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Base Camera Inject. Queen melt down, SOLVED - Page 3

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MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-07 04:58:27
March 07 2011 04:56 GMT
#41


edit: omgwtfvideoquality...

Sorry about that. I'll try to get a better version up. You can also watch on Justin:
http://www.justin.tv/mrbittertv/b/281040240
ChefStarCraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada350 Posts
March 07 2011 04:56 GMT
#42
On March 07 2011 13:49 Goobus wrote:
Here's how you do it:

1) Go to the Hotkeys tab, and set "Follow Current Selection" to something.
2) Press "Follow Current Selection" hotkey (It's a toggle)
3) Select queens
4) Press V (or whatever hotkey you use for it)
5) Hold shift and spam backspace+click
6) Turn off "Follow Current Selection" (press hotkey)

This method means that you will no longer cycle through your hatcheries without queens at them.


Thank you, I have added this to my first post, with minor tweaking (wasnt correct)
Why don't we see who is the wizard and play some one on one, I think you'll find me sympathetic to ya when I've won, It seems you've got the brawn to beat me if this was all it takes, But I've got skills to pay the bills and punish each of your mistakes.
ChefStarCraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada350 Posts
March 07 2011 05:02 GMT
#43
On March 07 2011 13:56 MrBitter wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0RLKroMJrc

edit: omgwtfvideoquality...

Sorry about that. I'll try to get a better version up. You can also watch on Justin:
http://www.justin.tv/mrbittertv/b/281040240


Awesome job ! as always : ) thank you so much for this video
Why don't we see who is the wizard and play some one on one, I think you'll find me sympathetic to ya when I've won, It seems you've got the brawn to beat me if this was all it takes, But I've got skills to pay the bills and punish each of your mistakes.
WhyNoManner
Profile Joined March 2011
13 Posts
March 07 2011 05:05 GMT
#44
On March 07 2011 13:56 MrBitter wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0RLKroMJrc

edit: omgwtfvideoquality...

Sorry about that. I'll try to get a better version up. You can also watch on Justin:
http://www.justin.tv/mrbittertv/b/281040240



awesome video. Kinda makes me dizzy the way it smoothly pans toward the queen, but this now looks like the ultimate way to inject, its got the control of the 5/6/7/8/ in terms of no wandering queens but the speed and hotkey preservation of the backspace method.

heh well that opens up 5-6 hotkeys for me to be utilising every game.

Thanks Bitter and big thanks to chef for working this one out.
Humbled by Dirt
nitdkim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1264 Posts
March 07 2011 05:07 GMT
#45
very nice but I play random :O and I'm so used to 44 v 55 v 66 v 77 v :[
PM me if you want random korean images translated.
Motat
Profile Joined November 2010
315 Posts
March 07 2011 05:12 GMT
#46
On March 07 2011 13:11 Chill wrote:
Is larva injecting this difficult that people are modifying hotkeys and coming up with complex systems to do it?


People are just trying to find a more efficient way to inject as a zerg

Compared to the other races it takes alot more time
as terran lets say you have 2 OCs on 5 all you do is 5 shift-e click click
same for toss

but for zerg you have to go to each individual queen and click each individual hatchery. So yes its is difficult mid battle.
PM me for coaching. I'm a mid masters zerg player.
MuTT
Profile Joined July 2010
United States398 Posts
March 07 2011 05:12 GMT
#47
very clever man gj
MC's strength: confidence weakness: over confidence
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
March 07 2011 05:13 GMT
#48
Just watched the video. Thanks Chef and Mr.Bitter. Now if only they made Queens generate 25 energy during an inject instead of 24. Or am I just imagining things?
JoeSchmoe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2058 Posts
March 07 2011 05:13 GMT
#49
wow this is actually pretty huge... good stuff
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
March 07 2011 05:13 GMT
#50
On March 07 2011 13:56 ChefStarCraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2011 13:49 Goobus wrote:
Here's how you do it:

1) Go to the Hotkeys tab, and set "Follow Current Selection" to something.
2) Press "Follow Current Selection" hotkey (It's a toggle)
3) Select queens
4) Press V (or whatever hotkey you use for it)
5) Hold shift and spam backspace+click
6) Turn off "Follow Current Selection" (press hotkey)

This method means that you will no longer cycle through your hatcheries without queens at them.


Thank you, I have added this to my first post, with minor tweaking (wasnt correct)

Not sure why you think what he wrote there isn't correct. When you press the "Follow Current Selection" hotkey really doesn't matter, although it makes more sense to do it after you select the queen but before you press larva inject and hold down the shift key.

Interesting method though, but I think it was faster for me to just pay attention to hatcheries that don't have a queen next to them. Or to make sure that all my hatcheries have queens.
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-07 05:21:58
March 07 2011 05:16 GMT
#51
On March 07 2011 13:11 Chill wrote:
Is larva injecting this difficult that people are modifying hotkeys and coming up with complex systems to do it?


Why shouldn't they? The tools are provided by Blizzard, in the game's options, specifically for making tasks in the game easier to execute by creating more comfortable hotkey setups.

The onus is on you to share with us why players shouldn't be experimenting with the provided options to solve problems that occur while playing the game.
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
ChefStarCraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada350 Posts
March 07 2011 05:16 GMT
#52
On March 07 2011 14:13 garbanzo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2011 13:56 ChefStarCraft wrote:
On March 07 2011 13:49 Goobus wrote:
Here's how you do it:

1) Go to the Hotkeys tab, and set "Follow Current Selection" to something.
2) Press "Follow Current Selection" hotkey (It's a toggle)
3) Select queens
4) Press V (or whatever hotkey you use for it)
5) Hold shift and spam backspace+click
6) Turn off "Follow Current Selection" (press hotkey)

This method means that you will no longer cycle through your hatcheries without queens at them.


Thank you, I have added this to my first post, with minor tweaking (wasnt correct)

Not sure why you think what he wrote there isn't correct. When you press the "Follow Current Selection" hotkey really doesn't matter, although it makes more sense to do it after you select the queen but before you press larva inject and hold down the shift key.

Interesting method though, but I think it was faster for me to just pay attention to hatcheries that don't have a queen next to them. Or to make sure that all my hatcheries have queens.



I see, i guess it dosent matter when its selected. Apologies,
I still use base camera, to cycle in between hatcheries, I just use this new method when i inject them.
Why don't we see who is the wizard and play some one on one, I think you'll find me sympathetic to ya when I've won, It seems you've got the brawn to beat me if this was all it takes, But I've got skills to pay the bills and punish each of your mistakes.
Kambing
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1176 Posts
March 07 2011 05:17 GMT
#53
Good find!
Kavtor
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada7 Posts
March 07 2011 05:18 GMT
#54

6) Turn off "Follow Current Selection" (press hotkey)


Actually, unless I'm missing something, the camera follow automatically disengages if you pan away, so you don't need to turn it off.
ChefStarCraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada350 Posts
March 07 2011 05:19 GMT
#55
On March 07 2011 14:18 Kavtor wrote:
Show nested quote +

6) Turn off "Follow Current Selection" (press hotkey)


Actually, unless I'm missing something, the camera follow automatically disengages if you pan away, so you don't need to turn it off.



Thank you for clearing this up i wasn't positive on that, and dint want to put anything misleading.
Why don't we see who is the wizard and play some one on one, I think you'll find me sympathetic to ya when I've won, It seems you've got the brawn to beat me if this was all it takes, But I've got skills to pay the bills and punish each of your mistakes.
apalemorning
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada509 Posts
March 07 2011 05:20 GMT
#56
On March 07 2011 13:11 Chill wrote:
Is larva injecting this difficult that people are modifying hotkeys and coming up with complex systems to do it?

most people didnt play broodwar, chill.
immortal/roach is pretty good against stalkers
dvide
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom287 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-07 05:29:07
March 07 2011 05:25 GMT
#57
On March 07 2011 13:56 MrBitter wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0RLKroMJrc

edit: omgwtfvideoquality...

Sorry about that. I'll try to get a better version up. You can also watch on Justin:
http://www.justin.tv/mrbittertv/b/281040240

You could bind W to follow current selection and shift+W to base camera, since you're holding shift anyway when cycling. This will save you from having to use the tilde key. So this will be 4, v, w, hold shift, w, click, w, click, etc.

I personally use E for inject and shift+E to cycle hatches, so I've bound shift+W to "center on current selection". It does the same thing but you hold it instead of it being a toggle. So for me I'm going to be holding shift+w and tapping e+click to inject. So 4, e, hold shift+w, e, click, e, click, etc. I don't want to use up W because I do like it when I'm playing protoss.
skp
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada134 Posts
March 07 2011 05:25 GMT
#58
This is a cool trick and would definitely be useful for players that use the shift+base camera inject method. Thanks
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-07 05:36:20
March 07 2011 05:30 GMT
#59
On March 07 2011 14:20 apalemorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2011 13:11 Chill wrote:
Is larva injecting this difficult that people are modifying hotkeys and coming up with complex systems to do it?

most people didnt play broodwar, chill.

Hahaha that is so true. Broodwar players will probably look at this thread and be like, "wait, SC2 is so easy as it is, do people really have problems with that?" But I think every little applicable trick can help if it can reduce the probability of catastrophic failure! Great thread ChefSC, and great video MrBitter!
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
warshop
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada490 Posts
March 07 2011 05:31 GMT
#60
Wow, this looks pretty effective I must say.
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