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DaBears57
United States300 Posts
On February 23 2011 08:08 Xeris wrote: We want to try to create as even a playing field as possible for teams. So is it an individual league or team league? OK, I obviously know the answer but this makes no sense. | ||
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OCsurfeR
United States195 Posts
On February 25 2011 05:18 Alizee- wrote: Chill's questions seem to be consistently unique and necessary. I feel like a lot of what is asked even the people behind the scenes don't have exactly mapped out yet. Last time I checked there isn't really much to define our demographic. I might dress a lot better than a highschooler who wears hoodies, but the dress is dictated by how serious you want to be. Korean commentators wear a shirt and tie, there's really no reason to promote t-shirt wearing unless you want to be taken anything other than serious. If you wanna be an amateur or just say its a video game lolol, then never expect things to grow. You're not gonna receive sarcasm for being too professional. The worst that happens is "oh wow that guy dresses really sharp, he exudes a very professional persona, I like the way this is run, even if I dress more casually while viewing this event, I feel like they really want this to be big time." So I guess I would ask is true, real world professionalism going to be prevalent or is it going to be the pseudo-professionalism where it defaults back to being a "video game" so its ok justification? Really good feedback, though I do think suits and ties are a bit much for this today. | ||
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paksam
143 Posts
On February 25 2011 05:48 Lobo2me wrote: You seem to have repeated what I wrote, and then asked the same thing :p =P I didn't realize sorry, But I see that I essentially put your questions into one. But I at least answered your last question I think. | ||
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michaelthe
United States359 Posts
And Ill simply agree with DaBears, if this is a individual league, there is no need to have limits based on teams. Lets say this does create a boom in SC2 esports in the US/West. Sponsored teams could easily exceed 5 skilled players, basically every pro team in Korea has more than 5 players. | ||
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Raelcun
United States3747 Posts
1) Stop talking until you put Xeris, Incontrol, and Russel in the same room. These three guys keep contradicting each other so much it is stupid. The amount of contrary information out there from these sources including between the State of the Game podcast (<3 JP) and the official thread is alarming. This alone takes away a lot of confidence from many people in the validity of your league. 2) Change this: The quality of GSL's high quality paid stream is 650 kb/sec. Our free stream is going to be at 800 kb/sec, our paid stream will be 3 megabit / sec. We're offering much better stream quality than any other tournament can give you! Having the paid stream be only a 3 megabit stream means the vast majority of EU viewers wont be able to watch it seeing as it is also on JTV. If you set your stream bitrate too high all you are doing is limiting the number of viewers who can watch you. The EU market still has a hard time watching on JTV especially on the higher quality higher bitrate streams. Even though JTV provides quality scaling having the 3mbit as your base is not a good idea if you're going to go that high provide a second high quality stream option as well. This will also allow for a backup stream in case the primary one has any issues. 3) Stop responding sarcastically to money questions Replies like "We're sponsored by pennies we picked up in the various ponds and fountains around the world. The money is there and ready to be given out to some amazing players!" come off as amazingly unprofessional. Instead try saying that the sponsors for this amazing league are still working with us and do not wish to be named at the current time. None the less I'm sure you will be excited once we are able to name them as they are some big companies in their industry. This simple change in attitude gives a lot of confidence to your readers because it is much more professional. GSL didn't name their sponsors straight off the bat either but they also did not respond sarcastically to every question about it. In short be professional responding sarcastically again only turns people off and brings into question the validity of your league. 4) Be open with your league format There is a lot of criticism about your league format and you've yet to say that you're even willing to change it for the next season. Instead of defending your format to the death why not say that you're willing to look into improving the format as much as possible in season 2 and in the time in between. Once again just saying you are willing to do it gives much more confidence than the three of you lined up on the streets weapons drawn and saying NO WE LOVE OUR FORMAT! One major factor is find a way to include more open slots as more open qualification means less of a big deal about needing to be on a team and the team limits. As if you're good enough you can make it through on the open slots when there's more than just one then not having a team isn't as big of a deal. Yes they'd prefer to be invited in almost every instance but having every player who can't make it in through an invite competing over one open slot is kind of silly In conclusion I don't want to see your tournament fail as generally when a major tournament fails it turns off potential sponsors for everyone. So please look into upping your level of professionalism when you speak to the community. Currently your attitude towards PR seems to include way too much sarcasm and saying that we thought it was a good idea. | ||
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OCsurfeR
United States195 Posts
On February 25 2011 05:49 Chill wrote: Where are the NASL.tv offices? Who are these 7-10 people and what are their backgrounds specifically with Starcraft? The NASL.tv offices are in Southern California, but I'm not going to elaborate on that just yet. I figured you'd want to drill down to the "who is in our crew" question but I don't think it's appropriate yet to give you bios on our entire staff. That day will come, but it's a bit early yet. Again, great questions Chill, keep 'em coming. I can't promise answers to all of them, in fact I promise that some won't be answered yet, but I'll do my best. | ||
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Al Bundy
7257 Posts
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michaelthe
United States359 Posts
On February 25 2011 05:56 iCCup.Raelcun wrote: 1) Stop talking until you put Xeris, Incontrol, and Russel in the same room. These three guys keep contradicting each other so much it is stupid. The amount of contrary information out there from these sources including between the State of the Game podcast (<3 JP) and the official thread is alarming. This alone takes away a lot of confidence from many people in the validity of your league. 2) Change this: The quality of GSL's high quality paid stream is 650 kb/sec. Our free stream is going to be at 800 kb/sec, our paid stream will be 3 megabit / sec. We're offering much better stream quality than any other tournament can give you! Having the paid stream be only a 3 megabit stream means the vast majority of EU viewers wont be able to watch it seeing as it is also on JTV. If you set your stream bitrate too high all you are doing is limiting the number of viewers who can watch you. The EU market still has a hard time watching on JTV especially on the higher quality higher bitrate streams. Even though JTV provides quality scaling having the 3mbit as your base is not a good idea if you're going to go that high provide a second high quality stream option as well. This will also allow for a backup stream in case the primary one has any issues. 3) Stop responding sarcastically to money questions Replies like "We're sponsored by pennies we picked up in the various ponds and fountains around the world. The money is there and ready to be given out to some amazing players!" come off as amazingly unprofessional. Instead try saying that the sponsors for this amazing league are still working with us and do not wish to be named at the current time. None the less I'm sure you will be excited once we are able to name them as they are some big companies in their industry. This simple change in attitude gives a lot of confidence to your readers because it is much more professional. GSL didn't name their sponsors straight off the bat either but they also did not respond sarcastically to every question about it. In short be professional responding sarcastically again only turns people off and brings into question the validity of your league. 4) Be open with your league format There is a lot of criticism about your league format and you've yet to say that you're even willing to change it for the next season. Instead of defending your format to the death why not say that you're willing to look into improving the format as much as possible in season 2 and in the time in between. Once again just saying you are willing to do it gives much more confidence than the three of you lined up on the streets weapons drawn and saying NO WE LOVE OUR FORMAT! One major factor is find a way to include more open slots as more open qualification means less of a big deal about needing to be on a team and the team limits. As if you're good enough you can make it through on the open slots when there's more than just one then not having a team isn't as big of a deal. Yes they'd prefer to be invited in almost every instance but having every player who can't make it in through an invite competing over one open slot is kind of silly In conclusion I don't want to see your tournament fail as generally when a major tournament fails it turns off potential sponsors for everyone. So please look into upping your level of professionalism when you speak to the community. Currently your attitude towards PR seems to include way too much sarcasm and saying that we thought it was a good idea. Well thought out. People are being hypercritical because they want the NASL to do well. It would be good to take some of the responses and seriously consider them! We all have the same goal for esports in the US/West. | ||
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Lobo2me
Norway1213 Posts
On February 25 2011 05:55 paksam wrote: =P I didn't realize sorry, But I see that I essentially put your questions into one. But I at least answered your last question I think. I know that the winner of the open will be in the playoffs (which I wrote), but will the winner be automatically added to the league for the next season? | ||
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ghostsquall
United States187 Posts
Basically, my point is this. I was hyped for NASL. I really was. It seemed like one of the greatest things to happen to Starcraft. But the more I hear about it, the less interest I have. They're trying to get this to be like a real sport? So people will take it seriously? Nobody. Ever. Will. We are nerds. People that aren't nerds DO NOT like starcraft. It's sad to say, but it's true. I don't feel like you guys are doing this to fuel the movement of esports in the west. I feel like you're doing it to secure a few extra bucks in your pocket and to secure your "spot"(which you all feel entitled to for some reason) as a pro-gamer. The whole "hey guys help us make esports big if you dont want nasl to be big obviously you're a bad person just be happy who cares if we're charging $30, who cares if qualifiers aren't open for everyone, blahblahblah" | ||
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Insomnia`
United Kingdom19 Posts
Surely I could just create my own team and add myself to it in order to compete? What is to stop people doing this? | ||
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michaelthe
United States359 Posts
On February 25 2011 06:05 Insomnia1305 wrote: What defines a starcraft 'team' to you guys? Surely I could just create my own team and add myself to it in order to compete? What is to stop people doing this? They posted on a previous page that they want a team with a website and sponsors. Of course, anyone can make a website and your mom can be your sponsor. I dont know if there are more details than that, answers arent being consolidated (due to volume) so Im not sure. | ||
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Pudge_172
United States1378 Posts
On February 25 2011 06:01 AlBundy wrote: I have a question to the Moderators and TL staff who read this thread; will the NASL folks get a shiny new icon next to their TL username? sorry if it has already been answered. I think they should and incontrol really needs a NASL one and an EG one. That way when he feels the need to be who he is, he can post under the EG banner and when he's being professional and responsible and answering a question for NASL, he can use that banner. Question Do you feel that you guys are too close to the situation and emotionally invested to handle the whining an criticism that you have received? I'm pretty sure you guys thought you would be welcomed into Baghdad with open arms(failed Iraq war reference there), however, you have stolen the thunder of a lot of wannabes and therefore have been met with many shoes being thrown at you(another Iraq reference). P.R. person is needed to handle this initial shit-storm and then you guys need to speak with one voice. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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paksam
143 Posts
On February 25 2011 06:04 Lobo2me wrote: I know that the winner of the open will be in the playoffs (which I wrote), but will the winner be automatically added to the league for the next season? oh true the answer to that is simply yes i think, iNcontrol said something about seeding from s1 to season 2 and I would assume all who make it to the playoffs will be guaranteed a seed in s2. sorry for the confusion. edit: new concern OCsurfeR if you know alot of information about NASL, please address the questions/issues posted by other members of TL. I would like to know how well NASL will represent the top 50 players in the world if you keep your current restrictions on qualifications of the NASL. I guess I just need a simple explanation on why you guys restrict the things you do, and in your opinion how does this effect NASL trying to represent the top 50 players in the world. I will be waiting on a response, thanks. | ||
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michaelthe
United States359 Posts
On February 25 2011 06:07 Pudge_172 wrote: I think they should and incontrol really needs a NASL one and an EG one. That way when he feels the need to be who he is, he can post under the EG banner and when he's being professional and responsible and answering a question for NASL, he can use that banner. Question Do you feel that you guys are too close to the situation and emotionally invested to handle the whining an criticism that you have received? I'm pretty sure you guys thought you would be welcomed into Baghdad with open arms(failed Iraq war reference there), however, you have stolen the thunder of a lot of wannabes and therefore have been met with many shoes being thrown at you(another Iraq reference). P.R. person is needed to handle this initial shit-storm and then you guys need to speak with one voice. Im a big fan of healthy criticism for the NASL, but you are worthless. Please stay out of this thread and dont come back. User was warned for this post | ||
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paksam
143 Posts
On February 25 2011 06:09 michaelthe wrote: Im a big fan of healthy criticism for the NASL, but you are worthless. Please stay out of this thread and dont come back. Agreed, joking about war is despicable; I hope all of TL agrees but that's really not being realistic. | ||
Chill
Calgary25979 Posts
On February 25 2011 06:01 AlBundy wrote: I have a question to the Moderators and TL staff who read this thread; will the NASL folks get a shiny new icon next to their TL username? sorry if it has already been answered. No, of course not. | ||
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
ehh, I think they should. IEM/GOM people do, makes them stand out ;p | ||
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tsularesque
Canada226 Posts
How are the divisions going to be formed? Is it going to be random, or like the GSL Group Selection where the highest seeds (maybe determined initially by votes on the website) select their groups and an opponent? | ||
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Pudge_172
United States1378 Posts
On February 25 2011 06:09 michaelthe wrote: Im a big fan of healthy criticism for the NASL, but you are worthless. Please stay out of this thread and dont come back. I'm back bitch. Deal with it. Anyways, I truly do think they are too close to the situation to handle the criticism well and respond to it in a professional way. I'm sure they've been working on this for quite some time(6 months maybe longer) and when you have that much effort invested into something and you think you've done a great job...... to have so many people shit on it has to be downright infuriating. | ||
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