EPTHow can the average person help? It seems as far as I can tell, this is a 3 man show (with investors behind the scenes).
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Chill
Calgary25993 Posts
How can the average person help? It seems as far as I can tell, this is a 3 man show (with investors behind the scenes). | ||
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DeckOneBell
United States526 Posts
On February 25 2011 05:20 cheesemaster wrote: If gretorp is accepted as a player in the tournament i will defenetly not take this tournament seriously, he is a sub par player at best who hasnt really even been in any tournaments that i can think of (or placed well at least) since the last MLG. What IS your standard for a good player then? Because since this tournament is almost certain to include more NA players than any other region, there will likely be worse players than Gretorp included. I don't like the team invite system, but your assertion is ridiculous. | ||
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Raelcun
United States3747 Posts
Are you actually listening to feedback because I can give you a laundry list of things to improve on now or before the 2nd season if you want this to actually succeed but it seems like most of the NASL people are too busy being defensive to listen to actual constructive criticism. | ||
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tsularesque
Canada226 Posts
On February 25 2011 05:26 DeckOneBell wrote: What IS your standard for a good player then? Because since this tournament is almost certain to include more NA players than any other region, there will likely be worse players than Gretorp included. I don't like the team invite system, but your assertion is ridiculous. I don't think this is the case. We don't have the amount of high-level tournaments that EU or KR have, and it's a lot more expensive to travel across NA to attend MLG or whatever. I think once we have a popular, large-scale tournament we'll be able to see the level of player calibre that exists here. There just isn't as much of an outlet yet. Disclaimer: I don't think Gretorp is a bad player. But I don't think we're going to have disappointing games where everyone looks to be an amateur compared to non-NA players. | ||
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MechaCthulhu
United States136 Posts
On February 25 2011 05:27 iCCup.Raelcun wrote: Question: Are you actually listening to feedback because I can give you a laundry list of things to improve on now or before the 2nd season if you want this to actually succeed but it seems like most of the NASL people are too busy being defensive to listen to actual constructive criticism. Yeah, they haven't announced any major changes in the two days since this thread started, therefore they're not listening to feedback. That's pretty logical. | ||
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Lobo2me
Norway1213 Posts
As I understand it, first season will be 50 invites of the best/most accomplished/popular players that apply to join, as long as there won't be more than 5 from a single team. There will be 5 groups of 10, where the 3 best from each group(15 total) move on to playoffs and joined by the winner of a 1024 man open tournament, and the 3 worst from each group will be out of the league. How will the 15 spots in the league be filled? Will those be 15 more invites judged by previous accomplishments and their application video? Will the winner of the open get a spot in the league? | ||
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multiversed
United States233 Posts
On February 25 2011 05:08 paksam wrote: I'm sorry if I offended you, but I feel like I need to respond because you have directly responded to me.I am simply telling you, that your definition of a community may be different (and you should explain yourself). I am sorry for saying what you said was untrue because now that I read your post again it is opinionated and obviously theres no right and wrong. But as someone who has joined the TL community recently, I never said that the respect they deserve has anything to do with me. But I think however if you actively try and sign up for TL (which clearly you have), you should try and follow the rules (and be somewhat courteous). you have not offended me at all, to think that you that you had offends me. I hope you don't feel like its not a personal attack on you because if you do, I apologize once again. I love TL and I am slowly seeing why there are so many rules. edit: forgot a pretty important "not" i'm using the definition of the word community. what definition are you using for the word community? i fear you are overlooking the fact that it is safe to assume that a large percentage of screddit posters also post on TL. this is getting awfully familiar(reddit)... i surely didn't mean to question your obvious authority over me. though i reckon the quality of my few post outweighs the value of a vast majority of your entire stock. funny how when we signed up has no bearing on the actual value of our posts or the level at which we are able to articulate ourselves. isn't it? but again, i submit. you have verbally rear naked choked me and my lifeless body has slumped to the dirty, dirty ground. i respect you. people are always looking for an argument, especially on the internet.  | ||
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Chill
Calgary25993 Posts
On February 25 2011 05:27 iCCup.Raelcun wrote: Question: Are you actually listening to feedback because I can give you a laundry list of things to improve on now or before the 2nd season if you want this to actually succeed but it seems like most of the NASL people are too busy being defensive to listen to actual constructive criticism. Post the list please. | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On February 25 2011 05:32 jaearess wrote: Yeah, they haven't announced any major changes in the two days since this thread started, therefore they're not listening to feedback. That's pretty logical. Which is interesting considering how inc always says he cannot understand how the extended series rule is still in play despite everyone hating it, yet everyone hates the team rule (don't give me that collusion thing, make them play first) and they seem like they refuse to budge. Hope that rule goes, it's trash. | ||
michaelthe
United States359 Posts
On February 25 2011 05:27 iCCup.Raelcun wrote: Question: Are you actually listening to feedback because I can give you a laundry list of things to improve on now or before the 2nd season if you want this to actually succeed but it seems like most of the NASL people are too busy being defensive to listen to actual constructive criticism. I am a little bit concerned that 2 out of 3 of the main people involved dont know anything about e-sports or SC2 and see it as nothing more than a business venture. Its great to have some people who know about the business side of things, but I sure hope they figure out the esports side as well. | ||
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Al Bundy
7257 Posts
These sponsored teams really should step up their game, move in California, get team houses and proclaim this State the "Mecca of NA esports". I don't know, it may not be the right solution, but I find it a bit silly, to say the least, that the fact that USA is a "big" country could be an hinderance. Actually I'd like to hear the Team managers ' stance about this. I would like to know their plans regarding this topic. In my opinion western esports might need this kind of long-term investment. | ||
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michaelthe
United States359 Posts
On February 25 2011 05:37 AlBundy wrote: So after reading the comments related to my previous post, I believe that now that there is a real NA league, it may be up to the pro Teams to make the next step towards western esports development. These sponsored teams really should step up their game, move in California, get team houses and proclaim this State the "Mecca of NA esports". I don't know, it may not be the right solution, but I find it a bit silly, to say the least, that the fact that USA is a "big" country could be an hinderance. Actually I'd like to hear the Team managers ' stance about this. I would like to know their plans regarding this topic. In my opinion western esports might need this kind of long-term investment. very premature for that. We have an idea for a tournament that hasnt proven anything yet. This isnt as established as the GSL. We all want the NASL to do well, but the fact is it hasnt proven itself yet. | ||
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paksam
143 Posts
On February 25 2011 05:33 Lobo2me wrote: Questions: As I understand it, first season will be 50 invites of the best/most accomplished/popular players that apply to join, as long as there won't be more than 5 from a single team. There will be 5 groups of 10, where the 3 best from each group(15 total) move on to playoffs and joined by the winner of a 1024 man open tournament, and the 3 worst from each group will be out of the league. How will the 15 spots in the league be filled? Will those be 15 more invites judged by previous accomplishments and their application video? Will the winner of the open get a spot in the league? I think the winner of the open they said was going to get the 16th spot in the final live tournament automatically, and any other participitation in this league is invite-only at least for season 1. This leads me to another question (sorta repeat but couldnt find an answer) Will the NASL always be invite-only except for 1 open tourney per season? | ||
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tsularesque
Canada226 Posts
On February 25 2011 05:36 michaelthe wrote: I am a little bit concerned that 2 out of 3 of the main people involved dont know anything about e-sports or SC2 and see it as nothing more than a business venture. Its great to have some people who know about the business side of things, but I sure hope they figure out the esports side as well. Isn't this a bit of a relief at the same time? Think of the HDH2 tournament. That's something that was supposed to happen six months ago and was planned by eSports people. There was no real ability to contact blizzard, to organize times, or to set up the operations part of it. Just community hype. For the NASL there are experienced people setting it up. The community feedback will be constant and that business side of it should understand what NEEDS to be changed. But right now they have a system organized and checked, and it's unlikely too much will shift until it's been stress-tested by the actual occurrence. | ||
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relyt
United States1073 Posts
On February 25 2011 05:36 michaelthe wrote: I am a little bit concerned that 2 out of 3 of the main people involved dont know anything about e-sports or SC2 and see it as nothing more than a business venture. Its great to have some people who know about the business side of things, but I sure hope they figure out the esports side as well. Do you know what a venture capitalist is? | ||
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Al Bundy
7257 Posts
On February 25 2011 05:38 michaelthe wrote: very premature for that. We have an idea for a tournament that hasnt proven anything yet. This isnt as established as the GSL. We all want the NASL to do well, but the fact is it hasnt proven itself yet. But teh NASL could very well be only the beginning. That kind of big step may be what the esports need in order to grow. That kind of centralization (I do'nt know if it's the right word) could definitely open doors, create opportunities, and gather more attention. | ||
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OCsurfeR
United States195 Posts
On February 25 2011 05:25 Chill wrote: Question: How can the average person help? It seems as far as I can tell, this is a 3 man show (with investors behind the scenes). It's more like 10-15 people plus some volunteers. At any given time when I walk into the NASL.tv offices there's about 7-10 people there with another few filing in and out as the day progresses. Obviously as we get closer to the start of the first season that will grow, and as we grow that number will grow. As for help, I've got a group of intern candidates that I need to filter through and knock it down to about half a dozen to do things like handle social media (FB/TW) write articles for each day's division matches, moderate chat channels, etc. I'm very tardy in getting this done, but I am making progress and should have it whittled down to 6-7 people before the season starts in April. I'm not going to use this as a recruitment post as it violates TL.net policies, but that's the answer to your question. | ||
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Lobo2me
Norway1213 Posts
On February 25 2011 05:41 paksam wrote: I think the winner of the open they said was going to get the 16th spot in the final live tournament automatically, and any other participitation in this league is invite-only at least for season 1. This leads me to another question (sorta repeat but couldnt find an answer) Will the NASL always be invite-only except for 1 open tourney per season? You seem to have repeated what I wrote, and then asked the same thing :p | ||
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Pudge_172
United States1378 Posts
Assume the first 3 seasons are super-duper successful and this concept is proven, would you guys convert it to more of a GSL-style tournament with games broadcast live in front of an audience OR would you stick with your concept as it has proven to work? Question 2 Where would you locate a league that was totally offline? I mentioned earlier how almost all of the Nascar teams are in North Carolina. Where in the states do you feel is a good location for producing an offline league and has a cost of living low enough to justify teams moving their players there? Question 3 How do I get involved considering I'm a Bronze league player and will most likely be Bronze league forever? | ||
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Chill
Calgary25993 Posts
On February 25 2011 05:43 OCsurfeR wrote: It's more like 10-15 people plus some volunteers. At any given time when I walk into the NASL.tv offices there's about 7-10 people there with another few filing in and out as the day progresses. Obviously as we get closer to the start of the first season that will grow, and as we grow that number will grow. As for help, I've got a group of intern candidates that I need to filter through and knock it down to about half a dozen to do things like handle social media (FB/TW) write articles for each day's division matches, moderate chat channels, etc. I'm very tardy in getting this done, but I am making progress and should have it whittled down to 6-7 people before the season starts in April. I'm not going to use this as a recruitment post as it violates TL.net policies, but that's the answer to your question. Where are the NASL.tv offices? Who are these 7-10 people and what are their backgrounds specifically with Starcraft? | ||
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