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WniO
United States2706 Posts
On January 04 2011 15:49 Keitzer wrote: I, along with many others, would love to have more than 2 new maps since release.... say... 3 shift each month? yeah for sure... they should soon. but they need to balance the game out completely first. | ||
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Keitzer
United States2509 Posts
On January 04 2011 15:53 WniO wrote: yeah for sure... they should soon. but they need to balance the game out completely first. which is probably one of the many reasons blizzard sees map pool as low priority atm | ||
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KiLL_ORdeR
United States1518 Posts
On January 04 2011 11:57 EnderPR wrote: You could solve this by making it so that in game and in the description it urged the user to download the client so that they can track progress. To the other player, the player without the program would be a fresh account. So say the bottom rating is 1600 and you have moved up. Playing a person that doesn't have the client is like beating a 1600 player. The 1600 player doesn't start accumulating points/rise in the ladder until they download the client. That won't work. People are retarded and will join the game anyway. I'm not saying it's a bad idea, but keep in mind how many people would join iCCup games without an antihack. The only way to realistically keep what has been said above from happening is to figure out a way that makes it impossible for people to join the game in the first place without the program, or to make it so that they can't see the map, although I don't know how you would do that since I'm not a very experienced programmer. Furthermore, how are you planning on matchmaking? is it going to be like the ladder is now, where you have an excludes list and beyond that get paired with people with comparable skill? or would it be similar to iCCup where you sort of had to pick and choose? personally I prefer the SC2 ladder system, as I've always gotten good matches quickly and easily. Finally, I'd suggest contacting the iCCup people. tofu and diamond regularly patrol the forums, and I bet they'll be able to direct you to some people who will be able to help. Also, even though it was already suggested, you should scour the map making forums and see who's out there and would want in. Finally if all goes well, I would suggest even contacting Blizzard, showing them a finished product, and ask if they would be willing to implement it into the system, so you can avoid the extensive workaround altogether. And always, good luck  | ||
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ktimekiller
United States690 Posts
On January 04 2011 15:57 Keitzer wrote: which is probably one of the many reasons blizzard sees map pool as low priority atm There are some relatively reasonable maps that are not on the ladder that are on the custom melee and team games suitable for 1v1 They are just trying to force small maps down everyone's throat | ||
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Zim23
United States1681 Posts
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KiLL_ORdeR
United States1518 Posts
On January 04 2011 15:57 Keitzer wrote: which is probably one of the many reasons blizzard sees map pool as low priority atm iCCup regularly shifts about 8 different maps around as maps of the week, EVERY WEEK! There's absolutely no reason why Blizzard can't draw from community made maps as well as their own (and make new ones, it's not like their map making team does anything else, besides maybe Blizzard DoTA atm) and make a rotation of 10 or so different maps every 2 weeks to a month. They fact that we've only had two new maps since beta is absolutely unnacceptable, not to mention the fact that they haven't even bothered to correct obvious mistakes in their maps, especially when we consider that it's some people's job to play this game and they get screwed out of money due to positional imbalances as well as a slew of minimal mistakes in the map design. Furthermore, maps should be the number one priority. It keeps the game fresh and keeps creativity in the game. Better designed maps also goes very far towards balancing the game, and is probably the most important piece in a balanced rts. there are many clear racial imbalances in BW, but most, if not all of these are erased due to good map design. Just think about it, if Blizzard is trying to balance the races based on the results of matches on maps that are clearly imbalanced and sub-par, then they are doing it wrong. | ||
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BondGamer
61 Posts
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
You agree that you will not, under any circumstances: d. Use any unauthorized third-party software that intercepts, “mines”, or otherwise collects information from or through the Game or the Service, including without limitation any software that reads areas of RAM used by the Game to store information; provided, however that Blizzard may, at its sole and absolute discretion, allow the use of certain third party user interfaces f. Host, provide or develop matchmaking services for the Game or intercept, emulate or redirect the communication protocols used by Blizzard in any way, for any purpose, including without limitation unauthorized play over the internet, network play (except as expressly authorized by Blizzard), or as part of content aggregation networks; Both sections DO state that blizzard can grant exceptions however. | ||
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Bswhunter
Australia954 Posts
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Arco
United States2090 Posts
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PheNOM_
United States417 Posts
On January 04 2011 15:47 shannn wrote: How about GSL is already experimenting with non ladder maps? Gisado was streaming that yesterday on GomTV. So I will rephrase Kojak21. How will this feature contradict / "kill it" what GOMTV or Blizzard is doing? Oh and Blizzard doesn't care what maps are used by GOM btw. David Kim explicitly said in his interview (from some time ago) about GSL having the choice to use custom non ladder maps for GSL. It's just that there aren't suitable maps yet or has been found out by GOM to have them in their ladder pool yet. Hence they started testing new maps yesterday on the stream. Shoot man, this is news to me. Good news. I eat my words. +1 for you my friend. | ||
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ParasitJonte
Sweden1768 Posts
On January 04 2011 16:27 PrinceXizor wrote: So. The sections of the EULA that would (possibly) take issue with this: You agree that you will not, under any circumstances: d. Use any unauthorized third-party software that intercepts, “mines”, or otherwise collects information from or through the Game or the Service, including without limitation any software that reads areas of RAM used by the Game to store information; provided, however that Blizzard may, at its sole and absolute discretion, allow the use of certain third party user interfaces f. Host, provide or develop matchmaking services for the Game or intercept, emulate or redirect the communication protocols used by Blizzard in any way, for any purpose, including without limitation unauthorized play over the internet, network play (except as expressly authorized by Blizzard), or as part of content aggregation networks; Both sections DO state that blizzard can grant exceptions however. From a programmer's perspective; I would say that this does not conflict with what the OP is suggesting. | ||
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Smigi
United States328 Posts
But its just an idea, so lets go and make this an effort and not stand around saying "wut a great idea". | ||
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Slago
Canada726 Posts
On January 04 2011 04:52 ChickenLips wrote: YEAH! This is what im talking about, what a great idea. I'm in full support of this agreed | ||
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BeMannerDuPenner
Germany5638 Posts
On January 04 2011 15:57 Keitzer wrote: which is probably one of the many reasons blizzard sees map pool as low priority atm "balance" and maps go hand in hand in a rts and even moreso in starcraft. example look at bw where some maps have hugely favored statistics in some matchups. the game was fine but the map sucked. now imagine people wouldve judged bws balance only by such maps and demanded balance changes. suddenly the almost perfect bw would get changed for the worse cause of shitty maps. | ||
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[Eternal]Phoenix
United States333 Posts
If this were implemented I would participate. | ||
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baskerville
541 Posts
you guys are really sweet... people should surf more "soundly" (sc2mapster hint hint!) hundreds of talented people are at work, granted mapmakers are still mostly "solo oriented", but the major sc2 crowd that everyone is being so optimist about, is bound to leave sc2... the op (who's hard at work but NEEDS help) and many vocal posters everywhere might agree that : who cares? A great community will sustain a competitive scene regardless of mass migration to a mod... at least blizz knows that... I hope you agree too. @kill order "you should scour the map making forums and see who's out there and would want in" no he shouldn't... he's preoccupied and busy enough, WE should be helping, not directing him how to do useless stuff... We should feel the gruntwork is our responsibility! edit: @Nizaris mapmaking chant + Show Spoiler + (barrin quote) | ||
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Nizaris
Belgium2230 Posts
This regardless if Blizzard will allow it or not. | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51065 Posts
You really should contact blizzard before doing anything. | ||
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Garrl
Scotland1978 Posts
On January 04 2011 16:32 Bswhunter wrote: Pfft, go for it OP. Worst comes to worst you get banned by blizzard, causing an uprising from the community. Replace "banned" with "sued". | ||
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