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shaNk
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada124 Posts
May 08 2011 19:38 GMT
#201
Your not gonna suck or get better because you miss a few pixels when u move your mouse. just go with what feels right to you, just like many top tier players do.
NrGshaNk op nrg)
Cakezor
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden22 Posts
May 08 2011 21:41 GMT
#202
I play with 6/11, 400dpi Logitech MX518, and sensitivity 67%. I could set it down to 54% and use high scroll speed but I prefer 67%. It works for me.
안녕하세요
Beardfish
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States525 Posts
May 08 2011 21:52 GMT
#203
On May 08 2011 07:13 Gunman_csz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 03:23 Beardfish wrote:
On May 07 2011 22:28 Gunman_csz wrote:
everybody should be getting red pixels. after the last patch the settings at (51-54percent) are no longer being saved in the variable file. hence you have change it to 51-54percent every single time before you open sc2.

Can you please elaborate?


Well before you set the sensitivity at 51,52,53, or 54 percent in either the variable file or through the menu to get the true 50:50, but now it doesn't work because even if you have them set to those specific numbers the sc2 client just rounds them up to decimal after every restart. for-example 51 will turn into 51.3334, which is not what you want !

The only solution is to manually enter 51-54 in the variable before opening sc2 client, because once you close the client the settings get rounded to decimals.

When I set my sensitivity to 51 in game, and then exit, I find 'mousesensitivity=0.505050' in my variables.txt.

Is this right? Or should I change it to 'mousesensitivity=0.500000' and set variables.txt to read-only?

I don't know why you're getting strange values like 0.513334.
Allbinator
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada12 Posts
May 09 2011 15:10 GMT
#204
this is messed up! Is it really going to make a damn difference if i up my in-game sensitivity from 51% to 56%??? Like who wants to buy my deathadder3500 off me so i can buy the mamba?
Allbinator
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada12 Posts
May 09 2011 15:13 GMT
#205
Really SC2 community? How do we optimize our mice?
Allbinator
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada12 Posts
May 10 2011 01:15 GMT
#206
One more question to you guys... How's the double click action on Logitech g9(x)?

Please don't reply and just say, yea it's great a great mouse. If anyone's tested mice and knows the differences between it and razer mice like the deathadder, please let me know.
Allbinator
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada12 Posts
May 20 2011 18:48 GMT
#207
screw the logitech or r.a.t. 7. Get the Mamba. BEST right hand palm grip mouse ever if you hold it right, or the Deathadder if its dpi is enough but the Mamba's side buttons work like a dream y'all!
Larryx
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland148 Posts
July 16 2011 14:00 GMT
#208
Can anyone help me?

I got Razer Mamba, using 1800 dpi 5/11 in windows and 51% in SC
in that case my starcraft is faster than windows and i dont want him to be
So if i understand correctly i should make windows sens 6/11 and lower the dpi right?

Thanks in advance!
MANA & NERCHIO HWAITING!
Tiazi
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands761 Posts
July 16 2011 14:04 GMT
#209
On July 16 2011 23:00 Larryx wrote:
Can anyone help me?

I got Razer Mamba, using 1800 dpi 5/11 in windows and 51% in SC
in that case my starcraft is faster than windows and i dont want him to be
So if i understand correctly i should make windows sens 6/11 and lower the dpi right?

Thanks in advance!


51% in SC is the same as 6/11 windows.

So its pretty logical your mouse feels faster in sc2 than in windows.
"A brilliant yet deluded man once said, 'Introduce a little anarchy. Upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos.' Gumiho is that agent of chaos." -monk
Larryx
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland148 Posts
July 16 2011 14:08 GMT
#210
thanks mate, i tryed 6/11 and lowered dpi to 1600 and its lot better <3
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Carush
Profile Joined June 2011
United States356 Posts
July 16 2011 15:12 GMT
#211
how does the sensitivity on your razer driver have to do with accuracy?

for instance, if i have my windows at 6/11 sc2 at 51-54 but my razer death adder sensitivity setting at 7/10 does that affect my accuracy and skip pixels or not?
xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
July 16 2011 15:29 GMT
#212
Honestly, for accuracy mouse settings arent that important. The real issue is framerate. To get good accuracy and fast response a 120 Hz lcd is a minimum(with GPU being able to saturate it of course), and a CRT with 150 or 180 Hz is even better.
Aah thats the stuff..
lorkac
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2297 Posts
July 16 2011 15:29 GMT
#213
I just got a razor specter--I was wondering how the switch in the bottom works with SC2 sensitivity?
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Ziktomini
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom377 Posts
July 16 2011 15:30 GMT
#214
Easier solution, just put everything to 100% and learn to control that speed, that's what I do at least.
Carush
Profile Joined June 2011
United States356 Posts
July 16 2011 20:59 GMT
#215
On July 17 2011 00:30 Ziktomini wrote:
Easier solution, just put everything to 100% and learn to control that speed, that's what I do at least.

meh with the deathadder you can only go from 900 to 1800
900 being way to slow
and 1800 being way to fast
better start saving up for a mamba! (you can customize the dpi to intervals of 100) :D
Bonisaur
Profile Joined October 2010
United States26 Posts
July 24 2011 23:55 GMT
#216
On July 17 2011 00:30 Ziktomini wrote:
Easier solution, just put everything to 100% and learn to control that speed, that's what I do at least.


Some of the first posts discuss that when you set certain settings to max, such as the Windows Mouse speed, you loose efficiency and accuracy. Not the "its going faster you can't control it well" accuracy, but software accuracy.

Anyway I used to have my mouse set with precise control on, 6/11 at 51% in game with my RAT 7 at 1900. After reading the information in this article, I turned off precise control, left it at 6/11 and 51% and switched it back to 1600. This feels like learning to play Starcraft 2 all over again. If you skateboard, longboard, surf, or snowboard, it feels like I went from goofy stance to regular.
FHC Nex
Profile Joined July 2011
Bulgaria44 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 16:37:41
July 25 2011 01:09 GMT
#217
Edit: Check next post before bashing me. I was kinda wrong



Hello everyone, Razer Naga user checking in.

I saw this topic several months ago but i didnt noticed that it suggests that we should tune down our dpi settings and leave windows sensitivity at 6/11, starcraft at 51%.


First of all, i am using 3/11 mouse sensitivity in Windows control panel.
I am playing with 23% (well it looks like everything between 21 and 24% is the same) Starcraft sensitivty.
My Naga is configured so it works at 5600 dpi (max for this mouse).

I am trying to find a reason to decrease my ACTUAL mouse sensitivity. Yes, by putting the sc/windows-one so low i am "cutting" from it, but imo in the worst case i will break even when using the max resolution. In the best case i will "pull" slightly ahead.

I would be happy if anyone can convince me why max DPI settings is inferior to reducing your Mouse sensitivity. This increases the precision of the recorded mouse movements and cuts from the cursor movement. Doesnt sacrifice any sensitivity

Not trying to argue or something, im just up for a discussion.



Edit: I know that i need to put my SC2 sensitivity slider to 26-29% in order to have equal sc2 and windows sensitivity. As i understand, the windows mouse setting doesnt affect SC2 in any way, so making them 'even' is just a matter of personal prefference.
I might try setting up my SC2 sensitivity a bit higher and see how it works for me (that way i may get a better feel for the mouse if its equally fast in Windows and Starcraft).
"It seems that whenever a Terran wins its because "Terran OP" not because the player played well. "Terran OP" has been around since beta and its became an excuse for losses"
FHC Nex
Profile Joined July 2011
Bulgaria44 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 16:53:44
July 25 2011 16:52 GMT
#218
So i downloaded MouseMovementRecorder. The thing i didnt realised when i wrote my previous post, is that if the sensitivity is below 50% (6/11, 51% in sc etc) it CUTS from your cursor movement. The mouse moves, the cursor doesnt.

Holy **** ...

I set my sensitivity to 1500 dpi and it feels as good as before (well its slightly faster but i will get used to it). To the people with razer mouses that have pre-fixed dpi settings (800, 1600 and 3200 for example) i would suggest using 1600 (should be good) and if its too fast - decreasing the sensitivity in starcraft to 41-44 / 46-49%. The mouse wont skip pixels, it will drop some movements but it wont be as bad as on 23% (hahah i dont know how ive played on this, 3/4 of the movements were being cut off from the game..).

I still get red (skipping pixels) when i do some strange movements with the mouse but it happens every 200 iterations or so, its normal i guess? I mean, all i see is normal (not red/green) lines but every now and then a red line appears.
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Well before you set the sensitivity at 51,52,53, or 54 percent in either the variable file or through the menu to get the true 50:50, but now it doesn't work because even if you have them set to those specific numbers the sc2 client just rounds them up to decimal after every restart. for-example 51 will turn into 51.3334, which is not what you want !

The only solution is to manually enter 51-54 in the variable before opening sc2 client, because once you close the client the settings get rounded to decimals.


This really worries me. I checked my Variables, it shows 50.505050 so its ok. Is this fixed or the value will change the next time i launch/close starcraft?
"It seems that whenever a Terran wins its because "Terran OP" not because the player played well. "Terran OP" has been around since beta and its became an excuse for losses"
Hyaena
Profile Joined June 2011
Croatia17 Posts
August 01 2011 13:08 GMT
#219
Hello,

I'm currently playing with Abyssus set on 1800dpi (6/11 sensitivity in windows, 52% in SC2 (0.51.... in variables)) on 1680x1050 screen resoultion and it feels little too much. So if someone can comment if this is good way to effectively reduce dpi without hurting precision (no pixel skipping):

mouse - 1800dpi
windows sensitivity - 5/11, that's 4:3
SC2 sensitivity - 43%, 0.424242 in variables file ... according to first post in this thread it should be 5*9.09>45%, but that sensitivity is closer to 1:1 than 4:3 is. According to this post, it should be between 41% and 44% for 4:3.
final result - 1800*3/4=1350dpi

Mouse Movement Recorder results:
- moving mouse vertically or horizontally (in SC2 and windows) results in one in a four pointer movement green lines - I think it means mouse movement isn't recognized as pointer movement.
- moving mouse results in bigger number of green lines, but I assume it's because one in a four green line appears for both coordinates that aren't necessarily occurring at the same time.

Problem is that sometimes red lines appear, more frequently in SC2 (around once in a twenty). Should I be worried about that and go back to 1800dpi (1:1), or should I stick to effective 1350dpi (which feels good) because i haven't lost that much precision?

Thanks!
FHC Nex
Profile Joined July 2011
Bulgaria44 Posts
August 03 2011 15:37 GMT
#220
Stick to what feels comfortable to you. Tbh green lines shouldnt be a big problem, you wont ever skip and it isnt much either. I think i also got 1 red line in every 30 but its negligible.
"It seems that whenever a Terran wins its because "Terran OP" not because the player played well. "Terran OP" has been around since beta and its became an excuse for losses"
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