EPTCreating a Customladder similar to BW ICCup - Page 9
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50601 Posts
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FrostOtter
United States537 Posts
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CidO
United States695 Posts
@ the comments about "blizz not allowing /thread" if it's not modifying/writing any of the files that are just being read by the game already, then blizz technically would have no way of knowing what is going on. I wouldn't go as far as to say the current ladder system is "broke" or even to say it's "working", it definitely could see some improvements. Something like this Blizzard would be smart to pick up a few devs to work on, test it out or to let it go, see how it works if it works then integrate it into their system. There is already auto save on replays and auto naming etc based on the file. I see this as being possible. I want to believe that they have a lot of tricks up their sleeve this coming year. Blizz in the past 6 years has catered to everyone with WoW and already has done so with SC2. I wouldn't doubt some ladder improvements around the time Master/Grand Master hits to "improve" the game for the people outside of the Top 200 etc. | ||
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Perscienter
957 Posts
They neither care about transparency nor a proper map pool and balance. They don't even pay some students a few bucks to create sufficient manuals. It's all a farce. They crap on the educated players and want them to be misinformed consumer slaves, which are only allowed to watch professional players, which are picked by Blizzard. | ||
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FrostOtter
United States537 Posts
On January 07 2011 02:09 Perscienter wrote: Blizzard will impede such developments with all means in order to control and deceive the player base. They neither care about transparency nor a proper map pool and balance. They don't even pay some students a few bucks to create sufficient manuals. It's all a farce. They crap on the educated players and want them to be misinformed consumer slaves, which are only allowed to watch professional players, which are picked by Blizzard. These kind of posts are ridiculous. Blizzard, whether you believe it to be ineffective or not, is not evil. Attempting to cast it as some sort of villain for not catering to an entertainment audience in a way you find pleasing is insulting to those who actually have to deal with injustices around the world. | ||
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HardWater
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Djagulingu
Germany3605 Posts
If this project gets big, and people start playing on this server instead of bnet 2.0, and piracy is somehow blocked, i think blizz will fully support such a thing and they will just focus on making new patches and balancing units. But i'm afraid, i can't see a way to block piracy, so i don't think blizz will give support. | ||
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HerroPreaseTN
Norway71 Posts
 More maps or simply add new("new" as in the iCCup maps remade) maps to tournaments making people play new ones more =D *A function similar to the Save Replay or something. | ||
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Prfx
51 Posts
and @Djagulingu: It won't be a new server, it will run on Bnet 2.0. | ||
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ChickenLips
2912 Posts
Please make this happen. | ||
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Stropheum
United States1124 Posts
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Keitzer
United States2509 Posts
On January 07 2011 03:50 Djagulingu wrote: If this server only takes people who bought original copy of the game and prevents people with pirate copies, I don't think blizzard will be against this. You say that blizz doesn't give a damn to maps or any such things like LAN latency, cross realm, etc. as Tyler stated. If this project gets big, and people start playing on this server instead of bnet 2.0, and piracy is somehow blocked, i think blizz will fully support such a thing and they will just focus on making new patches and balancing units. But i'm afraid, i can't see a way to block piracy, so i don't think blizz will give support. it's not a separate server, good thing you read the OP. | ||
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Perscienter
957 Posts
On January 07 2011 02:48 FrostOtter wrote: These kind of posts are ridiculous. Blizzard, whether you believe it to be ineffective or not, is not evil. Attempting to cast it as some sort of villain for not catering to an entertainment audience in a way you find pleasing is insulting to those who actually have to deal with injustices around the world. Well I'm also deadly serious when it comes to entertainment (while sports and the like really belongs to the professional health, too) and I do not forget all the lies by Blizzard Activision, a 13.7b $ corporation, which could accomplish anything they want. | ||
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FrostOtter
United States537 Posts
On January 07 2011 05:42 Perscienter wrote: Well I'm also deadly serious when it comes to entertainment (while sports and the like really belongs to the professional health, too) and I do not forget all the lies by Blizzard Activision, a 13.7b $ corporation, which could accomplish anything they want. This kind of hyperbole serves no purpose. While I am not necessarily the biggest fan of modern capitalism, I am also not of the opinion that success = tyranny, or being predisposed toward tyranny. | ||
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Perscienter
957 Posts
Human beings as a zoon politikon have a duty to influence their companions and care about their environment. Such companies rather tend to not care for much except a few key numbers. That is a structural flaw I've observed. Blizzard is like a teacher who doesn't care if there is order in his classroom and this has a negative effect on the community. It's especially daunting, because in the software business they could easily apply structural solutions to most of the problems and even play around with new, breathtaking inventions. There are countless possibilities of well-thought-out map pool systems and Blizzard could bless us with tons of statistics and a slick, efficient user interface. Instead they've apparently chosen to go the cheap way of introducing phoney features once in a while. | ||
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FindingPride
United States1001 Posts
matchmaking is rly good in sc2 and in time there are going to be lots of new maps. I believe GSL is starting to incorporate maps outside of blizzards pool, so its only a matter of time.. and With blizzard being extremely vigilant in my honest opinion about there attention towards SC2 im sure maps will follow suit into the pool quickly | ||
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DonKey_
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
Honestly, part of the reason ICCUP worked is because blizzard didn't actively try to shut it down. | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
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Keitzer
United States2509 Posts
On January 07 2011 08:42 DonKey_ wrote: Well I'm just wondering, if this is against the terms of service what's to stop blizzard from picking up on the third party app with warden and banning players who use it? Honestly, part of the reason ICCUP worked is because blizzard didn't actively try to shut it down. and partly because you can illegally re-download BW and play on the iCCup servers where as this system REQUIRES the game to be bought AND to be played on the Blizzard servers.... | ||
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dementrio
678 Posts
- I do not enjoy the ladder anymore, because I've grown tired of using the same strategies again and again, which I am forced to use against people who use their own same strategies again and again, on the same maps, again and again. Will this solve everything? I doubt it, but it will bring me back some interest in the game. Will Blizzard solve this, maybe better? It can be, but why should I wait months, maybe years, if things can be better now? - without community mods and related development, the game will die much much sooner than it would otherwise. Saying that this kind of an effort will hurt the community downright stupid or in mala fide. Without a thriving mod scene there will simply be no community very soon; blizzard will let the game die when its focus will shift on the next game. imagine if the only multiplayer scene for brood war would have been battle.net. We probably wouldnt even have starcraft 2 today. | ||
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