EPTeven now there still isn't a whole lot of money in e-sports but it supports thousands of people financially, maybe not tens of or hundreds of, but still thousands.
Financial Stability Of Being A Progamer in NA - Page 2
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TrainFX
United States469 Posts
even now there still isn't a whole lot of money in e-sports but it supports thousands of people financially, maybe not tens of or hundreds of, but still thousands. | ||
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rS.Sinatra
Canada785 Posts
On February 02 2011 05:47 Ponyo wrote: thats it? I thought this topic was going to change my life. what were you expecting? Donald Trump's book on how to get rich? lol... | ||
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zyzski
United States698 Posts
Coaching/lessons = $$$ also, half of the sc2 pros play poker as well | ||
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e4e5nf3
Canada599 Posts
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chenchen
United States1136 Posts
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Ten Tron
United States48 Posts
Not sure what people define pro gamer as either. Does winning a tournament with a $1000 cash pool once a year make you a pro gamer? Or do you need multiple wins and a average yearly income of $50,000 to be considered one? Do you have to win anything at all? Are shout casters pro gamers? Are SC community website owners pro gamers? What about tournament organizers? Do you have to win or make money? | ||
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canikizu
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BlueStar
Bulgaria1169 Posts
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chenchen
United States1136 Posts
On February 02 2011 07:17 Ten Tron wrote: How many NA pro gamers are there? and how many worldwide? Not sure what people define pro gamer as either. Does winning a tournament with a $1000 cash pool once a year make you a pro gamer? Or do you need multiple wins and a average yearly income of $50,000 to be considered one? Do you have to win anything at all? Are shout casters pro gamers? Are SC community website owners pro gamers? What about tournament organizers? Do you have to win or make money? The status of being a "progamer" is obviously not as well defined as it is in Brood War (salaried, full time, living in Korean prohouses). Most people labeled as "progamer" are just really good amateurs. I'd define progamer to be someone whose primary source of income comes from gaming, whether through tournaments or coaching. | ||
bkrow
Australia8532 Posts
On February 02 2011 06:08 dkim wrote: In my belief, you don't go into progaming for money, passion, or love of competition. You become a progamer if you are a super amazing gosu. So what - you just wake up one day and you are super amazing gosu? Lol no .. you get that way from a shitload of practice because of your passion and desire for competition.. Financial stability cannot be one of the top priorities for someone wanting to be a progamer in NA.. maybe someone actually on a pro team could comment in here, because that would be great - i don't want to know how much you earn.. just if it is financially viable  | ||
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Samp
Canada783 Posts
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mindspike
Canada1902 Posts
On February 02 2011 06:51 Holcan wrote: There is no financial stability, unless you do something like gosu coaching, which will go down in price as the market realizes what the coaches gives arent worth such a steep price and there are plenty of quality players out there to give advice for free, or you practice so much that you are essentially earning slave labour wages to earn a salary from one of the larger teams. 99% of people in esports give more money to esports than they will ever get out, its not economically viable, unless you are literally ripping people off of their money, you will not make money enough money in esports to actually note. So you think there is a bubble in e-sports? If anything, I think the market is spot on in terms of how much it values e-sports and that over time, the value of the sector will go UP. Like all other sports, the relative value of the sport depends on the number of eyeballs that the sport attracts which again relates to the popularity of the sport itself. Take something like Poker for example. Poker was a small, niche market back in early 2000. There wasn't a lot of interest from the mainstream and it wasn't really on TV much. However, in 2004, something happened. Interest shot up as a result of the "Moneymaker effect". (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moneymaker_Effect) In conjunction with the advent of online poker, the popularity of poker rose and attracted both players and fans alike. Today, poker is on many major cable networks and you could say that poker has its own self sustaining economy. The same thing, I believe, could happen to e-sports in general. Its just a matter of the right things coming together. | ||
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hmunkey
United Kingdom1973 Posts
I don't understand the point of this thread. | ||
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noD
2230 Posts
Tho a lot of good sc1 players got rich in poker xDDDDDDD | ||
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dkim
United States255 Posts
On February 02 2011 07:29 bkrow wrote: So what - you just wake up one day and you are super amazing gosu? Lol no .. you get that way from a shitload of practice because of your passion and desire for competition.. Financial stability cannot be one of the top priorities for someone wanting to be a progamer in NA.. maybe someone actually on a pro team could comment in here, because that would be great - i don't want to know how much you earn.. just if it is financially viable no, what I meant by it was that you should not decide to become a progamer by passion and desire for competition alone. There are plenty of gamers like that (probably most of us in TL) which shows that passion and love for competition is not enough. you need to be an exceptional player that is capable of winning and being the very best at the game. otherwise you are just a self-claimed "progamer" and you can find plenty of those in halo scene -_- edit: I believe more logical step is, first get better at the game with a passion / desire for just sake of being better or fun. once you get there and start pwning, you decide to go pro. this will surely save a lot of futile efforts by scrubs who has such will and motivation, but just suck at the game. | ||
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emc
United States3088 Posts
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TT1
Canada10014 Posts
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Tenks
United States3104 Posts
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Tenks
United States3104 Posts
On February 02 2011 07:55 TT1 wrote: casters make like 10x more money than top gamers Which seems pretty ass backwards, tbh. | ||
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Stevelisk
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On February 02 2011 07:55 TT1 wrote: casters make like 10x more money than top gamers Pretty much this. With the amount of money Youtube gives out for moderate traffic videos, casters like Husky could easily make up to $100k/yr. Not a bad deal considering that's about 5-10 hours of work per week. | ||
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