EPTBut what deters me from actually paying is that I cant watch GSL so early/late. I work full time, and cant compromise sleep to watch "TV".
Paying to watch GSL matches... Is it a good idea? - Page 18
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DyEnasTy
United States3714 Posts
But what deters me from actually paying is that I cant watch GSL so early/late. I work full time, and cant compromise sleep to watch "TV". | ||
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Zocat
Germany2229 Posts
Or offer VODs of individual series for a very low price (1$). 10$ is still too much for my casual friends, but I would like them to watch certain matches (which they would enjoy). "Watch them live" is problematic. First, I dont know which matches are going to be good (i.e. disappointing finals) and second the normal matches are at 10am. Not possible on a normal workday. And they still need to provide better streaming services for EU. I'm on a 20mbit connection, can watch 10 TL streams simultaneously, but need to buffer my VODs which are 1mb. | ||
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DeltruS
Canada2214 Posts
Starcraft is NOT a mass-appeal game. No good game is a mass-appeal game. Mass appeal? Think Donkey Kong. Inane, simple, easy, stupid, but POPULAR. I don't think that is the case for SC2. People don't have to play it to be a fan of watching it. Watching it can be simple and easy just like donkey kong. It can be a hell of a lot more exciting, too. I bet more than 50% of the people on this forum don't even play SC2 on a regular basis. | ||
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PukinDog
United States131 Posts
On January 31 2011 15:06 DyEnasTy wrote: I think its ok for GOM to expect money for this. I already pay to have satellite TV, so why not pay to have this (even better) "TV"? But what deters me from actually paying is that I cant watch GSL so early/late. I work full time, and cant compromise sleep to watch "TV". This is what I mean. (jesus) Dude, if you pay for the GSL, you can watch the games whenever you want to. Over and over again. Ok, I'm tired. Good night. | ||
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PukinDog
United States131 Posts
On January 31 2011 15:10 DeltruS wrote: I don't think that is the case for SC2. People don't have to play it to be a fan of watching it. Watching it can be simple and easy just like donkey kong. It can be a hell of a lot more exciting, too. I bet more than 50% of the people on this forum don't even play SC2 on a regular basis. Oh brother. Ok, one more. Dude, when you can explain to your Grandma a Timing Push, or why 2-Port Banshees is deadly against Zerg FE, or why you need detection for DTs, and have Grandma understand it within 60 seconds, then Starcraft will be mass-appeal. Dammit. | ||
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0neder
United States3733 Posts
On January 31 2011 15:06 DyEnasTy wrote: I think its ok for GOM to expect money for this. I already pay to have satellite TV, so why not pay to have this (even better) "TV"? But what deters me from actually paying is that I cant watch GSL so early/late. I work full time, and cant compromise sleep to watch "TV". I've bought all 4 seasons and I never watch live. I pay for the HQ VODs that I can watch on demand, skip pre-game/post-game commentary if I want, and not have to worry about stream issues. | ||
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Seronei
Sweden991 Posts
On January 31 2011 15:13 PukinDog wrote: Oh brother. Ok, one more. Dude, when you can explain to your Grandma a Timing Push, or why 2-Port Banshees is deadly against Zerg FE, or why you need detection for DTs, and have Grandma understand it within 60 seconds, then Starcraft will be mass-appeal. Dammit. There is almost no sport that you will understand fully in 60 seconds, she can however see who has the bigger army and should even recognize the larger units as more powerful and understand the basics of the game (losing your base or army = bad). | ||
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cler1c
United States8 Posts
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dtz
5834 Posts
It is not the price that is the issue. There is barely any difference between $5 or $20 for me ( and for most people here tbh). Someone pointed out something about TIME charging $1 for their online content ( which is negligible) and they immediately lost 90 percent of hits. Figures might not be accurate but you get the point. | ||
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dabom88
United States3483 Posts
On January 31 2011 13:28 LittleAtari wrote: As for the people who say that they are in no way harming GOM by watching the videos elsewhere because they otherwise wouldn't watch, yea right. Think of it, if no one ever re-streamed or uploaded the VODs elsewhere, people like you wouldn't have access to those videos and would be forced to pay to watch. Their sales would skyrocket because that would be the only way to watch. Don't think that by watching a restream that's already available, that you are not supporting that act and making it worse because if not that many people watched restreams, then those providing the restreams would be less encouraged to do so. Bull. ****. Forced to pay my ass. No one is forced to buy anything. Those that don't want to pay aren't going to pay and no one can force them to. If there were no restreams or uploaded VODs and the only way to watch was at an inconvenient time or to pay, they just wouldn't watch it. As a result, there would be no interest at all, and they wouldn't even watch the free VODs on the GOM's site. And by not having any interest, even the free VODs would not be shared on sites like Facebook and Twitter and such amongst the people that would no longer watch them, leading to even more decreased exposure because even less people would become interested. Sales would plummet, not skyrocket. Many of those that watch the free Restreams/VODs want to support E-Sports but think GOM's method of "pay or watch at an inconvenient time" is the wrong way to do it, so they don't support it. But they do want to support the parts of GOM they like and at the very least, watch the first vid/interviews on the GOM site. Free VODs, whether they be HQ, SQ, ad-supported, or ad-free, is the right way to go and everyone will support that, and they share the free official GOM VODs that they like on Facebook and Twitter, leading to more views, more exposure, more free publicity, and potentially more sales. I definitely do. | ||
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wolfe
United States761 Posts
On the e-sports side, yeah more people would be interested if they could get VODs for free too, but there are illicit means available + free streams. Conversely, think about like this. If GomTV couldn't make money or enough money they won't be able to host as large of an event as the GSL as often. Without the GSL SC2 as a e-sport is dead or mute. | ||
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taintmachine
United States431 Posts
as for if GOM would have had made more money if they waited to charge for future seasons, i don't know if anyone can even guess that that but people who have seen their profits and losses. | ||
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JustQuitWarcraftIII
United States679 Posts
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kash2k
139 Posts
I dont think argument like "they have to pay that an that" should be used. Want for free? Make your own tourney and organize it. I'm more then happy to contribute to eSport awareness!!!!!!! :D | ||
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kash2k
139 Posts
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
I'd say for everything great game, there are about five or six groaners. So I'm kind of on the fence for the next season. If there were more Zergs (the race I'd play), I'd be more inclined to re-subscribe ... but's it looking like Terrans are going to dominate next season. I also wish there were more foreigners ... not because I'm racist, but I'm starting to find Korean style of all-in-ish, high risk high reward play really monotonous. Most games are one-sided. I'd rather have macro games, with a lot of back-and-forth. If the GOM puts in the new maps this coming season, that might lure me to re-subscribe as well. | ||
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Dubzex
United States6994 Posts
Maybe GOMTV can try to set up an advertising system like youtube or those live streams that people use a lot. They can sell adspots on their VODs and the revenue they earn that way would replace the money they take in for the monthly payments from people. The difficult part would be finding people willing to advertise on the VODs... they could probably try and contact the usual suspects like car companies and electronics/computer companies. I'm not entirely sure how much money these ads bring in and maybe it won't be enough, but heres to hoping they try something like this. | ||
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MichaelJLowell
United States610 Posts
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Twistacles
Canada1327 Posts
I share the account with people who are interested but would never have payed for it anyway. | ||
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
Technically, BW contents (from Korea) are not free, and same as GOM content. You should be relieved and thankful to GOM for providing a free SQ and so-cheap HQ. Not happy ? there'r always HQ re-streams and sites for downloading VODs. You still can get as much as you want without willing to pay. Stop whining. Im happy to pay only $15 for one month of HBO, ESPN, and Im more than happy to pay only $15 for one month of daily-entertainment GSL & support esport | ||
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