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Morrow and Sjow Matchfixing? - Page 26
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Patriot.dlk
Sweden5462 Posts
I could care less about this since they were caught | ||
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MythicalMage
1360 Posts
On December 22 2010 19:48 Luvz wrote: Why don't they just play out the game as normal and if sjow wins he sends the computer to morrow? seems like a better idea doesnt it ? instead of juiceing up the whole community and throwing games. Because, effectively, the tournament organizers are cheap. | ||
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Rhokdar
Denmark240 Posts
On December 22 2010 19:50 MythicalMage wrote: Because, effectively, the tournament organizers are cheap. I dont see you sponsoring tournaments and a 6k computer.. | ||
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bibbaly
98 Posts
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lakritzc
Sweden164 Posts
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WellDuh
34 Posts
On December 22 2010 19:38 dakalro wrote: The only cheating here was from the tournament organizers. Bloody marketing ploy, get 2 great players, advertise a huge prize and make rules/games so nobody can with it. Shame on the cafe for doing this shit. I would have thought of the same thing in a heartbeat had I been friends with the only other person that could win the tournaments. If MorroW and Sjow are close enough in skill but way ahead of everyone else in the tournament then the chances are that together they'd win the majority of rounds. Being even would mean there would be an extremely low chance of anyone actually going home with the only reason they'd even agree to be there. The fact that in the first round of the tournament only one of them played is proof enough the "leaks" occured before any games were even played and so did the talk with the organizers (and they would have been dumb to let the players fix a winner for something they didn't want to give away). For something not casted and with no spectators that is rigged against the players from the start I would have said fuck em and go for the prize, maybe next time they would think twice before trying to get money out of 2 players' names and pay nothing for it. This is not players trying to cheat the community, this is sponsors trying to cheat the players for free publicity without actually giving anything in return. You make it sound as if they have anything better to do than play StarCraft 2 anyway. If I can choose what the first place award is - 50 USD or 6k USD PC, guess what I'm going to choose. Those evil tournament organizers, giving PC's for free. How dare they. On December 22 2010 19:33 Rhokdar wrote: It disgust me how many people, think it's okay, that they decide to fix a match. Really.. Indeed, the number of idiots is astounding. You know what? I think everyone who participates in this tournament except SjoW and MorroW must gather together and let one guy win 11 games. Then they all share the price. Lets see if matchfixing is ok for SjoW and MorroW then. I bet they are gonna be the first one to cry like babies. | ||
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MythicalMage
1360 Posts
On December 22 2010 19:54 Rhokdar wrote: I dont see you sponsoring tournaments and a 6k computer.. I don't see me with sponsors offering me money and a 6k computer. Really, if the tournament organizers were honest, they'd just have a collection of 18 small tournaments or whatever, then one big one for the 6k computer. | ||
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Askesis
216 Posts
On December 22 2010 19:38 dakalro wrote: The only cheating here was from the tournament organizers. Bloody marketing ploy, get 2 great players, advertise a huge prize and make rules/games so nobody can with it. Shame on the cafe for doing this shit. I would have thought of the same thing in a heartbeat had I been friends with the only other person that could win the tournaments. If MorroW and Sjow are close enough in skill but way ahead of everyone else in the tournament then the chances are that together they'd win the majority of rounds. Being even would mean there would be an extremely low chance of anyone actually going home with the only reason they'd even agree to be there. The fact that in the first round of the tournament only one of them played is proof enough the "leaks" occured before any games were even played and so did the talk with the organizers (and they would have been dumb to let the players fix a winner for something they didn't want to give away). For something not casted and with no spectators that is rigged against the players from the start I would have said fuck em and go for the prize, maybe next time they would think twice before trying to get money out of 2 players' names and pay nothing for it. This is not players trying to cheat the community, this is sponsors trying to cheat the players for free publicity without actually giving anything in return. So organizers should just lower the prize pool and just take away any possible prizes? Will that make you happy? They offer a very good prize, and all you can do is complain? They clearly state that the computer will be given away if someone can win 11 of 18 tournaments. I think everybody knows that winning 11 of 18 is a very hard task. You are acting like they pulled some kind of bait-and-switch when the prize and winning conditions are clearly stated. The only victims here are people who are the victims of their own stupidity. If someone thought winning 11 of 18 tournaments would be easy, that is their own dumb fault. | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
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KonohaFlash
Canada1590 Posts
On December 22 2010 19:57 IdrA wrote: poor tournament design to set up the prize structure that way and if they're that much better than everyone else competing that they can control the outcomes itd be stupid of them not to The Gracken has spoken.  | ||
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ParasitJonte
Sweden1768 Posts
On December 22 2010 19:57 IdrA wrote: poor tournament design to set up the prize structure that way and if they're that much better than everyone else competing that they can control the outcomes itd be stupid of them not to Perhaps I should sign up for the idra fanclub afterall :o! | ||
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bibbaly
98 Posts
On December 22 2010 19:57 IdrA wrote: poor tournament design to set up the prize structure that way and if they're that much better than everyone else competing that they can control the outcomes itd be stupid of them not to and be stupid enough to be caught | ||
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smileyyy
Germany1816 Posts
caught in what ?... | ||
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dtz
5834 Posts
By asking the tournament organizers , that also means that they are not gaming the system and ensuring that the final games are legitimate. Now that only one of them will participate, this is basically the same as what they had planned in the beginning except that probably another finalist will face sjow or morrow in the final. | ||
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decemberscalm
United States1353 Posts
Which they werent | ||
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Licmyobelisk
Philippines3682 Posts
On December 22 2010 19:57 IdrA wrote: poor tournament design to set up the prize structure that way and if they're that much better than everyone else competing that they can control the outcomes itd be stupid of them not to So you're trying to say that they should just grab the opportunity and don't give a fuck what the others are saying here or it's more of a flaw design with the system and there is nothing unethical with "matchfixing" for the prize? | ||
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cnas
Sweden640 Posts
On December 22 2010 19:57 IdrA wrote: poor tournament design to set up the prize structure that way and if they're that much better than everyone else competing that they can control the outcomes itd be stupid of them not to Yeah, kind of like EG Masters. Imagine you were to compete with iNcontrol or someone else in the team. It must be hard for the audience to not think its a fixed game if they win the laptop. Anyway, some tournaments are made up like this, this community should be able to handle it without turning to fraudulence | ||
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Frankon
3054 Posts
On December 22 2010 19:57 IdrA wrote: poor tournament design to set up the prize structure that way and if they're that much better than everyone else competing that they can control the outcomes itd be stupid of them not to You picking all the map for EG masters laptop series is any diffrent? ;-P | ||
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Askesis
216 Posts
On December 22 2010 19:44 TheBanana wrote: Well if they actually were going to meet up in the final everytime, the victory is now guaranteed by not colluding and SjoW simply not playing at all. The house loses the prize and a top player. Oh, I understand that. Here's a post from me earlier: On December 22 2010 18:02 Askesis wrote: What's funniest about this is that now they appear to be doing what they should have been doing all along. If those two are clearly so much better than everybody else that both of them are pretty much a lock for the finals of every tournament, they should just have one of them play and clean up and have the other one not participate in the tournament at all. That way, they get their big prize, and in no way can be accused of match-fixing. So the house loses the prize just like they would have anyway, but at least now they don't have a fixed final match in all 18 tournaments. | ||
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dakalro
Romania525 Posts
On December 22 2010 19:56 Askesis wrote: So organizers should just lower the prize pool and just take away any possible prizes? Will that make you happy? They offer a very good prize, and all you can do is complain? They clearly state that the computer will be given away if someone can win 11 of 18 tournaments. I think everybody knows that winning 11 of 18 is a very hard task. You are acting like they pulled some kind of bait-and-switch when the prize and winning conditions are clearly stated. The only victims here are people who are the victims of their own stupidity. If someone thought winning 11 of 18 tournaments would be easy, that is their own dumb fault. There is no prize pool, it was never intended to give the 4k PC away, it's there just for show, to attract the 2 pros and a ton of idiot customers. That's the entire point of it. Put on the huge fireworks show, present some huge diamond to attract the crowd, get the money and run, no actual cost for it. It may not be bait and switch exactly but it's damn close to it, chances of someone winning 11/18 with 2 huge favorites and chance that they would lose 1-2 finals are so small it's worth the risk. How do you think casinos make money? Think about it this way. The chance that one of them would get the PC at even skill is once every 2k+ tournaments like this ....................................................... | ||
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