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best thread i've ever read on tl since beta
i think blizz wants this... serious, they want to make it cost 0 dollars for them, get free "qualified" people dying to do it to do it for free
just to clarify: the op is asking for help from people capable of doing it with him... so quit the "great man keep at it", rather advertise this issue around you, convincing people it would be worth a try, remember until further notice, we HAVE NO NEW MAPS
he needs help.. hopefully someone gets it and tries to do it with him through and through (should scout sc2mapster for ums' freakgenius coders , they love a challenge and this is as guaranteed a hit right out of the gates as you can get...
+ Show Spoiler +as for "security", please drop it and admit that only constant players/admins/observers 'awareness and mobilization keep cheats of the www, no code is "secured" on earth and that's fine with me
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If this idea comes into play I will be ecstatic since over half the map pool is garbage and the maps that aren't garbage I've seen and played FOR OVER HALF A FREAKING YEAR. Seriously.
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Yeah, as of now the use of ICCUP maps on sc2 isn't nearly as high as it should be. Also it would be nice to have a competition with the ICCUP maps rather than the garbage blizzard ones.
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I would love this! I'm sure it would work and be allowed, I'm fairly certain there's a similar system set up on WC3 for DOTA or some such game. It has stats, info about leavers, etc... If this can be done on Bnet2.0 we can solve the entire Custom Maps/Tourneys/Ladder problem. Let's hammer this shit out.
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On January 04 2011 11:22 Zim23 wrote:
I would love this! I'm sure it would work and be allowed, I'm fairly certain there's a similar system set up on WC3 for DOTA or some such game. It has stats, info about leavers, etc... If this can be done on Bnet2.0 we can solve the entire Custom Maps/Tourneys/Ladder problem. Let's hammer this shit out.
well idk about tourneys, but def custom ladder / maps
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sure is people still thinking they can do better than blizzard..
you guys are never happy with what you got if blizzard had made exactly what you say you would find some reasons to criticize it anyway
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Great idea, im a bronze player that aready got bored with blizz maps and I watched on youtube a 2 games from iccup maps and they were great. I want to quit laddering and only get sparing partners on iccup maps.
A ladder would be a great addition 
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On January 04 2011 11:27 GizmoPT wrote:
sure is people still thinking they can do better than blizzard..
you guys are never happy with what you got if blizzard had made exactly what you say you would find some reasons to criticize it anyway
it's not like blizzard tried to give us new maps.... they literally said "no we're not doing that"
so since we don't like the miniature imbalanced maps, we're deciding to make our own ladder
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On January 04 2011 11:27 GizmoPT wrote:
sure is people still thinking they can do better than blizzard..
you guys are never happy with what you got if blizzard had made exactly what you say you would find some reasons to criticize it anyway
It wouldnt hurt so bad if they hadnt TAKEN AWAY everything that we already had that we all agreed we really liked.
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On January 04 2011 11:05 Keitzer wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2011 11:03 zyax wrote:
The only problem i see is, that this ladder won't be able the prevent people from joining that don't have this software or just want to check out the map.
If the system really kicks off you will have these maps on page 1 of popular custom maps and a lot of people will join them, even if they don't know about the system. This will result in every 2nd game getting dropped because the other person didn't know what this map was about.
I don't know if there is the possiblity to access sc2bank files in the lobby, if there is it could prevent this from happening.
hmm, i see your point, say, 50,000 people all trying to join some custom game and it keeps kicking them.. maybe in the description of the map tell them they have to get the program?
You could solve this by making it so that in game and in the description it urged the user to download the client so that they can track progress. To the other player, the player without the program would be a fresh account. So say the bottom rating is 1600 and you have moved up. Playing a person that doesn't have the client is like beating a 1600 player. The 1600 player doesn't start accumulating points/rise in the ladder until they download the client.
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i would totally rather play on this ladder
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awesome, sign me up. Can't wait to play on decent sized maps.
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This is exactly what will kill SC2... imo....
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On January 04 2011 15:18 PheNOM_ wrote:
This is exactly what will kill SC2... imo....
how would it kill it?
this is helping it if anything
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On January 04 2011 11:30 Keitzer wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2011 11:27 GizmoPT wrote:
sure is people still thinking they can do better than blizzard..
you guys are never happy with what you got if blizzard had made exactly what you say you would find some reasons to criticize it anyway it's not like blizzard tried to give us new maps.... they literally said "no we're not doing that"
they removed kulas and desert which everyone complained about and then added shakuras and jungle basin.
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On January 04 2011 15:20 Kojak21 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2011 15:18 PheNOM_ wrote:
This is exactly what will kill SC2... imo.... how would it kill it? this is helping it if anything
"Kill it" was bad word choice. The GSL is SC2's premier tournament. It is run by GOMTV with permission from Blizzard, don't know if that is the correct word choice, but because of this, all of these tournament games will be played on maps chosen/made by Blizzard, unlike BW tournaments which are run by kespa, on maps not made by Blizzard, without permission from Blizzard. Now if Blizzard actually started to care about the map pool, at this point they don't, and started to recruit "iCCUP or Korean" map makers or started to make better maps themselves that pleased players, then the GSL would be run on these maps. Now maybe this custom ladder would help to spur Blizzard to care about the maps and know how displeased we players are with the maps. I just think playing on the maps you like in Customs is the best way to support the using of new maps on the ladder and support Blizzard at the same time, which I think is our main responsibility as SC2 players.
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On January 04 2011 15:37 WniO wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2011 11:30 Keitzer wrote:On January 04 2011 11:27 GizmoPT wrote:
sure is people still thinking they can do better than blizzard..
you guys are never happy with what you got if blizzard had made exactly what you say you would find some reasons to criticize it anyway it's not like blizzard tried to give us new maps.... they literally said "no we're not doing that" they removed kulas and desert which everyone complained about and then added shakuras and jungle basin.
whoah... 2.... T_T
i feel you're being sarcastic, so i'll stay safe and go bm
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On January 04 2011 15:44 Keitzer wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2011 15:37 WniO wrote:On January 04 2011 11:30 Keitzer wrote:On January 04 2011 11:27 GizmoPT wrote:
sure is people still thinking they can do better than blizzard..
you guys are never happy with what you got if blizzard had made exactly what you say you would find some reasons to criticize it anyway it's not like blizzard tried to give us new maps.... they literally said "no we're not doing that" they removed kulas and desert which everyone complained about and then added shakuras and jungle basin. whoah... 2.... T_T i feel you're being sarcastic, so i'll stay safe and go bm
im just showing that what you said was incorrect. they added 2 maps. do you want them to add 10 every week or something?
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On January 04 2011 15:40 PheNOM_ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2011 15:20 Kojak21 wrote:On January 04 2011 15:18 PheNOM_ wrote:
This is exactly what will kill SC2... imo.... how would it kill it? this is helping it if anything "Kill it" was bad word choice. The GSL is SC2's premier tournament. It is run by GOMTV with permission from Blizzard, don't know if that is the correct word choice, but because of this, all of these tournament games will be played on maps chosen/made by Blizzard, unlike BW tournaments which are run by kespa, on maps not made by Blizzard, without permission from Blizzard. Now if Blizzard actually started to care about the map pool, at this point they don't, and started to recruit "iCCUP or Korean" map makers or started to make better maps themselves that pleased players, then the GSL would be run on these maps. Now maybe this custom ladder would help to spur Blizzard to care about the maps and know how displeased we players are with the maps. I just think playing on the maps you like in Customs is the best way to support the using of new maps on the ladder and support Blizzard at the same time, which I think is our main responsibility as SC2 players.
How about GSL is already experimenting with non ladder maps? Gisado was streaming that yesterday on GomTV. So I will rephrase Kojak21. How will this feature contradict / "kill it" what GOMTV or Blizzard is doing?
Oh and Blizzard doesn't care what maps are used by GOM btw. David Kim explicitly said in his interview (from some time ago) about GSL having the choice to use custom non ladder maps for GSL. It's just that there aren't suitable maps yet or has been found out by GOM to have them in their ladder pool yet. Hence they started testing new maps yesterday on the stream.
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On January 04 2011 15:47 WniO wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2011 15:44 Keitzer wrote:On January 04 2011 15:37 WniO wrote:On January 04 2011 11:30 Keitzer wrote:On January 04 2011 11:27 GizmoPT wrote:
sure is people still thinking they can do better than blizzard..
you guys are never happy with what you got if blizzard had made exactly what you say you would find some reasons to criticize it anyway it's not like blizzard tried to give us new maps.... they literally said "no we're not doing that" they removed kulas and desert which everyone complained about and then added shakuras and jungle basin. whoah... 2.... T_T i feel you're being sarcastic, so i'll stay safe and go bm im just showing that what you said was incorrect. they added 2 maps. do you want them to add 10 every week or something?
I, along with many others, would love to have more than 2 new maps since release....
say... 3 shift each month?
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