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CuSToM
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1478 Posts
March 14 2011 22:48 GMT
#381
I don't like the term coinflip when describing PvP. There are two things you are trying to accomplish in a PvP: defend the four gate rush and cut corners to get tech up. It's an extremely volatile and unforgiving matchup and just a shitfest in general. If you're not four gating then you are defending it while trying to get tech up, it's not like you will straight up die from a sheer rock paper scissors moment if you don't four gate and your opponent does. Inca's first match against Huk is a perfect example of what you are trying to do in PvP, infact Inca's play in that game is textbook PvP as far as I am concerned.

Actually I want to talk more about this when we record next because something interesting happened to me in one of my PvP games and I have been having a lot of success with it (not losing 4 of every 5 PvPs I play...). Rumors say the match up is about to drastically change soon and I think so!
Team SCV Life #1
RxBorG
Profile Joined July 2010
United States505 Posts
March 14 2011 23:03 GMT
#382
You been going Phoenix Marty?
[QUOTE][B]On June 27 2011 03:31 insult wrote:[/B] Haypro hasn't been doing well lately, but when he's in good form he's definitely among the top 10 swedish zerg players. [b][red]User was temp banned for this post.[/red][/b][/QUOTE]
CuSToM
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1478 Posts
March 14 2011 23:26 GMT
#383
You been peeking at my match history Borg? :0

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RxBorG
Profile Joined July 2010
United States505 Posts
March 15 2011 00:30 GMT
#384
Lol. Nope. Nony said on state of the game that pvp was starting to change at the higher levels to a Phoenix fight. And InControl told him that it wouldn't change lol
[QUOTE][B]On June 27 2011 03:31 insult wrote:[/B] Haypro hasn't been doing well lately, but when he's in good form he's definitely among the top 10 swedish zerg players. [b][red]User was temp banned for this post.[/red][/b][/QUOTE]
Carson
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada820 Posts
March 15 2011 00:36 GMT
#385
On March 15 2011 09:30 Martyandborg wrote:
Lol. Nope. Nony said on state of the game that pvp was starting to change at the higher levels to a Phoenix fight. And InControl told him that it wouldn't change lol


Actually, I think it was tyler who disagreed, in a chill and only tastefully condescending way

I hope pvp is going to change a bit, if only to reduce the number of 4 gates I encounter
"You have to remember something: Everybody pities the weak; jealousy you have to earn." Arnold Schwarzenegger
RxBorG
Profile Joined July 2010
United States505 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 02:45:33
March 15 2011 02:02 GMT
#386
Lol I'm retarded and mixed them up
[QUOTE][B]On June 27 2011 03:31 insult wrote:[/B] Haypro hasn't been doing well lately, but when he's in good form he's definitely among the top 10 swedish zerg players. [b][red]User was temp banned for this post.[/red][/b][/QUOTE]
Carson
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada820 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 22:59:46
March 15 2011 11:23 GMT
#387
Holy moly, july and rainbow both have application videos. If they get in I foresee some domination of the nasl by startale!
Maybe torch will apply too...




"You have to remember something: Everybody pities the weak; jealousy you have to earn." Arnold Schwarzenegger
Skrelt
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands306 Posts
March 15 2011 12:33 GMT
#388
On March 15 2011 09:36 Carson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 09:30 Martyandborg wrote:
Lol. Nope. Nony said on state of the game that pvp was starting to change at the higher levels to a Phoenix fight. And InControl told him that it wouldn't change lol


Actually, I think it was tyler who disagreed, in a chill and only tastefully condescending way

I hope pvp is going to change a bit, if only to reduce the number of 4 gates I encounter

This, Tyler didnt know it for sure, and inconTROL was talking about it turning into a pheonix fight, cause of people like kiwikaki who played around with it
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RxBorG
Profile Joined July 2010
United States505 Posts
March 16 2011 17:54 GMT
#389
Lol poor rainbow, he's on such a slump these days. If he goes into nasl, he will just get embarrassed by A guy like cats or painuser
[QUOTE][B]On June 27 2011 03:31 insult wrote:[/B] Haypro hasn't been doing well lately, but when he's in good form he's definitely among the top 10 swedish zerg players. [b][red]User was temp banned for this post.[/red][/b][/QUOTE]
Carson
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada820 Posts
March 16 2011 19:59 GMT
#390
You think so? I would dare say that rainbow vs [any foreigner] would be a sad day for 95% of foreigners.

GSL 1 he was so solid, he was taking Terran to a scary level of play, he just needs to go against less skilled opponents
"You have to remember something: Everybody pities the weak; jealousy you have to earn." Arnold Schwarzenegger
RxBorG
Profile Joined July 2010
United States505 Posts
March 16 2011 20:40 GMT
#391
Lol That's likely, but honestly, he has looked so bad the last couple gsl's
[QUOTE][B]On June 27 2011 03:31 insult wrote:[/B] Haypro hasn't been doing well lately, but when he's in good form he's definitely among the top 10 swedish zerg players. [b][red]User was temp banned for this post.[/red][/b][/QUOTE]
CuSToM
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1478 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 20:53:44
March 16 2011 20:46 GMT
#392
On March 17 2011 02:54 Martyandborg wrote:
Lol poor rainbow, he's on such a slump these days. If he goes into nasl, he will just get embarrassed by A guy like cats or painuser


I don't think you could be anymore wrong. Please remember that Moon and Ace, who dropped out of Code A, took the first two spots at IEM, a foreign tournament. Rainbow, or anyone from a GSL Korean team would rape NASL. There's a difference between slumping and being bad; someone at Rainbow's caliber wouldn't lose in a BOx format to either of the guys mentioned. Why do you think so many people want to limit Korean players in NASL when the Korean Starcraft II community has done everything possible to opening its doors to foreign players and a foreign audience?

edit: Also, there's NASL apps for Squirtle, Bomber, Ace and Virus too on that youtube channel. I've been saying for a while Korea as a whole should just send Bomber by himself and show NASL what's up.
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RxBorG
Profile Joined July 2010
United States505 Posts
March 16 2011 22:38 GMT
#393
True claims haha. You win. I retract my statement lol. Didn't think of it in that way :/
[QUOTE][B]On June 27 2011 03:31 insult wrote:[/B] Haypro hasn't been doing well lately, but when he's in good form he's definitely among the top 10 swedish zerg players. [b][red]User was temp banned for this post.[/red][/b][/QUOTE]
Carson
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada820 Posts
March 16 2011 23:45 GMT
#394
I'm excited for tonights episode with all the SC news that's been happening lately!

What do you guys think about barring any foreigners who dominate from the NASL as well??

Lol such a funny debate.
"You have to remember something: Everybody pities the weak; jealousy you have to earn." Arnold Schwarzenegger
CuSToM
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1478 Posts
March 17 2011 01:23 GMT
#395
No one else likes college basketball? :0

http://games.espn.go.com/tcmen/en/group?groupID=88823&entryID=1680200
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A Wet Shamwow
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1590 Posts
March 17 2011 01:43 GMT
#396
On March 17 2011 10:23 last light wrote:
No one else likes college basketball? :0

http://games.espn.go.com/tcmen/en/group?groupID=88823&entryID=1680200

I like basketball its just i have no clue about who to pick, also as the second place team in the fantasy league, i do not think that a host should be able to claim a prize.
Also i posted this on reddit, but noone upvoted it
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Candles
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom103 Posts
March 17 2011 03:01 GMT
#397
On March 17 2011 05:46 last light wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2011 02:54 Martyandborg wrote:
Lol poor rainbow, he's on such a slump these days. If he goes into nasl, he will just get embarrassed by A guy like cats or painuser


I don't think you could be anymore wrong. Please remember that Moon and Ace, who dropped out of Code A, took the first two spots at IEM, a foreign tournament. Rainbow, or anyone from a GSL Korean team would rape NASL. There's a difference between slumping and being bad; someone at Rainbow's caliber wouldn't lose in a BOx format to either of the guys mentioned. Why do you think so many people want to limit Korean players in NASL when the Korean Starcraft II community has done everything possible to opening its doors to foreign players and a foreign audience?

edit: Also, there's NASL apps for Squirtle, Bomber, Ace and Virus too on that youtube channel. I've been saying for a while Korea as a whole should just send Bomber by himself and show NASL what's up.



Not to be one to make excuses and obviously overall Korean players are better than Foreign players, but I think the IEM is a misleading example.

QXC went 0-5 and didnt even play like we know he can. I heard Day9 say he started school and wasnt playing much/any SC2 at the moment.

The European players all qualified 5 months ago and the game has moved on a lot since then. Suggesting the same players who were great 5 months ago will be great now seems unlikely.

Some people said Idra was jet lagged and even if he wasnt he's moving house and having a huge change in his life. Once he's settled I think his mind will be in a much sounder place to play.

I know it's poor form to make excuses and cling onto hope, but I imagine the IEM dominance by those particular players isnt indicative of the class divide between Foreigners and Koreans. Koreans are still better, but I don't think Ace on his best day is better than any of the top 20 foreigners on their best day.
RxBorG
Profile Joined July 2010
United States505 Posts
March 17 2011 03:07 GMT
#398
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/User:Martyandborg/TSL3Bracket

come make fun of my bracket!
[QUOTE][B]On June 27 2011 03:31 insult wrote:[/B] Haypro hasn't been doing well lately, but when he's in good form he's definitely among the top 10 swedish zerg players. [b][red]User was temp banned for this post.[/red][/b][/QUOTE]
CuSToM
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1478 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-17 03:18:29
March 17 2011 03:18 GMT
#399
you picked MVP over Genius after Genius made MVP look silly lol
Team SCV Life #1
RxBorG
Profile Joined July 2010
United States505 Posts
March 17 2011 03:21 GMT
#400
thanks for the spoiler.......
[QUOTE][B]On June 27 2011 03:31 insult wrote:[/B] Haypro hasn't been doing well lately, but when he's in good form he's definitely among the top 10 swedish zerg players. [b][red]User was temp banned for this post.[/red][/b][/QUOTE]
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