EPTMouse sensitivity of 6/11 is not 50% - Page 2
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ShadowDrgn
United States2497 Posts
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RaiZ
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On November 02 2010 14:42 hide.X wrote: In-game setting overrides windows setting. Try setting windows to 1/11 and sc to 100%, etc. If you have some other mouse driver (eg. razer), it complicates things. Not sure to understand there... I mean sure windows setting overides it, but what about the dpi ? I mean i've just recently bought another Logitech (g500) and toyed a lot with the settings. It seems like the X and Y dpi are kept in the sc2 settings. And i swear i could feel the difference betwen 58 to 59% and 59 to 60%... Unless i read it wrong ? | ||
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professorjoak
318 Posts
On November 02 2010 15:42 ShivaN wrote: This thread confuses me. I use a Logitech G1, which is a 400dpi mouse. I've always used it with 8/11 sensitivity in windows. As for SC2 though, I've been play with it set to 80% as this has felt close to what my mouse moves like on the desktop. When I move it down to 55% or whatever like you suggest, it's way too slow, or am I missing something? What's the optimal percentage to use for a 400dpi mouse? An 8/11 sensitivity in Windows is equivalent to a 2:1 pixel ratio. Meaning that for every "dot" your mouse detects itself moving, you will move 2 pixels in Windows. In other words, your 8/11 setting makes it impossible for you to ever hit even-numbered pixels on your computer screen, but if your resolution is sufficiently high you probably don't care because the alternative is that you need to move your 400 dpi mouse almost 5 inches to cover 1920 pixels. For those of us who don't have very low dpi mice, the most obvious desirable criterion for mouse settings is that for every "dot" the mouse detects itself moving, you move 1 pixel in the OS. For Windows/Starcraft, you get this setting by putting your Windows sensitivity to 6/11 and your Starcraft sensitivity to 51-54%. Then, knowing your screen resolution, you adjust your dpi so it takes however many inches to cover the screen length as you feel comfortable with. | ||
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papaz
Sweden4149 Posts
On November 02 2010 15:45 Adebisi wrote: Can anyone confirm? This is all really confusing but basically you want 6/11 in windows, 51-54% in game, and then adjust the DPI on your mouse to decide exactly on sensitivity? Yes, exactly. | ||
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samsonsrad
Canada27 Posts
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papaz
Sweden4149 Posts
On November 02 2010 15:18 sk` wrote: Huk: Windows should be 6, the middle one. SC2 should be 51% to 54%. If you want a 1:1 pixel ration that is. But judging from Huk's settings he wants a faster mouse speed and if he isn't buying a mouse where he can change the dpi this advice is not for him. | ||
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sk`
Japan442 Posts
Exactly... if he wants faster, then a 1600dpi would be smart. You never want anything other than 1:1. | ||
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Faraday
United States553 Posts
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papaz
Sweden4149 Posts
On November 02 2010 16:55 sk` wrote: Papaz: Exactly... if he wants faster, then a 1600dpi would be smart. You never want anything other than 1:1. Yea, you're right. HuK just seemed to want to stick with his logitech optical (I assumed not able to change dpi) but still wanted a faster mouse cursor so he doesn't have an option besides pixel skipping. | ||
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Deleted User 101379
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And which unit has a size of 1px so you _have to_ hit this pixel precisely to select it? | ||
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Faraday
United States553 Posts
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Solis_Fonte
63 Posts
On November 02 2010 15:42 ShivaN wrote: This thread confuses me. I use a Logitech G1, which is a 400dpi mouse. I've always used it with 8/11 sensitivity in windows. As for SC2 though, I've been play with it set to 80% as this has felt close to what my mouse moves like on the desktop. When I move it down to 55% or whatever like you suggest, it's way too slow, or am I missing something? What's the optimal percentage to use for a 400dpi mouse? In G1 800dpi | ||
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hide.X
Australia105 Posts
The reason why multiples of 5% are inconsistent: - There are fractions of percentages on the slider, however the displayed whole number percentage only changes when you hit a new whole number, whereas the computer rounds the numbers---so, you are at 49%.. you slide it up to 50%... then you slide it left a few pixels. It displays "50%", however you've actually set it to 49.1%. The computer rounds it down to 49 and you see "50". CONFUSED PEOPLE: People seem to be confused. I'll try to summarise some stuff. - Your windows sensitivity doesn't matter at all. SC ignores it. - There are only 20 mouse settings in starcraft2 (1--5, 5--10, 10--15, etc.), even though there more than 100 notches on the slider. - for 1:1 ratio of mouse movement to cursor movement, set your in-game sensitivity to anything between 51%--54% -- not 50% as people previously thought (although it sort of is 50%; it's just that you can't see what the decimal point on the number is so it's safer to use 51--54) (that is, 51%, 52%, 53%, and 54% are all exactly the same mouse speed). If you just want 1:1 pixel ratio of mouse movement to cursor movement stop here. If however 51--54 is too slow, you should sacrifice the negligible 1 or 2 pixels of accuracy for a comfortable mouse speed. However, be careful that you avoid multiples of 5 because there are invisible decimal places that can make a big difference. (Theres no such thing as "exactly 80%". You're either playing at about 76 or about 84). | ||
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hide.X
Australia105 Posts
On November 02 2010 15:15 Liquid`HuK wrote: wow this thread is very interesting but very confusing for my tiny mouse like brain so apologies ahead of time. I always have problems at lan and always just wing my mouse sensitivity because sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't; and it seems to vary per computers. What your saying is my in-game sensitivity should NOT be x5 ? or is it my computer mouse sensitivity shouldn't be x5? or mystery option 3? edit: my settings of right now - computer control panel: 7/11 in game: 67% and my mouse is an basic logitech optical mouse It should NOT be x5. Yours is perfectly fine as it is. Maybe the LAN computers have different screen resolutions :/ | ||
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Faraday
United States553 Posts
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hide.X
Australia105 Posts
On November 02 2010 17:28 Faraday wrote: Just a clarification, if I want 1:1, and set ingame to say 54%, DPI doesnt affect this in any way? Because DPI allows you to set your speed at your liking? Then all you have to do Is set the ingame speed at 54% and that's it! :D Yes. That's why they introduced adjustable DPI settings in the first place. EDIT: Protip: This is often the case with audio devices too. It's preferable to set the computer volume to 50% and adjust the volume using the knobs, rather than having the knob on a low setting and the PC on 100% or something (and vice versa with high knob low % setting) -- because in some programs/implementations/interfaces you would sacrifice sound quality because it is boosting/supressing the sound artificially. | ||
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Faraday
United States553 Posts
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JustinHit
United States196 Posts
So much that I use so much more wrist movement at 54% and it hurts  | ||
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Faraday
United States553 Posts
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ktimekiller
United States690 Posts
Much thanks | ||
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