/strategy players like you beat macro players on macro maps several times already. It's not the map, it's you.


Look, you clearly don't understand how SC2 works. The maps like Steppes and Blistering etc. allowed for EQUAL FOOTING for both types of players, that is the creative/strategic/micro player and the macro or 'unstrategic' player. But these new maps FAVOUR MACROERS and that is not balanced. Can creative micro strategists beat macroers on new maps? Yes, but in order to do so they have to outplay them by a lot!

Its funny how unbelievably correct you are and how unbelievably unlikely it is for anyone to agree with you. I think Crevasse is the closest of the GSL maps listed in the OP to strike a balance between strategy based vs. macro based gameplay.


You're getting trolled bro.
doihy
Profile Joined August 2010
668 Posts
March 07 2011 23:54 GMT
#140
Ok Blizzard, now give us cross server play and lan and you have a winner.
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 22 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
RSL Revival
10:00
Season 5: Group D
Cure vs Zoun
Clem vs Lambo
Tasteless972
IntoTheiNu 473
Ryung 307
IndyStarCraft 86
Rex48
LiquipediaDiscussion
Sparkling Tuna Cup
10:00
Weekly #131 (TLMC 22 Edition)
MiniZergUA vs ExostrikerLIVE!
Classic vs TBD
CranKy Ducklings60
CranKy Ducklings SOOP8
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Tasteless 1013
Ryung 307
IndyStarCraft 86
Rex 49
Railgan 25
StarCraft: Brood War
BeSt 533
Hyuk 307
ZerO 275
sorry 104
Last 91
Mind 86
Shine 86
Pusan 72
Movie 68
Nal_rA 51
[ Show more ]
Backho 45
zelot 39
910 29
Shinee 22
Liquid`Ret 19
yabsab 18
Noble 9
ajuk12(nOOB) 2
Dota 2
Gorgc4204
monkeys_forever168
XcaliburYe104
Counter-Strike
x6flipin45
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor20
Other Games
gofns16266
singsing1558
B2W.Neo541
DeMusliM114
KnowMe108
ZerO(Twitch)18
MindelVK13
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL34491
Other Games
gamesdonequick2457
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 26
• Adnapsc2 16
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1291
• TFBlade1092
Other Games
• WagamamaTV210
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Invitational
1h 31m
ByuN vs Rogue
Solar vs Ryung
Zoun vs Percival
Cure vs SHIN
BSL
8h 31m
Dewalt vs DragOn
Aether vs Jimin
GSL
21h 31m
Afreeca Starleague
23h 31m
Soma vs Leta
Wardi Open
1d 1h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 5h
OSC
1d 13h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 23h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 23h
Light vs Flash
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
BSL
6 days
GSL
6 days
Cure vs TBD
TBD vs Maru
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W6
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2

Upcoming

YSL S3
Escore Tournament S2: W7
Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026: Closed Qualifier
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.