EPTPaying to watch GSL matches... Is it a good idea? - Page 20
| Forum Index > SC2 General |
|
RataNSWE
Sweden6 Posts
| ||
|
osten
Sweden316 Posts
| ||
|
minimat
Australia344 Posts
On January 31 2011 17:06 osten wrote: It seems you don't understand that it's free. It seems you don't understand that this topic is about whether or not the $10 is worth it not that it's free. | ||
|
jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On January 31 2011 16:59 Rokk wrote: How nice of you to sacrifice the prize pools you wouldn't be winning. OSL and MSL pay about half the prize pool of GSL and have less frequent tournaments, just in case you weren't aware. | ||
|
StUfF
Australia1437 Posts
On January 31 2011 17:11 jalstar wrote: OSL and MSL pay about half the prize pool of GSL and have less frequent tournaments, just in case you weren't aware. So your point is... they should have less tournaments so theres less content, and less prize money so there's less incentive for pros to play/foreigners to come to korea? You do realise the majority of Pros in BW make a salary? | ||
|
jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On January 31 2011 17:18 StUfF wrote: So your point is... they should have less tournaments so theres less content, and less prize money so there's less incentive for pros to play/foreigners to come to korea? You do realise the majority of Pros in BW make a salary? Yes, and they should have free VODs. Yes, and so do most SC2 players. | ||
|
Zeke50100
United States2220 Posts
Other than that, having to pay for a ticket from 12 years ago seems a bit ridiculous (slightly exaggerated). I think VODs should go free after 2 seasons or so, since it makes more sense >.< | ||
|
Duke
United States1106 Posts
an issue i had is that the one time i wanted to watch live matches (idra vs jinro), the shit was so bogged down i couldnt, and waited till the next day. not a huge deal but what a pain in the ass. | ||
Falling
Canada11359 Posts
However, that's only if you're interested in SC2 in the first place. It cuts out the casual fan base. For a sports analogy- there's no way I'd pay to watch the NHL play-off on TV. I casually watch hockey with my friends during the play-offs and that's it. If I had to pay for it, I wouldn't watch at all. So then there is the SQ live stream. Which is good. It's free and I've used it quite often. However, I often ended up going to bed at 4am or 5am in the morning (My time zone is PST). It's worth it to me because I'm really into Starcraft and watching a Jinro or Boxer game means something to me. But even your average laddering SC player is probably not going to watch till 4am and people that have never played SC will NEVER stay up that late to do so. Actually, I wouldn't be able to do that anymore as I'm on a work schedule, not a university schedule and the GSL3 just wasted me. An official restream at a more reasonable hour would be a nice addition to increase it's accessibility without making things very awkward on the Korean end. (Although I did appreciate the change of schedule in this last GSL.) | ||
|
DND_Enkil
Sweden598 Posts
On January 31 2011 17:22 Zeke50100 wrote: *coughparentscough*. Simply having the transaction online, regardless of price, is a HUGE deterrent for people who would otherwise be glad to spend some money. Your parent wont let you buy it i take it? That sucks... As for having the treansactions online i personally dont see the problem, there are so many options for safe and easy online transactions nowadays. I personally use a VISA generator my bank provides (generates a new temporary VISA number with only as much money i want on it). And back to the topic. I think this really is the best option for them by far, i would suggest they run some other leagues as free for all to draw in audience and keep charging for the regular GSL's. Looking at something like MMA who has grown using PPV it is probably the best option for any niche-sport. I just have a really hard time beliving that the extra wievers they would get from having it all free would somehow compensate (from thier POV) for the loss on revenue. It is to niche a market to begin with. | ||
|
Meta
United States6225 Posts
| ||
|
Dhalphir
Australia1305 Posts
The US is not the only place where SC2 has an audience and the non-US GSL audience outweighs the US audience by a significant margin given that its an international broadcast. | ||
|
Terranist
United States2496 Posts
On January 31 2011 18:40 Dhalphir wrote: You people keep mentioning the time factor like its relevant at all. The US is not the only place where SC2 has an audience and the non-US GSL audience outweighs the US audience by a significant margin given that its an international broadcast. source? i would imagine that USA accounts for most of GSL's premium ticket income because we cannot actually be up at 3:00 AM to watch the live stream. | ||
|
Pkol
Australia176 Posts
I feel if they filled the 10min breaks with adds, which I assume they do on the Korean stream, they may be able to reduce/remove vod costs. (Hell, even add adds into the VODs themselves). I'm guessing before this is possible GOM would have to establish GSL as an attractive medium for advertising, which I (hope) they have or are in the process of doing! Maybe there's some kind of discussion the works as we speak? Here's hoping :D | ||
|
Meldon
Greece128 Posts
It would be cool if they had everything for free, but you get some pretty HQ production for a small fee, it's not like exploitation + a tsunami of nerds would break the site. | ||
|
Dox
Australia1199 Posts
On January 31 2011 06:34 heyoka wrote: I think its an awful policy that shows very little understanding of how to grow a sport. Ironically it's working very well. Consider the following: - The money used goes directly into improving the stream quality. Tasteless says it at least 5 times per day. (The stream quality, incidentally, has improved significantly since the first season.) - Anyone can watch it (SQ) for free. If that doesn't suit your timezone, that's not GomTV's fault. - This is a better service than anything we've ever seen in the past, especially when you consider prestige, production quality and comparative value for money. - It's growing phenomenally with every passing season. - GomTV employees consult the community directly for feedback and suggestions. The current pricing is a result of that. I've happily paid for every season thus far and I've enjoyed every cent of it. I can't think of anything else in the world which can provide so many hours of entertainment for so little. | ||
|
Stephen_drewz
Australia41 Posts
If they wish to charge its 110% reasonable. They gotta cover there cost of bandwidth somehow. EDIT: Im sure if they could justify making it completely free, they would. | ||
|
Ethic
Canada439 Posts
| ||
|
Jayson X
Switzerland2431 Posts
But what the customers are essentially paying for is the english commentary, lets be honest. The GSL would still run without Tastosis and I would still watch it and it would still reach an international audience. That is not to say what they provide is bad. About 52 vods (the grouped ones) have over 100k viewers. Compared to some of the youtube rips who barely reach 1k that's remarkable. A quick search tells me that the Justin.tv rips have a lot more viewers than youtube and go into the 10-50k range. Again I don't think paying for a good service is bad. But going into breaks and then showing us 5 minutes of a half empty studio is not exactly the sign of marketing geniuses. It's lost screen time. | ||
|
xlep
Germany274 Posts
On January 31 2011 19:59 Jayson X wrote: Again I don't think paying for a good service is bad. But going into breaks and then showing us 5 minutes of a half empty studio is not exactly the sign of marketing geniuses. It's lost screen time. It's not like they can just pull out sponsors for a global audience... As the awareness of SC2 grows I'm sure they'll find sponsors for the breaks. | ||
| ||
