SC2 Master League Information - Page 33

On February 02 2011 04:45 RuN_br wrote:
Just got promoted, from 2200 points to 1800.

On February 02 2011 11:32 RuN_br wrote:
well sorry about that, I didnt really write it down =/.

I do have a question tho, is there a hard cap for the number of players that can be in master league? If so why have we not hit it yet, new divisions are cropping up every day.

Is there no limit to master league players?


Also does that mean nobody can get demoted since there is technicaly no cap?

On February 02 2011 11:49 oesis wrote:
You can be demoted out of masters league, and re-promoted into it, it happened to me, you just wont necessarily be put back into same division.

On February 03 2011 01:14 SovSov wrote:
Hello Excalibur, I have a couple of questions for you..

Ok, so Masters is the Top 2% of ACTIVE players. Does this mean that if those same Top 2% players stayed active then no one would be able to get into Masters unless someone gets demoted first? (I'd assume this to be true for all leagues if every player was active all the time).

Which leads me to my next question..

In theory doesn't playing ladder more (staying active) increases your chance of getting promoted? Since the Top 2% of active players in November might not be as strong as the October ones, which would mean Master League actually fluctuates in skill level depending on who is active?

On February 03 2011 01:14 SovSov wrote:
Hello Excalibur, I have a couple of questions for you..

Ok, so Masters is the Top 2% of ACTIVE players. Does this mean that if those same Top 2% players stayed active then no one would be able to get into Masters unless someone gets demoted first? (I'd assume this to be true for all leagues if every player was active all the time).

Which leads me to my next question..

In theory doesn't playing ladder more (staying active) increases your chance of getting promoted? Since the Top 2% of active players in November might not be as strong as the October ones, which would mean Master League actually fluctuates in skill level depending on who is active?

On February 03 2011 01:36 shtdisturbance wrote:
I am curious i read about inactivity and stuff and i was wondering if lots of people go inactive once making masters then new divisions are created. Once these players start to play again and become active will there not be over 2% masters? Or would people get demoted?

On February 03 2011 01:31 Excalibur_Z wrote:


As long as those top 2% stayed in the top 2%, yes. If one of them remained active but wasn't winning as often as someone rising up from Diamond such that the Diamond player reached the top 2% and crossed into that Master threshold, he would be replaced.

Your activity doesn't really matter as much as the activity levels of existing players. Take these two scenarios as an example:

Let's say there's a Top 5 league and it consists of Nazgul, Ret, Nony, Jinro, and HuK. They're all super top level players on their imaginary server. Now let's say PiQLiQ is down there in the #6 position and he just can't catch up to any of them. Suddenly Nazgul, who was in the #1 spot, quits the game to go hang out with Eriador on a camping adventure. After a period of time, he would go inactive, and PiQLiQ, on his very next game after Nazgul is no longer declared active, would move up into the Top 5. PiQLiQ's overall skill hasn't changed, and the relative skill levels of the TL players hasn't changed, but a spot opened up in Master and he got promoted because he was next in line.

Nazgul returns from his camping adventure with Eriador, which was actually studying the ancient secrets of Garimto in the Peaks of Baekdu. He hasn't lost any skill and so when he returns to SC2 he is still razor sharp. As soon as he plays his first game, he's still in the #1 spot, and even though PiQLiQ is active and plays 100 games a day, Nazgul's skill level is higher and so he returns to joining that Top 5 league. Because Nazgul came back, that puts PiQLiQ back at #6 and therefore out of the league.

I hope that illustrates both sides of the league change.

On February 02 2011 11:59 Excalibur_Z wrote:


Side note, I don't understand why you would do this. I saw your other thread on the matter. Your new division isn't any easier than your old one because there are no division tiers in Master league.

On February 03 2011 02:21 MoreFaSho wrote:


I think he means easier in terms of other people, not in terms of like Class E in diamond. The reason it would likely (but not necessarily) be easier is that if you got into an early masters division it would likely be with a lot of good mass gamers, but the later divisions would be less likely (but not guaranteed not to) have as many pro gamers. I think it's very likely (but I have not verified), that there is a correlation between later divisions and average rating of top 10 players and I bet the much later division have a much lower average typically.

edit: quoted wrong post, fixed

We are planning on adding a master league for 2v2, when it becomes popular in eSports. However, our developers will still discuss the possibility of opening it up earlier.

On February 02 2011 11:59 Excalibur_Z wrote:


Side note, I don't understand why you would do this. I saw your other thread on the matter. Your new division isn't any easier than your old one because there are no division tiers in Master league.