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Crushgroove
United States793 Posts
I understand that there will be a different ladder, but its all the same battle.net is my point. Should be able to see how you're ranked on the WoL ladder and on the HotS ladder from the same interface. And select any portrait you've earned form either ladder for B.net. There's zero reason why that isn't technically feasible. | ||
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Jamial
Denmark1289 Posts
But I guess I'm in the smaller of the two groups of people. I reckon most want as many different "ladders" as possible. | ||
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Nemireck
Canada1875 Posts
On February 20 2011 05:22 Leeoku wrote: the point was that it was previously stated (i cant find the link) that each release would be a full standalone with the same battle net experience for all 3 versions They were quite clear that they would be expansions, not stand-alone games. The media reporting on the announcements described the expansions as stand-alone, not Blizzard themselves. | ||
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Kleinmuuhg
Vanuatu4091 Posts
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On February 20 2011 07:14 Kleinmuuhg wrote: Theyre using the same trick they used in wow. "You dont have to buy the expansion, you can still play the normal version " and with normal i mean old, and with play i mean alone. So yeah, basically you will have to buy it. How is it a trick? you rather want no updates for the multiplayer at all? oh no, you want free unit updates in a game wich is clearly focused on multiplayer. Its not like they shut down the WOL servers is it? zomg i need to spend money for new content, wuts this?! | ||
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Kleinmuuhg
Vanuatu4091 Posts
On February 20 2011 07:28 Assirra wrote: How is it a trick? you rather want no updates for the multiplayer at all? oh no, you want free unit updates in a game wich is clearly focused on multiplayer. Its not like they shut down the WOL servers is it? zomg i need to spend money for new content, wuts this?! Do you really think that no updates is the only alternative to this? It used to be standart to have new content and updates for free, just like it used to be standart to have a game released that was working with only few bugs. Nowadays its all about making money, which is understandable as blizzard is just another company as well. Valve shows that it is possible to make a good living out of selling games without constantly pressuring to buy expansions ( cs source or tf2 ). Are you really making fun of me because Im find it unacceptable to be forced like this? | ||
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Eury
Sweden1126 Posts
On February 20 2011 07:37 Kleinmuuhg wrote: Do you really think that no updates is the only alternative to this? It used to be standart to have new content and updates for free, just like it used to be standart to have a game released that was working with only few bugs. Nowadays its all about making money, which is understandable as blizzard is just another company as well. Valve shows that it is possible to make a good living out of selling games without constantly pressuring to buy expansions ( cs source or tf2 ). Are you really making fun of me because Im find it unacceptable to be forced like this? But Blizzard do provide free updates and content in SC 2? | ||
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Kleinmuuhg
Vanuatu4091 Posts
On February 20 2011 07:40 Eury wrote: But Blizzard do provide free updates and content in SC 2? They provide free updates for the bugs that shouldn't be there in the first place and for balance issues which both are essential so that it is even possible to play.They're not adding anything new. Now keep in mind please that I'm not raging against Blizzard. They made a lot of great games and from their view it is totally understandable to make money out of that, but i think my criticism isn't totally unjustified. | ||
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optical630
United Kingdom768 Posts
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QuestSeekers
United States39 Posts
Further, Does the OP imply that LotV will have all the units from HotS and WoL? Soooo, don't buy HoTS, just wait for LotV and get the 'final' ladder with all the units... Or will there be ladders for every conceivable mix of 'expansions'? Example, a Ladder for people with WoL, and LotV, but not HotS | ||
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Eury
Sweden1126 Posts
On February 20 2011 07:44 Kleinmuuhg wrote: They provide free updates for the bugs that shouldn't be there in the first place and for balance issues which both are essential so that it is even possible to play.They're not adding anything new. Now keep in mind please that I'm not raging against Blizzard. They made a lot of great games and from their view it is totally understandable to make money out of that, but i think my criticism isn't totally unjustified. Bugs will always exist. Find me a game without any bugs. Secondly they do provide free content, Star Jewel, Aiur Chef, Left 2 Die + several melee maps have been provided after launch without costing you anything extra. Maybe that isn't good enough for you, so why don't you tell us what kind of free content you are after, hats ala TF 2 perhaps? | ||
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Kleinmuuhg
Vanuatu4091 Posts
On February 20 2011 07:54 QuestSeekers wrote: I thought they were all going to be stand alone games? Further, Does the OP imply that LotV will have all the units from HoTS and WoL? Soooo, don't buy HoTS, just wait for LotV and get the 'final' ladder with all the units... Or will there be ladders for every conceivable mix of 'expansions'? "just waiting" for lotv would mean waiting for like 1.5 years , but it would be a possibility. On February 20 2011 07:54 Eury wrote: Bugs will always exist. Find me a game without any bugs. Secondly they do provide free content, Star Jewel, Aiur Chef, Left 2 Die + several melee maps have been provided after launch without costing you anything extra. Maybe that isn't good enough for you, so why don't you tell us what kind of free content you are after, hats ala TF 2 perhaps? "Maybe that isnt good enough for you" Are you serious? If you dont want to have a rational argument, fine. | ||
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craz3d
Bulgaria856 Posts
On February 20 2011 07:54 QuestSeekers wrote: I thought they were all going to be stand alone games? Further, Does the OP imply that LotV will have all the units from HoTS and WoL? Soooo, don't buy HoTS, just wait for LotV and get the 'final' ladder with all the units... Or will there be ladders for every conceivable mix of 'expansions'? Unless Blizzard make it so that LotV requires an installed HoTS  | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On February 20 2011 07:37 Kleinmuuhg wrote: Do you really think that no updates is the only alternative to this? It used to be standart to have new content and updates for free, just like it used to be standart to have a game released that was working with only few bugs. Nowadays its all about making money, which is understandable as blizzard is just another company as well. Valve shows that it is possible to make a good living out of selling games without constantly pressuring to buy expansions ( cs source or tf2 ). Are you really making fun of me because Im find it unacceptable to be forced like this? Valve is the exception, not the rule. They are known for doing crazy stuff like that in the same way they are known for selling games at insanely low prices during the steam sales. I am not sure if it ever was standard that you got free updates, i might have missed something but from far as i can remember you always needed to buy new content, from expansion to DLC (dont get me started about this crap) Plz give me examples if i am wrong here.(non valve) | ||
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Kleinmuuhg
Vanuatu4091 Posts
On February 20 2011 07:58 Assirra wrote: Valve is the exception, not the rule. They are known for doing crazy stuff like that in the same way they are known for selling games at insanely low prices during the steam sales. I am not sure if it ever was standard that you got free updates, i might have missed something but from far as i can remember you always needed to buy new content, from expansion to DLC (dont get me started about this crap) Plz give me examples if i am wrong here.(non valve) You're right maybe I went a little to far with the standart new content. Gotta leave this thread before I get destroyed. | ||
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Reborn58
United States238 Posts
I hope there are some good new maps integrated into the pool soon | ||
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Eury
Sweden1126 Posts
On February 20 2011 07:56 Kleinmuuhg wrote: "just waiting" for lotv would mean waiting for like 1.5 years , but it would be a possibility. "Maybe that isnt good enough for you" Are you serious? If you dont want to have a rational argument, fine. It was a simple question, what kind of free content do you feel is lacking in SC 2? | ||
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dragonblade369
Canada464 Posts
On February 20 2011 07:37 Kleinmuuhg wrote: Do you really think that no updates is the only alternative to this? It used to be standart to have new content and updates for free, just like it used to be standart to have a game released that was working with only few bugs. Nowadays its all about making money, which is understandable as blizzard is just another company as well. Valve shows that it is possible to make a good living out of selling games without constantly pressuring to buy expansions ( cs source or tf2 ). Are you really making fun of me because Im find it unacceptable to be forced like this? You have no idea how the gaming industry works.... | ||
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genius_man16
United States749 Posts
On February 20 2011 03:46 [NoiSe] wrote: A separate ladder would be cool, but then how are achievements going to work? This sounds lame but I really enjoy getting portraits haha. If we use the same account, will MMR transfer over? Will portraits be different? So many questions D: This is the only question I have. Will our PROFILE transfer over? Will we keep our achievement points and portraits? I really hope so. This is the only thing that I would rage over. I'm a bit of an achievement whore and not getting to keep those in the new expansion would be pretty stupid. Although getting an answer in this sea of "omg blizzard is ripping us off! D:" seems unlikely. | ||
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megagoten
318 Posts
On February 20 2011 08:35 genius_man16 wrote: This is the only question I have. Will our PROFILE transfer over? Will we keep our achievement points and portraits? I really hope so. This is the only thing that I would rage over. I'm a bit of an achievement whore and not getting to keep those in the new expansion would be pretty stupid. Although getting an answer in this sea of "omg blizzard is ripping us off! D:" seems unlikely. hopefully blizzard won't chop off our e-peens | ||
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