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On April 06 2011 03:01 SC2-Dethklok wrote:
I like the camera hotkeys! I just set mine up in unit tester to get the feel for it. What I came up with was setting my create location to crtl + F1-F8 and the recall location simply f1-f8 then I reset select idle worker to f9 and changed inject larva from V to ` I set all of my hatchs to 4 and all of my queens to 5 so now I just press 5 (to select all queens) then f1 ` click hatch f2 ` click hatch ect. I like it a lot more than individually binding queens to 6 7 8 and double tapping 6 7 8 to move around the map and inject. Also being able to hotkey the enemy base with the camera hotkeys is nice that or the xelnaga towers makes scouting and moving so much faster :D
good man. finally someone who understands the advantage of using camera locs.
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I have been using qwerty for awhile now, and I like it quite a bit. W Is still base camera and E is still inject. I will tap 4(all queens) e+shift(not shift+e), I will then hold shift and press q-y( hatchery camera)
and inject. This works great, I have even added a few extra camera locations so I can save them for creep spreading.
I decided to keep W because it made it that much easier and faster to create the camera locations.
Q Is center on current selection still. I will be experimenting with new creep spreading ideas that branch off from this camera q-y idea. You will be able to press all these buttons in a row to inject and spread creep. As one cycle.
This has its pros too, you can manually go to each hatch instead of waiting for it in the cycle.
It will take some time to get used to this new style, but I think its pretty damn good.
I may change it so Alt+Shift+Q-Y are another set of camera hotkeys to Jump to creep locations.
While I still have Shift+Q-Y to jump to hatchery locations.
Edit: I have decided to keep using my mouse to spread creep with camera locations. There just aren't enough locations. The mouse is far easier to rinse and repeat locations for creep.
I use the camera locations for creep that have yet to be assigned. I have up to 6 letters as camera locations with 2 on my mouse. (Switching to this method has greatly improved my creep spread because I already spread with camera locations.(This helped me focus on it even more))
I changed D to a alternate for spreading creep tumors, on the queen as well.
I also changed select larva as a alternate to D for when i feel drone happy :D
Idle Worker is my scroll button on my mouse.
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golgotha how are u injecting so fast?! can you explain more clearly how to do your method?
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too bad this got patched out
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On April 06 2011 08:07 Highlight wrote:
golgotha how are u injecting so fast?! can you explain more clearly how to do your method?
You inject as fast as you can hit the buttons.
It just takes practice.
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yeah, did this get patched out?
i can't seem to get it to work, even after watching video etc...
the base camera button seems to override the follow current selection..
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On April 06 2011 18:15 foo wrote:
yeah, did this get patched out?
i can't seem to get it to work, even after watching video etc...
the base camera button seems to override the follow current selection..
Yes It has been patched, sorry to say.
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it hasnt been patched I was doing it yesterday. You cant hold V for inject while pressing the camera location hot keys that wont work but if you select all of your queens and then press one of your camera location keys your camera will jump to that location and your queens will still be selected. So what you do is press the hot key for all of your queens then press the camera location you want to go to then V for inject and click the hatch then press your next camera location key followed by V and click hatch your queens will be selected the whole time your using your camera keys to move around the map. This method eliminates 1 button press over hot keying individual hatcheries or individual queens.
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Is this patched or not? Can't seem to reproduce?
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I've been using the backspace method simply because I'm too lazy to hotkey each queen seperately. Seems that the seperate queen hotkey is the most commonly used method by pro zergs I've watched. Takes a bit more control but better in the long run.
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On April 07 2011 00:29 SC2-Dethklok wrote:
it hasnt been patched I was doing it yesterday. You cant hold V for inject while pressing the camera location hot keys that wont work but if you select all of your queens and then press one of your camera location keys your camera will jump to that location and your queens will still be selected. So what you do is press the hot key for all of your queens then press the camera location you want to go to then V for inject and click the hatch then press your next camera location key followed by V and click hatch your queens will be selected the whole time your using your camera keys to move around the map. This method eliminates 1 button press over hot keying individual hatcheries or individual queens.
In case you haven't noticed, it has been, what you are explaining is the method came up with on previous pages this person was asking about my OP method. Yes these are 2 different things.
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On April 06 2011 05:37 Golgotha wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2011 03:01 SC2-Dethklok wrote:
I like the camera hotkeys! I just set mine up in unit tester to get the feel for it. What I came up with was setting my create location to crtl + F1-F8 and the recall location simply f1-f8 then I reset select idle worker to f9 and changed inject larva from V to ` I set all of my hatchs to 4 and all of my queens to 5 so now I just press 5 (to select all queens) then f1 ` click hatch f2 ` click hatch ect. I like it a lot more than individually binding queens to 6 7 8 and double tapping 6 7 8 to move around the map and inject. Also being able to hotkey the enemy base with the camera hotkeys is nice that or the xelnaga towers makes scouting and moving so much faster :D good man. finally someone who understands the advantage of using camera locs.
Honestly I feel like this is the best overall way to do it. It has the control and precision of separate queen hotkeys, but the speed of the base camera method.
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On April 07 2011 06:45 Cofo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2011 05:37 Golgotha wrote:On April 06 2011 03:01 SC2-Dethklok wrote:
I like the camera hotkeys! I just set mine up in unit tester to get the feel for it. What I came up with was setting my create location to crtl + F1-F8 and the recall location simply f1-f8 then I reset select idle worker to f9 and changed inject larva from V to ` I set all of my hatchs to 4 and all of my queens to 5 so now I just press 5 (to select all queens) then f1 ` click hatch f2 ` click hatch ect. I like it a lot more than individually binding queens to 6 7 8 and double tapping 6 7 8 to move around the map and inject. Also being able to hotkey the enemy base with the camera hotkeys is nice that or the xelnaga towers makes scouting and moving so much faster :D good man. finally someone who understands the advantage of using camera locs. Honestly I feel like this is the best overall way to do it. It has the control and precision of separate queen hotkeys, but the speed of the base camera method.
I would prefer this way then Shift+Q-Y as jump to locations and Ctrl+Q-Y as create location.
But, my hands aren't the biggest. This was I can perform the same thing, while still being able to base camera inject.
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I just tried using Shift-z to shift-v as a set of jump to hotkeys, with the create locations set as alt-1 to alt-4. I must say that this configuration feels very good, as I don't have to reposition my hand. I've previously tried using the F1 to F4 keys for injecting, but it felt awkward to set the locations, so I never really got used to it.
One thing that I like is to have one or two macro hatches next to either my main or natural, because I like to have most of my units coming out from the same area. The problem is, using the town centre hotkey it can be difficult as you'll skip between distant bases without queens and these macro hatches, so you had to pay attention. With your follow unit trick, it was simplified though there was a bit of delay as the camera moved around and 2 very close hatches could sometimes cause problems. With the camera hotkey method, you have more control over where your camera goes when you inject, with the caveat that you have to set up your hotkey.
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I'm reverting back to the back space method because its so much easier and simplified, this is good but it takes really quick hands allot of attention to set up. I will still keep Shift+E-Y as cameras for up to 4 hatcheries or creep spreading.
I can just go from W(base camera) to Shift + E-Y pretty easily to spread creep.
Shift+Q Is always my main hatchery.
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On March 07 2011 12:40 err wrote:
Hot damn! Pack it up boys! Zerg can finally compete!
this is a very small change, how is this a change that will affect anything more than a minor increse in conveinence?
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On April 07 2011 10:15 Slago wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2011 12:40 err wrote:
Hot damn! Pack it up boys! Zerg can finally compete! this is a very small change, how is this a change that will affect anything more than a minor increse in conveinence?
This has been patched, so yeah. I think he was just exaggerating his excitement.
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I don't want to mod my hotkey profile b/c I'd like to eventually end up playing in LAN tournaments.
Even though I don't want to mod my hotkeys, I do want to use this method. So I am learning on a standard grid setup right now.
When I practiced the technique, I followed the steps on the 1st post (1. toggle follow current selection, 2. queen hotkey, 3. inject , 4. hold shift + inject, 5. base cam cycle through other hatches)
The problem comes in when I try to cycle through my bases. The follow current selection option doesn't stay toggled when I press backspace to go to another hatch. So I don't get the automatic snap movement when I reach a hatch that doesn't have a queen.
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On April 06 2011 03:01 SC2-Dethklok wrote:
I like the camera hotkeys! I just set mine up in unit tester to get the feel for it. What I came up with was setting my create location to crtl + F1-F8 and the recall location simply f1-f8 then I reset select idle worker to f9 and changed inject larva from V to ` I set all of my hatchs to 4 and all of my queens to 5 so now I just press 5 (to select all queens) then f1 ` click hatch f2 ` click hatch ect. I like it a lot more than individually binding queens to 6 7 8 and double tapping 6 7 8 to move around the map and inject. Also being able to hotkey the enemy base with the camera hotkeys is nice that or the xelnaga towers makes scouting and moving so much faster :D
I like this method too, it works great up to 4 queens, which is the most I ever make for injecting.
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You might want to edit your OP to say this method has actually been patched.. Kind of misleading..
Disappointed zerg T.T
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