EPTHeart of the Swarm will have a Separate Ladder - Page 7
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johlar
Sweden165 Posts
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emythrel
United Kingdom2599 Posts
On February 18 2011 13:26 Jotoco wrote: Blizzard said we wouldn't need to buy all 3 games to play multi-player. Guess Activision got in the way of that. Way to keep your promises, Blizzard... And you wont have to buy all 3, thats the point. If you dont want HotS you can still play WoL on ladder, its just a seperate ladder..... they aren't forcing you to buy anything | ||
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emythrel
United Kingdom2599 Posts
On February 18 2011 16:07 ProtossGirl wrote: Shame WoW costs like $100 to get into now. WoW has 3 expansions, and you dont have to buy all of them if you dont want, you can also buy them as you need them to advance in level. WoW might cost $100 but you are getting 4 complete games for that. There is literally hundreds if not thousands of hours of content for each expansion, and expansions are nothing new. Hell I remember having to pay FOR PATCHES. When I first bought Duke Nukem 3D I had to pay for the Plutonium pack, which was basically what we would consider a patch now, not an expansion by any standards, even those of the times. All it added was 2 new maps and updated bug fixes etc...... before the plutonium pack (which was 1.4 or 1.5 if i remember right) you could buy 1.3. When plutonium arrived, you could skip the 1.3 disc and just use the 1.5 disc. These were literally patches and you had to pay nearly the price of a full game for them....... they added vrirtually nothing new and were just bug fixes, yet we paid because it was what you had to do. | ||
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RogerShah
Netherlands131 Posts
On February 18 2011 21:07 raga4ka wrote: No it will not ... .The casual players will play WoL . The competitive players will play HotS . If casual players want to become competitive they will just buy HotS . Maybe the custom games shouldn't be on a 2 diffrent ladders , but in 1 . But its in fact the attraction of casual players to visit SC2 related websites and watch streams which is a big part of the popularity of SC2. Look by example to HDStarcraft and Husky. If most of the WoL buyers for obvious reasons don't move on to HotS, HotS will never reach the popularity SC2 has right now. The HotS ladder will never be as big as the WoL ladder right is now. | ||
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RogerChillingworth
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SpoR
United States1542 Posts
On February 18 2011 13:40 Turgid wrote: Historically, it hasn't been the case that the release of new ladders(or areas, in the case of WoW) has significantly cut into the playing population. WoW has actually gotten pretty expensive and their battle chest system is pretty bad(it never includes the most recent expansion) but I imagine some time after LoV is released the package you will be able to buy will include both expansions. But yes, historically, people have just bought the expansion and moved on. I remember playing a little bit of Vanilla hardcore D2(by choice) a couple years after the release of LoD and there being a fun little 10 person community. They all owned LoD they just wanted to play with the smaller community. edit: Yeah, how dare they keep the exact same system from every other game with expansions they've ever released. it's possible that you don't need to buy the game, just some DLC. | ||
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FarbrorAbavna
Sweden4856 Posts
On February 18 2011 21:54 SpoR wrote: it's possible that you don't need to buy the game, just some DLC. Yeah, if blizz were to put out a dlc with the minimum requiered(units, maps, bugfixes etc) to play the hots multiplayer with an adjusted price tag that would be a genius move. It would definitely help in not watering down the player base by keeping people out who dont wanna pay for the single player but wanna move on to the hots multiplayer. | ||
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da_head
Canada3350 Posts
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arb
Noobville17920 Posts
On February 18 2011 12:58 Spacekyod wrote: I was curious how they were going to go about doing this, and i was hoping they wouldn't be creating a new ladder system. Though my only concern is, what does this mean exactly? If people on different ladders aren't able to play directly against eachother, then this will likely cut into the number of active people on each ladder and cut into wait times for games. All serious players will be buying HOTS on its release day | ||
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Scrimpton
United Kingdom465 Posts
On February 18 2011 22:06 FarbrorAbavna wrote: Yeah, if blizz were to put out a dlc with the minimum requiered(units, maps, bugfixes etc) to play the hots multiplayer with an adjusted price tag that would be a genius move. It would definitely help in not watering down the player base by keeping people out who dont wanna pay for the single player but wanna move on to the hots multiplayer. Personally i think this is a great idea. I have a lot of casual friends who play only a couple of online games per week at most, i doubt any of them would want to shell out the cost of a full singleplayer expansion just to get their small amount of online gameplay in. I'm pretty sure for an adjusted pricetag more people would buy the "multiplayer pack". I'm buying either way since i play a lot of sc2.. but it feels really shitty that im paying mostly for a singleplayer campaign, which in my opinion is a complete waste of development time for a game known purely for its online play. EDIT: omg, complete with the fact that there is no cross region play, it's going to make the game retardedly expensive to play to its full potential.. if only we could have features granted in 15 year old games. | ||
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MichaelJLowell
United States610 Posts
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Penecks
United States600 Posts
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Ome
Canada157 Posts
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Phenny
Australia1435 Posts
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gakkgakk
Norway902 Posts
On February 18 2011 23:25 Phenny wrote: Oh what the hell, I thought everything would be staying the same in the expansions as far as multiplayer and ladder were concerned. A different ladder is ridiculously unnecessary when they could make it so that WoL people could play with HotS people on the same ladder. I thought the expansions were purely campaign based, ugh desperate for more money... I wonder how many buys sc2 for the single player vs those who gets it for online play. It makes completely sense to me. | ||
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Phenny
Australia1435 Posts
On February 18 2011 23:27 gakkgakk wrote: I wonder how many buys sc2 for the single player vs those who gets it for online play. It makes completely sense to me. Yeh it makes sense, I would buy it for single player but I think the overwhelming majority only play multiplayer. It just sucks that all effort and rank playing on WoL is lost when HotS comes out >.< | ||
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thesideshow
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optical630
United Kingdom768 Posts
will the UI for the expansions change? what if i want the zerg one instead of the toss one?  | ||
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RoosterSamurai
Japan2108 Posts
On February 18 2011 23:40 optical630 wrote: i wanna know what will happen when all 3 expo's are released will the UI for the expansions change? what if i want the zerg one instead of the toss one? In theory, I suppose we are supposed to be closer to reaching an equilibrium like we currently have with Brood War. Also we may have lurkers >.> | ||
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Endorsed
Netherlands1221 Posts
On February 18 2011 23:25 Phenny wrote: Oh what the hell, I thought everything would be staying the same in the expansions as far as multiplayer and ladder were concerned. A different ladder is ridiculously unnecessary when they could make it so that WoL people could play with HotS people on the same ladder. I thought the expansions were purely campaign based, ugh desperate for more money... There will also be more units in the multiplayer/different maps. How could you play those at the same time. | ||
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