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VzO
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada23 Posts
March 05 2011 22:16 GMT
#121
SWEEEET time to do this in PvP
Penecks
Profile Joined August 2010
United States600 Posts
March 05 2011 22:22 GMT
#122
Why do people keep saying to put something there, obviously if they could blink there they can see that spot, so whatever would be "blocking" the blink can be shot at since there is vision to it.
straight poppin
FenneK
Profile Joined November 2010
France1231 Posts
March 05 2011 22:32 GMT
#123
Well, guess they'll have to remove it.
good luck have batman
BetterFasterStronger
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States604 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-05 22:34:19
March 05 2011 22:34 GMT
#124
Yeah remove this! It rewards creativity. Thats dumb!
I don't get why this needs to be removed?
Top 200 as Protoss - Switched to Terran. 0-30 against EGiNcontroL... God damnet
Kfcnoob
Profile Joined January 2011
United States296 Posts
March 05 2011 22:36 GMT
#125
anyone email this to bliz?
And Artosis sayeth "the one who kills many, but loses few, comes out ahead."
monitor
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2409 Posts
March 05 2011 22:38 GMT
#126
On March 06 2011 07:34 BetterFasterStronger wrote:
Yeah remove this! It rewards creativity. Thats dumb!
I don't get why this needs to be removed?


Is blinking into the main because of a positional imbalance creativity?
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PokePill
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1048 Posts
March 05 2011 22:39 GMT
#127
On March 06 2011 07:34 BetterFasterStronger wrote:
Yeah remove this! It rewards creativity. Thats dumb!
I don't get why this needs to be removed?


Because it won't be used for creativity, it would be used for 1 base all ins.
branflakes14
Profile Joined July 2010
2082 Posts
March 05 2011 22:53 GMT
#128
On March 06 2011 07:39 PokePill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2011 07:34 BetterFasterStronger wrote:
Yeah remove this! It rewards creativity. Thats dumb!
I don't get why this needs to be removed?


Because it won't be used for creativity, it would be used for 1 base all ins.


A 1 base all in can't be creative? And don't forget that a Council + Blink isn't cheap and takes about 2 minutes in total if Chrono Boosted 100%. That combined with him making nothing but Stalkers should be more than enough notice for you to pump out Immortals/Speedlings/Roaches/Marauders or whatever you like.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
March 05 2011 22:57 GMT
#129
On March 06 2011 06:35 Wolf wrote:
Ruining PvP even more T_T


How? Blink Stalkers aren't exactly ruling PvP. At the moment, it seems to be either 4gate or fast Colossus, with other builds just there for flavour.

I don't reckon this will affect many games at all. Of course, it is bad that the map is not symmetrical. But it isn't that big a deal. Blizzard will fix it.
Retgery
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1229 Posts
March 06 2011 00:08 GMT
#130
Well nothing to do now but abuse this and raise my rank a little. Thank you good sir.
Fall down 7 times, stand up 8.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
March 06 2011 00:26 GMT
#131
The issue isn't that blinking into a base is imba-- though maybe it is... the issue is you can't blink into every base. That's extremely seriously imbalanced. It means that because the map isn't perfectly symmetrical, you could have a PvP where one protoss player has geographical access to this while the other doesn't, and that's a HUGE issue. I'm sure this will be addressed in a timely fashion by Blizzard.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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MLG_Lee
Profile Joined July 2010
279 Posts
March 06 2011 00:38 GMT
#132
Thanks for posting this.
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Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
March 06 2011 00:38 GMT
#133
On March 06 2011 07:34 BetterFasterStronger wrote:
Yeah remove this! It rewards creativity. Thats dumb!
I don't get why this needs to be removed?


The main issue is the positional imbalance. 3 of the bases are vulnerable to blink stalkers while the 3oclock base isnt. The main issue, then, is the positional imbalance.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
March 06 2011 00:43 GMT
#134
This reminds me of that old trick on Lost Temple where you could blink to the other close-air base (back when stalkers could blink over unpassable terrain). Those were the days...
emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-06 00:53:54
March 06 2011 00:51 GMT
#135
On March 05 2011 23:44 kickinhead wrote:
OMG - Blizzard really can't make balanced Maps at all, this is really very annoying... Blinkstalkers blinking in your base without Obs or halluzinated phoenix is indeed a big problem, especially with the positional imbalances, so that even in a mirrormatch, things get out of balance. -.-°


well technically there is nothing wrong about this.

You get vision of the high ground in the middle with one unit, blink up with another, then blink in to the main. Doing it with the Xel'naga tower is no different.....

They should probably fix the map so you can't get vision up to the middle high ground from the nearby main or that you can get into every main using the trick, but so long as you can get vision..... its not a bug and not broken..... its working as intended.

I thought I was gonna be shown getting to the high ground without any vision, but thats not the case. You could do similar tricks on Kulas Ravine with the centre tower allowing you to blink up to the normally rock blocked high grounds and take the other towers.
When there is nothing left to lose but your dignity, it is already gone.
Azide
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada566 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-06 02:32:31
March 06 2011 02:28 GMT
#136
edit: nvm
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reneg
Profile Joined September 2010
United States859 Posts
March 06 2011 04:09 GMT
#137
nice find, thanks for posting this.

it's important we get this out as much as possible so hopefully blizz fixes it...
moose...indian
chinchillas
Profile Joined February 2011
United States6 Posts
March 06 2011 05:19 GMT
#138
i dont play protoss but thats a nice find!
SC2Streams.net
manicshock
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada741 Posts
March 06 2011 05:24 GMT
#139
The thing with cliffs is that was entirely intentional. This is just abuse of sight + blink and I'm betting they'll fix it shortly.
Never argue with an idiot. They will just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Arco
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2090 Posts
March 06 2011 05:25 GMT
#140
Nice find, but definitely will be removed, just like when Tyler famously abused the Kulas blink bug.
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