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Deleted User 124618
1142 Posts
On January 31 2011 01:25 Meteora.GB wrote: So... people are now up in arms about foreigners seeded in Code A? Is that what people are getting at, or is it just me who woke up from my sleep in the morning? People are now up in arms about foreigners being too lazy to bother trying to get into GSL  | ||
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btlyger
United States470 Posts
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zev318
Canada4306 Posts
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KevinIX
United States2472 Posts
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Krehlmar
Sweden1149 Posts
The russians better not get word of this... | ||
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TheBanana
Norway2183 Posts
On January 31 2011 00:50 1Eris1 wrote: Wow = /. Only the seeded foriengors made it in? thats rough Not considering zero "top" foreigners tried. It's pretty much what you'd expect, even though Torch was close. | ||
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dras
Kazakhstan376 Posts
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
On January 31 2011 01:21 Adeeler wrote: They are making a tonne if not most of there income from foreigner subscriptions, they don't even need sponsors they could foot the whole bill themselves for the next 2 years with the subscription money they have gotten so far. Source? Unless you know their costs and earnings, I'm calling that wild speculation On January 31 2011 01:25 Meteora.GB wrote: So... people are now up in arms about foreigners seeded in Code A? Is that what people are getting at, or is it just me who woke up from my sleep in the morning? Nono, people are just sad that the only players in Code A are the ones who got seeded directly into it. Would have been nice to have a few foreigners make it through the qualifiers and get in on their own merit (not that the guys invited wouldn't deserve to be there) | ||
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TheBanana
Norway2183 Posts
On January 31 2011 01:32 KevinIX wrote: Doesn't Loner count for a foreigner spot, or are Chinese players not considered foreigners. He was already code A. | ||
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shannn
Netherlands2891 Posts
On January 31 2011 01:21 Adeeler wrote: They are making a tonne if not most of there income from foreigner subscriptions, they don't even need sponsors they could foot the whole bill themselves for the next 2 years with the subscription money they have gotten so far. Giving foreign players seeds into Code A is a good thing for them financially. But its a bad thing 'morally' as Korean Code A had to earn there spots and any foreign seed didn't earn there spot regardless if we think they deserve one due to their skill. The better option would be to do a massive league system to get into Code.A then at least random luck wouldn't keep good players out and the overall quality would be better; at least in theory. I think the seeding thing is a good thing for boosting the scene overall though as if the best players willing to go to korea go then there will be more chances for new players to rise up and get noticed. This may be true but they are doing it this way because of the possibility of a similar scenario as in BW. Koreans outgrew the foreigners in skill and the top foreigners just couldn't compete consistently with the top Korean players. GOM is doing a fantastic job to interact with and support the foreign scene and they should continue doing so. It helps us but as well as the Koreans. Have you ever seen the BW pro's trying to learn and speak English to thank the foreigners? They are being more open. They are trying to get to foreign events as well. We as fans get to see our favourite players playing in EU and US more in the future. It would be really and truly sick when MLG opens up. I can already expect people like MVP/MC/NaDa/NesTea going to MLG and MLG even needs to try and get them. I hope the 4 invitees atleast advances to the ro16 so that we can see 11! foreigners in the GSL after upcoming season. | ||
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Liveon
Netherlands1083 Posts
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hmsrenown
Canada1263 Posts
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Foxt
Belize181 Posts
On January 31 2011 00:34 Termit wrote: Will Ret play this season as Zerg or Terran? I saw on CatZ stream a couple of days ago that he was training Terran because he had no future as Zerg in Korea. is it true that zerg is really that bad? | ||
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Jombozeus
China1014 Posts
On January 30 2011 23:17 LetoAtreides82 wrote: That's a bit embarrassing. The results make it look like the only way foreigners can get in is if they are given a special pass. Why don't you sit down on that chair over there? Jinro would like to have a word with you. | ||
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Welmu
Finland3295 Posts
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Foxt
Belize181 Posts
And what is the point also, with that people can choose who they can fight against? And this whole concept of code A and code S? What the hell kind of tournament GSL is? this is just ridicilous Real tournament would not be about club of elitists who dont need to play their way to up. Real tournament would be tournament, where people need to actually PLAY their all the way from bottom to up. | ||
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dtz
5834 Posts
And the concept of Wild-card or Sponsors' picks are prevalent in many sports such as tennis and golf. Not something entirely new or bizzare. That said, i thought there were more people coming. When will DeMuslim/Sjow/Brat_ok gonna come? I thought it will be this month's GSL. But apparently not. And Brat_ok are ready to go yes? If not why would they (goodgame.ru) even bother campaigning for him. | ||
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Omnipresent
United States871 Posts
On January 31 2011 01:36 shannn wrote: This may be true but they are doing it this way because of the possibility of a similar scenario as in BW. Koreans outgrew the foreigners in skill and the top foreigners just couldn't compete consistently with the top Korean players. There's no way to substantiate this, but it makes little sense on its face. If their goal was to encourage foreigners to get better, why pick players already living in Korea, practicing with Korean teams, and (in the case of Ret) players who have already participated in Code A? | ||
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Sein
United States1811 Posts
On January 30 2011 23:31 FXOpen wrote: Top 192 in korea vs myself, who plays maybe 8 games a week....... Laneir who is a manager (and I beat 2-0). There were limited spots, I have no doubt that 3/4 of the seeded players would have gotten through, its just more gaurenteed if its done this way. Plenty of players from NA and europe could have challenged for the top spots. But really, can't be upset losing to a top 192 player from Korea.. I honestly dont think anyone in the whole net cafe had APM under 200, and everyone was very good. 80% of players had oGs or MVP jackets on... Your comment makes a bit upset actually just because it is kind of obvious that you don't know exactly whats going on and the processes of GSL.. Spades lost to a guy in TSL, you know the same team as Julyzerg? august? And the guy did a hybrid strategy which none of us had seen before. Like... grr. Hey, I wish you and the rest of your team best of luck in Korea, but your "192 vs 6" argument doesn't really work because qualifying for Code A isn't a random drawing and everything is 1v1. If those players are good enough, and they are consistent like you said yourself, they will make it in. They weren't the very best in the foreigner scene, but do note that around roughly 60 best Koreans weren't there either because they already have code S or A spots. July is in ST, not TSL. I also think that APM 200 and 80% oGs or MVP thing is a bit of an exaggeration because not that many people in Code S and A have over 200 average APM while oGs and MVP don't have that many people. Well, I guess they could just have been wearing those jackets. I hope this post didn't upset you because I didn't mean to, but I can come off as a bit too frank for my own good sometimes. I think it's awesome that you guys are there trying for GSL and I would be happy to see any of those guys who failed to qualify this time have more success next time around. | ||
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ptbl
United States6074 Posts
On January 31 2011 01:44 Foxt wrote: I dont understand what is the point of letting some people exclusive right to just skip qualifiers for tournament? And what is the point also, with that people can choose who they can fight against? And this whole concept of code A and code S? What the hell kind of tournament GSL is? this is just ridicilous Real tournament would not be about club of elitists who dont need to play their way to up. Real tournament would be tournament, where people need to actually PLAY their all the way from bottom to up. It's a tradition that goes back to Brood War. There has always been qualifiers. You've never heard of the Courage tournaments? | ||
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