EPTHeart of the Swarm will have a Separate Ladder - Page 5
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Stropheum
United States1124 Posts
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ProtossGirl
England123 Posts
On February 18 2011 15:33 AndAgain wrote: How is it possible to have 1 ladder for both games? I work full time, i'm not worried about paying the price they determine is suitable for the game i spend 1000's of hours upon. It just strikes me as daft that as a multiplayer community, everybody seems content with having dead ladders, and a game structure that places needless boundaries to access for its multiplayer features. in 3 years time, little timmy wants to play some starcraft 2 online, he buys the game.. hits find match, 20 minutes later still no player found  .He tells his parents he needs the 2 expansions as well, he gets a smack round the head for being daft "we already bought you that game timmy" "but daaaad... i need to be playing on the only ladder still left alive by the odd corporate decisions to leave 2/3rd's of the game without a community" "no son, we're not letting you get dragged into this corporate scheme" "i'll go back to cod then... " | ||
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Combine
United States812 Posts
On February 18 2011 15:46 ProtossGirl wrote: I work full time, i'm not worried about paying the price they determine is suitable for the game i spend 1000's of hours upon. It just strikes me as daft that as a multiplayer community, everybody seems content with having dead ladders, and a game structure that places needless boundaries to access for its multiplayer features. in 3 years time, little timmy wants to play some starcraft 2 online, he buys the game.. hits find match, 20 minutes later still no player found .He tells his parents he needs the 2 expansions as well, he gets a smack round the head for being daft "we already bought you that game timmy" "but daaaad... i need to be playing on the only ladder still left alive by the odd corporate decisions to leave 2/3rd's of the game without a community" "no son, we're not letting you get dragged into this corporate scheme" "i'll go back to cod then... " By then there will be a battlechest with all the games bundled for a cheap price. Each game will probably go down in price as the next comes out. WoW has 12 million subs with three expansions to it. It's not the first game to have expansions, everyone knows how they work and they make it pretty apparent you need the later ones to be up with the current players. | ||
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Tsagacity
United States2124 Posts
I dont recall broodwar being planned pre release of starcraft. This doesn't matter at all. I could have told you ten years ago, before SC2 was in development, that Starcraft 2 would have an expansion pack. Blizzard has been doing expansions for two decades now. The only difference between SC->BW vs SC2->exp is the timing of the expansion announcements. Expansions that everyone knew were coming. I don't recall blizzard charging $60.00 per game 10 years ago Adjust for inflation. $60 is still an incredible entertainment time/cost value if it's a Blizzard quality game.I don't recall activision being involved before. They weren't, but that statement alone means nothing. Do you have some sort of source or proof to back up an assumption that Activision has some horribly corrupt hold over blizzard? Your posts scream "OMG EVIL CORPORATION" alarmism with absolutely no followup"hey guys, we got fucked around in the past before.. so lets just be okay with it this time, in a totally different contest!!" How did we get fucked in the past? I paid $50 and played the game consistently for ten years. Actually it was more than that because I bought Brood War several times due to losing discs.He tells his parents he needs the 2 expansions as well, he gets a smack round the head for being daft "we already bought you that game timmy" Little Timmy deserves a smack on the head for not just buying the battle chest  P.S. Your little timmy SOB story makes you sound like a politician: "Won't somebody please think of the children?!" | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10339 Posts
I am stating a fact that blizzard said the expansions would be standalone. I am not saying that they didn't change their minds. Like I said, the way the FAQ is written, it seems like they may have changed their minds. Aside from the FAQ, which is not clear, and is not even too reliable, where has it been said that they will not be standalone? I think you quoted the wrong person, or misunderstood me? I'm responding to how you asked if there would be a different ladder for every combination of game. | ||
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Hunterai
Thailand842 Posts
On February 18 2011 12:51 motbob wrote: I vow to someday be #1 on the WoL ladder... even if it LotV gets released and I'm the only competent player left! LOL, I fully endorse this ;-) | ||
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Dont Panic
United States194 Posts
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Decko
United States150 Posts
Edit: I think warcraft 2's expansion was preplanned before warcraft 2 was release, I think everyone is certain that Diablo2's expansion was preplanned as well. I remember having to install tons of data from the original Diablo 2 disc when the expansion was released. | ||
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ProtossGirl
England123 Posts
On February 18 2011 15:54 Combine wrote: By then there will be a battlechest with all the games bundled for a cheap price. Each game will probably go down in price as the next comes out. WoW has 12 million subs with three expansions to it. It's not the first game to have expansions, everyone knows how they work and they make it pretty apparent you need the later ones to be up with the current players. Shame WoW costs like $100 to get into now. | ||
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dc302
Australia576 Posts
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
On February 18 2011 15:46 ProtossGirl wrote: I work full time, i'm not worried about paying the price they determine is suitable for the game i spend 1000's of hours upon. It just strikes me as daft that as a multiplayer community, everybody seems content with having dead ladders, and a game structure that places needless boundaries to access for its multiplayer features. in 3 years time, little timmy wants to play some starcraft 2 online, he buys the game.. hits find match, 20 minutes later still no player found .He tells his parents he needs the 2 expansions as well, he gets a smack round the head for being daft "we already bought you that game timmy" "but daaaad... i need to be playing on the only ladder still left alive by the odd corporate decisions to leave 2/3rd's of the game without a community" "no son, we're not letting you get dragged into this corporate scheme" "i'll go back to cod then... " 1) seriously, fuck Timmy. He's three years late, the little bastard doesn't deserve to play online. 2) Try finding a game in FiFA 08 now. Are the EA servers even up anymore? I think they got closed down two years after release. 3) Timmy also can't play CoD, he won't find any games, no one plays CoD anymore. He'll have to buy Modern Warfare 2 or Black Ops for that. *cue he gets a smack round the head for being daft "we already bought you that game timmy"* :p On February 18 2011 16:14 dc302 wrote: so what does this mean for professionals? will the GSL and stuff still be in WoL? We'll see upon release of the first expansion, but I presume the transition will be speedy, just like when SC2 retail came out. | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
On February 18 2011 16:05 Decko wrote: Expansions have never costed 60 dollars, and I almost guarantee this one won't cost 60 dollars either. It's the same formula that they've followed for years, there's really no news here, it's status quo. I'm perfectly fine with it, I just hope the expansions don't destroy the balance of the game. I just hope that one of them ends 4 gating in PvP. Otherwise the legacy of the void will leave a pretty cheesy legacy. Edit: I think warcraft 2's expansion was preplanned before warcraft 2 was release, I think everyone is certain that Diablo2's expansion was preplanned as well. I remember having to install tons of data from the original Diablo 2 disc when the expansion was released. Don't forget that they scrapped the Valkyrie in vanilla SC1 only to have it return in BW. Also, the ending to the vanilla SC1 campaign directly foreshadowed the storyline for BW, so I think it safe to say that Blizzard was already planning a sequel/expansion when making SC1. | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
On February 18 2011 16:14 dc302 wrote: so what does this mean for professionals? will the GSL and stuff still be in WoL? EVERYONE will move onto the next expansion pack once it is released. The professional scene will switch to each new expansion pack no matter what, especially since it will probably be plugging balance holes in the game. The number of active players who won't switch will be an extremely small and negligible minority. The few people who won't switch are either very inactive or are financially incapable of affording the new expansions. There won't be a "split" in the community because the vast majority community will already be playing the expansion pack, especially since the entire professional scene will switch. | ||
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vojnik
Macedonia923 Posts
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Zombo Joe
Canada850 Posts
Then again Blizzard is too greedy to do that... | ||
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Vista
United States100 Posts
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Silentness
United States2821 Posts
It would be like someone claiming to be the king of Starcraft Vanilla (not talking about Brood War). Starcraft Vanilla = no medics/firebats... that completely changes Bio TvZ lol No Darktemplar cheese... that alone is gamebreaking. Oh yeah and the Brood War expansion gave us lame 1 hatch lurker rush builds too >.<. I'm kidding I like lurkers too... I have no idea what kind of updates will happen in the Starcraft 2 expansions, but it will most likely change the multiplayer mode a LOT so anyone sticking with Wings of Liberty will definitely be left behind. | ||
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chenchen
United States1136 Posts
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darmousseh
United States3437 Posts
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darmousseh
United States3437 Posts
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