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anyways im happy after reading this that my 6000 dpi mouse should arrive later today.. this shouldnt prove an issue with mouse speed for me then ^^Mouse sensitivity of 6/11 is not 50% - Page 3
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Salvarias
Denmark231 Posts
anyways im happy after reading this that my 6000 dpi mouse should arrive later today.. this shouldnt prove an issue with mouse speed for me then ^^ | ||
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Ptur
Ukraine85 Posts
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Salvarias
Denmark231 Posts
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papaz
Sweden4149 Posts
On November 02 2010 18:40 Ptur wrote: so pretty much what ur saying is that 51% is actually more accurate than 50%? Yes | ||
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GIMJ
Canada46 Posts
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nemukud
Romania42 Posts
I don't want to sound rude, but the way he tries to explain it is overcomplicated and to some extent wrong, therefore leading to misunderstandings. 1. It has nothing to do with the windows mouse settings 2. Starcraft 2 sensitivity is not n/100, it is n/101 So this part of the op... windows sensitivity is n/11 starcraft2 sensitivity is n/100 100/11 = 9.0909090909090909... If you want you sc2 sensitivity to be the same as your windows sensitivity.. windows sens x 9.09 = sc2 sens 6 x 9.09 = 54.54 (55% when rounded) ... is wrong and misleading. I think you should remove it from the op. Anyway I tried and it verifies that you can have different mouse sensitivity even if in SC2 you are at 50%. Now this doesn't mean that 50% it is not 1:1. It might be or might not, depending on where the slider is. If you never moved it probably it is ok. Now just to make sure you have the right settings: 1: Go to Control Panel > Mouse > Pointer Options 2: disable "Echance pointer precision" 3: set the slider to the middle notch (the sixth) (These 3 steppes are optional, probably it won't affect the SC 2 experience but it will certainly affect your desktop and maybe other games experience. Although those are recommended settings for any gamer, some may find it hard to adapt if they used other settings for a long time) 4: for those that can change their mouse DPI go in SC 2 and set the sensitivity to 51% (52%,53% will work also as they will be rounded back to 50%) and afterwards change your mouse DPI till you are comfortable with the sensitivity. If you can't change the mouse DPI than you'll have to adjust it from the SC 2 slider. If you want a certain DPI equivalent I assume you can do the math somewhat similar to the way you do it with the windows mouse sensitivity slider. (this is not verified but I think this is the way it is working, just take it with a grain of salt or do some tests to see if it verifies) In windows if you use the 9th notch and you have a 800dpi mouse you'll end up with 9/6*800 = 1200dpi. The same gos in SC 2 if you set it to 80% and you have a 800dpi mouse you'll end up with 80/50*800 = 1280dpi. But considering the op there are 2 more things to consider: 1. There are not 101 different sensitivities (0..100%), the sensitivity will be rounded by the system to a multiple of 5 so the values you should use to calculate your dpi should be multiple of 5 also. 2. The SC 2 user interface use another rounding by itself. So if you actually select, lets say, 49.6 with the slider the interface will display 50% (rounding it up) but the value used by the system will still be 49.6 and rounded down to 45%. So it will use 45% although it will display 50% in the game menu. In order to avoid this, add +1 to the value you ended up with, after you calculate the value needed to get your dpi equivalent. As an example if you have an 800dpi mouse but you want to play at 1000dpi you will need 65% (65/50*800=1040 - the closest value to 100dpi you can get to). But just to make sure it will actually be 65%, in the game menu set it to 66% (65+1). This was a lot more difficult to explain than I thought. I just hope it is clear for everyone. And not least, great findings, gg to the op. | ||
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Achilles
Canada385 Posts
Edit: I see this has already been addressed. Thank you for clearing this up. | ||
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zaMNal
Mongolia385 Posts
On November 02 2010 14:08 hide.X wrote: ... Another thing: if you're like me and have a 400dpi mouse (logitech mini wheel optical, etc.), I've found 8/11 to be a good setting (8/11 is not as bad as 7/11 or 9/11, and definitely 11/11, because 8/11 is an exact 1:2 ratio [skips every 2nd pixel in order to move twice as fast], and nothing in sc2 is 1 pixel =p) 8 x 9.09 = 72.72 ... can u clarify few things: - why is 8/11 better than 6/11 or 7/11? - 8/11 is 1:2 ratio of what? where does the 1:2 come from? - and is that true only for 400dpi? or is 8/11 better than 6/11 and 7/11 for 800dpi also? | ||
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LostDevil
Fiji283 Posts
If I set it to 51-54% it will be terribly slow and theres no increasing the DPI. Therefore the only way not to skip pixels will be to increase the DPI in this situation by going back to using my deathadder? | ||
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papaz
Sweden4149 Posts
On November 02 2010 23:33 LostDevil wrote: So I have a Razer Salmosa set to 1800 DPI, 6/11 windows and like 63-64% in game this whole time. If I set it to 51-54% it will be terribly slow and theres no increasing the DPI. Therefore the only way not to skip pixels will be to increase the DPI in this situation by going back to using my deathadder? Yes | ||
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LostDevil
Fiji283 Posts
Ok, thank you! | ||
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nemukud
Romania42 Posts
On November 02 2010 23:33 LostDevil wrote: So I have a Razer Salmosa set to 1800 DPI, 6/11 windows and like 63-64% in game this whole time. If I set it to 51-54% it will be terribly slow and theres no increasing the DPI. Therefore the only way not to skip pixels will be to increase the DPI in this situation by going back to using my deathadder? To play at the same speed but with the 51% sens in game you will need a mouse with about 2100dpi (2160dpi to be more precise). But I think it is more important to play with the mouse you are used to than those pixels it might skip. Also that sens is kind of high. A lower sens will give you better control. I use 1200 or 1400 (don't remember exactly :D) at a 1:1 ratio - 6th notch in win, 50% (now 51% :D) in SC 2. | ||
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habermas
United Kingdom304 Posts
The correct way of doing this is: 1. Set windows mouse sensitivity to default/6 for 1:1 tracking. 2. Set your mouse for the highest dpi possible, for maximum precision. 3. Adjust sensitivity in-game to match your preference. Regarding the last point a good way of doing this is to chose three points, e.g. a unit, a mineral patch and a building and try to click between them as fast as possible. If you notice you tend to click behind the object often - lower your sensitivity, if you can't reach the object immediately and click too close to the previous one, make it higher. Repeat until you can perfectly click on the objects. Again in-game sensitivity is a matter of preference. For more info see: http://www.overclock.net/mice/173255-cs-s-mouse-optimization-guide.html | ||
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Mizzles
33 Posts
On November 02 2010 23:58 habermas wrote: Oh, this thread is wrong. No one should force people to play at particular game sensitivity, it's purely a matter of preference! Adjusting in-game sensitivity won't directly affect your mouse precision. Again in-game sensitivity is a matter of preference. For more info see: http://www.overclock.net/mice/173255-cs-s-mouse-optimization-guide.html That thread and the advice you are giving is relevant to Counterstrike:Source. If you read the original post you will notice that the OP claims that the situation is different in SC2 and the in game sensitivity setting overrides the windows setting, such that the windows setting is irrelevant. As such if you want to change the speed of your mouse while maintaining a 1:1 ratio the only way to do it is by adjusting the DPI of your mouse with the SC2 sensitivity set to 51-54%. Now I can't confirm or deny the OP's claims, but if what he says about SC2 overriding windows settings is correct, then what he states is perfectly valid. If however you don't consider 1:1 to be important in SC2 (which is perfectly conceivable considering nothing approaches one pixel in size), then you don't really have to care about this much at all and should just adjust your sensitivity using whatever tools you have, i.e. if you can't adjust the DPI of your mouse, just move the slider. However, if you can adjust the DPI of your mouse to the level you want there is almost no reason to not have 1:1. | ||
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sleepingdog
Austria6145 Posts
On November 02 2010 15:15 Liquid`HuK wrote: edit: my settings of right now - computer control panel: 7/11 in game: 67% Since I play with a logitech optical as well, since my unfortunately more succesful wc3-days - I've found a pretty big improvement in comfort after switching to 6/11 in game 50% (well, now I will try 52% and see what it does) and changing the speed solely with the DPI through the logitech driver settings In a nutshell: not having the 6/11 and in game ~50% (now I've learned: ~52%) screws up the precision a bit, you don't want that. Notice that it is perfectly possible to achieve the exact same "speed" this way, it just needs an hour or few of playing around with the settings. Definitely worth it. | ||
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SilverPotato
United States560 Posts
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leetSmithy
2 Posts
What settings should I use in SC, Razer software ? I'm so confused ((( | ||
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Bob300
United States505 Posts
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grimm42
Germany7 Posts
On November 03 2010 08:41 Bob300 wrote: I am really confused but thats ok, i dont see why 1:1 is important if you get used to something different. As far as I understand this issue, 1:1 means that you won't skip any pixels, which means that you have better precision. To get this 1:1 ratio within sc2 you need to set the slider to 51%-54%. To adjust the actual speed, you just change the dpi of your mouse. | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
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