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Silidons
United States2813 Posts
On December 04 2010 14:35 happyness wrote: Better yet, why not make it so storm only hits ground units? But I seriously doubt they are going to change it. Blizz is very stubborn about their unnecessary random nerfs. this is because any competent player with air units would take little damage from storm.... FG is unmicroable. | ||
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TyPsi5
United States204 Posts
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jisaeltl
83 Posts
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Dromar
United States2145 Posts
On December 04 2010 14:13 jdseemoreglass wrote: I can't complain about infestors... I am top 500 in NA and I've never used an infestor once... They are a crap unit in my opinion. Mutas? Just move your army to their base and the mutas are helpless. Two incredibly awesome changes: SCV repair priority, no pylon blocking ramp. But where is multi-viewer replays? Come on, this one is obvious... Yeah I don't use infestors either. I'm not ranked as high, but I've done fine so far without them. Infestation pit is basically the new queens nest for me now. But about the pylon blocking ramp. Does it actually mean it can't be done? I interpreted it to say that they fixed an asymmetry where a ramp facing a certain direction couldn't be blocked off totally by 2 pylons. Maybe I misread? | ||
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DoomFox
Canada51 Posts
This is funny because I've been a zerg player since the Beta started and never knew you could train units like this. I've always just pressed each unit production key one at a time. To all the people complaining about having to press z,z,z,z,z,z,z,z,z,z 15+ times in a row during a production cycle: it's not that hard. Or at least it doesn't seem hard to me because I'm used to it, having thought that was the only way to make units :O | ||
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Rorschach
United States623 Posts
On December 04 2010 14:30 angryzor wrote: can you still place a wall of forcefields by holding f and clicking? ^Anyone can confirm this with spell casters? | ||
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Kyrth
United States101 Posts
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Phaded
Australia579 Posts
On December 04 2010 14:39 Dromar wrote: But about the pylon blocking ramp. Does it actually mean it can't be done? I interpreted it to say that they fixed an asymmetry where a ramp facing a certain direction couldn't be blocked off totally by 2 pylons. Maybe I misread? You need 3 pylons to block the ramp fully. Check the screenshots in the OP to see where the buildable areas have changed | ||
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Twitches
Canada365 Posts
On December 04 2010 14:29 Wfat wrote: I play zerg (2100 diamond if someone from Blizzard is reading this) so only really two balance changes stand out - (i) fungal growth and (ii) hotkey use on larvae, but in general I think that SC2 in its current state is very balanced and am very much against Blizzard patching the game so quickly. The only thing that Blizzard needed to patch from a balance point of view was better, fairer, more competitive maps. Regarding the two balance changes that I'm against: (i) Something that no one mentioned from the 20 pages that I read was that fungal growth is perhaps the best ability in SC2 from a spectators and players point of view. It is a super fun ability and is amazing from a spectators point of view when a good one lands on a bunch of units e.g. mutalisks or phoenixes (similar to a 'here come the speed banes!!' moment). It is completely nonsensical to remove a great moment from the game, especially in its current balanced state. (ii) Having hotkeys not morph larvae will directly cause medical problems for a ridiculous amount of players and I agree with many who have voiced there concerns here. I think that was my first reaction to the "hot key bug." Thanks Blizz.. I totally want carpel tunnel. | ||
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TheGrimace
United States929 Posts
On December 04 2010 14:27 TheGrimace wrote: I didn't test yet, will in a few, but I asked someonee (IN CHAT CHANNELS!!) and he said you could still hold shift and spam away, so toss is safe apparently. Ok, so a few things. It seems that any instance of keyboard repeat has been removed. The initial press is the only one that registers. This means: Holding down the hotkey to create your worker early game no longer ensures you build the unit immediately when you can afford it. Holding down the button to build a building while your unit travels no longer works. Spamming units, for all races, no longer works (aside from shift spam for protoss). Holding shift for Protoss is fine since shift queues actions. So it's Shift + Unit Hotkey and you can spam away from warpgates. Gateways are now one press = one unit. I'm not a huge fan of this change now, I've relied on the repeat to keep my timings more crisp. I hate that they decided to change an aspect of the game my muscle memory and mind adapted to. Quite an annoying thing, I'm sure this will take a while to unlearn. I've always followed my worker with my cursor to make sure I can place the building underneath him as soon as I could afford it.  | ||
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lofung
Hong Kong298 Posts
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Existor
Russian Federation4295 Posts
On December 04 2010 13:25 justiceknight wrote: wtf??? Did you have american SC2 client (i.e. US) ? | ||
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bokeevboke
Singapore1674 Posts
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lol.Donkament
Malta50 Posts
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Deleted User 108965
1096 Posts
1. the holding down key thing - comparing it to the warp gate thing is pretty silly. you have to click individually every time, just like we do now, same for all spells. each is an individual click 2. fungal growth thing - now you know how it feels to have to deal with muta harass as other races. you'll just have to learn to prepare for it just like other races deep breaths people | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
Like others, my only issue with an otherwise great patch (on it's face) is the fungal change. I don't know why they would change this in a patch they buff phoenixes. This really hurts zerg in stopping phoenix harass, makes stopping medivacs much harder and makes ZvZ muta wars (tho this isn't necc bad imo). Imo the better change would be to just make it so fungal merely snares, rather than roots, flying units if they think it is OP. I don't play zerg but the larva hotkey change seems completely unnecessary. | ||
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-orb-
United States5770 Posts
Master League and chat channels look to be the 2 best parts of this upcoming patch from what I've seen | ||
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Garnet
Vietnam9042 Posts
• Autocast state for abilities is reset to the default state when unit ownership is permanently changed. I'm confused. What do these two changes mean? | ||
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XXXSmOke
United States1333 Posts
Chat channels feel so good, I can actully talk with people now, quite amazing. | ||
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omnic
United States188 Posts
On December 04 2010 10:58 FinestHour wrote: How did a buff make the unit more useless? Feel free to elaborate. FG can no longer hit air units which it could before. Its clearly a nerf. | ||
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