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Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
December 29 2010 13:40 GMT
#101
On December 29 2010 15:44 Liquid`Ret wrote:
all these theories on idra ladder are untrue...he ladders to win games...just watch his stream...it also explains why zerg isnt in top10 and why there are less of us in the top200


I've seen him leave games at the start against Top 3 times in a row just because it was Top.
decaf
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria1797 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-29 13:48:02
December 29 2010 13:46 GMT
#102
On December 29 2010 22:39 koppik wrote:
IdrA dropping so much is just mainly due to a huge slump he had like two days ago:

[image loading]

So, it's not particularly worrying.

I somehow feel like this is invading his privacy. Anyone can have bad days in which youre pissed off and may leave prematurely. We have to wait for the patch anyways, cannon wall-ins are getting nerfed and there might be some tweaks regarding the easy wins for terran early game, we don't know yet.
IdrA will catch up eventually.

I also think he's more concerned about winning the gsl and not being 1st in the ladder, which doesn't get you any money.
kirkybaby
Profile Joined May 2010
Korea (South)781 Posts
December 29 2010 13:47 GMT
#103
On December 29 2010 21:45 ChickenLips wrote:
Please don't stop posting these weeklies, your analysis and being able to quickly discern the korean names remains very interesting

I want to know who the mystery Zerg is. So far I've found a few VODs from a tournament in November he plays a very cool style and does some amazing shit. His playstyle and reluctance to reveal his identity make me think he's either a very successful SC1 progamer or a Blizzard employee from KR.

oGsCarmel(P) vs 저승사자 (Z)
http://jupanda.tistory.com/424

oGsVicaL(P) vs 저승사자 (Z)
http://jupanda.tistory.com/422

SKit(T) vs 저승사자 (Z)
http://jupanda.tistory.com/419

Enjoy!

The korean site was pretty slow for me. I suggest clicking play on all the VODs (they pause automatically as they run out of buffer) and letting it load for a few hours until you can enjoy them all without interruption.


it translates to hell lion if that helps at all.
tournament history: 512th place in Altitude TLOpen #1
kirkybaby
Profile Joined May 2010
Korea (South)781 Posts
December 29 2010 13:48 GMT
#104
On December 29 2010 15:44 Liquid`Ret wrote:
all these theories on idra ladder are untrue...he ladders to win games...just watch his stream...it also explains why zerg isnt in top10 and why there are less of us in the top200


when does he stream? i've checked like 12 times and it's always offline.
tournament history: 512th place in Altitude TLOpen #1
inFeZa
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia556 Posts
December 29 2010 13:54 GMT
#105
I agree with idra about the mule idea.

also would love to see idra stream some off race, the point a poster made about the forcefields is interesting. I'm glad Idra doesnt play terran :D
Starcraft 2 in-game Observer. Follow me twitter.com/infeza
CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
December 29 2010 13:56 GMT
#106
On December 29 2010 22:46 decaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2010 22:39 koppik wrote:
IdrA dropping so much is just mainly due to a huge slump he had like two days ago:

[image loading]

So, it's not particularly worrying.

I somehow feel like this is invading his privacy. Anyone can have bad days in which youre pissed off and may leave prematurely. We have to wait for the patch anyways, cannon wall-ins are getting nerfed and there might be some tweaks regarding the easy wins for terran early game, we don't know yet.
IdrA will catch up eventually.

I also think he's more concerned about winning the gsl and not being 1st in the ladder, which doesn't get you any money.


I think its highly doubtful that Blizzard will do any other change than those we have seen on the PTR.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
December 29 2010 14:54 GMT
#107
On December 29 2010 15:07 confusedcrib wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2010 15:03 IdrA wrote:
On December 29 2010 14:59 Zooper31 wrote:
On December 29 2010 14:51 idonthinksobro wrote:
Well anyone who watched Idras stream should know why he is dropping so much. Whenever there is a little blunder he instantly leaves the game and starts a new one. I think people actually start to abuse the fact that he insta leaves after they get cannons/bunkers up.

Its ridicilous how much cheese you see on the Korean ladders - it doenst matter if you watch Huk, Idra or thewind - it seems to be chees-o-rado. No surprise that Terrans are on top of the ladder since they can cheese and recover the easiest.


I agree. He rages way too much before he should. You can't even tell him to not ragequit because those words are insta ban in chat lol. If he doesn't want people to talk about him ragequitting he should stop doing it.

its not ragequitting, community is just too ignorant to realize when a game is over.


But Idra we're pros like you too! The man has a point, seen lots of games where a top player quits and I have to think an extra minute or two to realize why it happened.

OT: I wonder why all the foreigner drops? Practicing in customs more than ladder or something?

EDIT: I like how once Idra posts all of a sudden everyone changes opinion.. So ya Idra sucks! He shouldn't rage quit what a newb! ect. ect.

you wonder why a lot of foreigner drops the week of christmas ? :D
Velocity`
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom343 Posts
December 29 2010 15:45 GMT
#108
IdrA, what changes would you make to Zerg to make the race more viable? I already read your scouting changes but what else would you change?
Neo.NEt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States785 Posts
December 29 2010 16:40 GMT
#109
On December 29 2010 22:48 kirkybaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2010 15:44 Liquid`Ret wrote:
all these theories on idra ladder are untrue...he ladders to win games...just watch his stream...it also explains why zerg isnt in top10 and why there are less of us in the top200


when does he stream? i've checked like 12 times and it's always offline.


Everytime I see him streaming it's past midnight central time. Since he's in Korea and I'm never up past midnight on the weekdays, he's probably streaming at like 3 or 4 in the morning.
Apologize.
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
December 29 2010 16:52 GMT
#110
On December 29 2010 22:48 kirkybaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2010 15:44 Liquid`Ret wrote:
all these theories on idra ladder are untrue...he ladders to win games...just watch his stream...it also explains why zerg isnt in top10 and why there are less of us in the top200


when does he stream? i've checked like 12 times and it's always offline.


Check his twitter he always tweets when the stream goes up. Twitter.com/idrajit ( i think)..that should give you a good idea of the times he streams.
|BW>Everything|Add me on star2 KR server TheMuTaL.675 for practice games :)|NEX clan| https://www.dotabuff.com/players/183104694
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
December 29 2010 16:59 GMT
#111
Maybe Idra would get a wider range of experience if he stayed in games he knew he would lose but were reasonably close. He needs to get better at stopping cheese/all-ins anyway if he wants to become a true S-class Bonjwa.
Jermstuddog
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2231 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-29 17:04:58
December 29 2010 17:03 GMT
#112
On December 30 2010 01:59 0neder wrote:
Maybe Idra would get a wider range of experience if he stayed in games he knew he would lose but were reasonably close. He needs to get better at stopping cheese/all-ins anyway if he wants to become a true S-class Bonjwa.


What is the point in "learning how to stop cheese/all-in" after it has already been executed?

Once the bunker/cannons are up, the learning opportunity is over. Your only option at that point is to attempt to claw your way back into a game from a majorly disadvantaged position. This might be decent for practicing your "playing on the fly" ability, but for refining small parts of your game and keeping yourself in a positive mind-frame, this will do nothing but ruin your vibe.


I really wish every random noob would stop telling the guy who makes money off of SC2 how he should be playing the game...
As it turns out, marines don't actually cost any money -Jinro
mols0n
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada388 Posts
December 29 2010 17:05 GMT
#113
Anyone else impressed with Marinekings win % on the korean ladder? its at like 72% that is ridic
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
December 29 2010 17:06 GMT
#114
On December 30 2010 02:03 Jermstuddog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2010 01:59 0neder wrote:
Maybe Idra would get a wider range of experience if he stayed in games he knew he would lose but were reasonably close. He needs to get better at stopping cheese/all-ins anyway if he wants to become a true S-class Bonjwa.


What is the point in "learning how to stop cheese/all-in" after it has already been executed?

Once the bunker/cannons are up, the learning opportunity is over. Your only option at that point is to attempt to claw your way back into a game from a majorly disadvantaged position. This might be decent for practicing your "playing on the fly" ability, but for refining small parts of your game and keeping yourself in a positive mind-frame, this will do nothing but ruin your vibe.


I really wish every random noob would stop telling the guy who makes money off of SC2 how he should be playing the game...


Exactly. If you have already failed to stop the cheese staying on is rather pointless. From then on your opponent should win and only way for him to not win is to make some massive mistake. This isn't really improving your play though since all you are doing is relying on his mistake. Far better to just go into the next game and try stop the cheese.
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
December 29 2010 17:08 GMT
#115
On December 30 2010 02:05 mols0n wrote:
Anyone else impressed with Marinekings win % on the korean ladder? its at like 72% that is ridic


not that hard if you remake an account
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
December 29 2010 17:12 GMT
#116
On December 30 2010 02:08 zerious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2010 02:05 mols0n wrote:
Anyone else impressed with Marinekings win % on the korean ladder? its at like 72% that is ridic


not that hard if you remake an account


Did you seriously just say that 72% win rate is not that hard? Just becuase you remake an account does not mean you can play scrubs for a majority of your games. You will be playing people in the 3k range in NO TIME. Don't be so ignorant please.
secret - never again
Krigwin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1130 Posts
December 29 2010 17:12 GMT
#117
Wait, there's a guy named Excrement? Excellent.

Always amusing to see Korean names. MagicalGirl? InvinciblePowerRanger?

The winner though has to be MyLifeForIU.
mols0n
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada388 Posts
December 29 2010 17:15 GMT
#118
On December 30 2010 02:12 Krigwin wrote:
Wait, there's a guy named Excrement? Excellent.

Always amusing to see Korean names. MagicalGirl? InvinciblePowerRanger?

The winner though has to be MyLifeForIU.


Everythink wents bitters from excrement. regards uncle dolan
takingbackoj
Profile Joined December 2010
United States684 Posts
December 29 2010 17:15 GMT
#119
I don't know if I would say im impressed with MK's win %. I'm more interested that his style of play can produce that high of a win percentage. I don't know if massing out zealots or zerglings would be nearly as effective no matter how well I controlled them.
Get the hell outta here Der Beek, your'e ruining my moment.
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-29 17:18:06
December 29 2010 17:16 GMT
#120
On December 30 2010 02:12 ch33psh33p wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2010 02:08 zerious wrote:
On December 30 2010 02:05 mols0n wrote:
Anyone else impressed with Marinekings win % on the korean ladder? its at like 72% that is ridic


not that hard if you remake an account


Did you seriously just say that 72% win rate is not that hard? Just becuase you remake an account does not mean you can play scrubs for a majority of your games. You will be playing people in the 3k range in NO TIME. Don't be so ignorant please.


I meant for a top player that it wouldn't be hard.

It's like BW pro-gamer smurfing and destroying everyone on Iccup.
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