Another problem has came up though after writing my las sentence...points are kinda being inflated over time....
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EliteAzn
United States661 Posts
Another problem has came up though after writing my las sentence...points are kinda being inflated over time.... | ||
bubblegumbo
Taiwan1296 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
In my opinion, i would rather ban a bunch of people than deal with that kind of organizational mess and drama. Although, i am naturally unorganized i suppose. | ||
rally_point
Canada458 Posts
I know I'm not good enough to post anything strategy related, and have thus never posted in the strategy forum. But I do absolutely enjoy reading about well defined, practical strategies, and have very high appreciation and respect for being able to dig through these strategies. I think one problem that TL has in this respect is the exclusion of certain people. I would guess they would want the site accessible to all sorts of players, and a feature like this may discourage some of the community from coming to TL. Well maybe not... maybe more people will come to TL because of the consistent quality of their strategy forum haha. I'm sure the staff will act in the best interest of TL in the end | ||
Najda
United States3765 Posts
Also I think points are a good way to do it. True it's not the best indicator of skill, but we do want a good amount of people posting on there. If you're even above 1000 points you will have a basic understanding of the game, or at least understand you don't know everything, and that's enough to add to a discussion. | ||
Sideburn
United States442 Posts
Honestly, I'm so confused when people say how "elitist" or "high power" TL is. I'm new to SC2 and was very excited to find out about an exclusive group of elitist players who had high power discussions. You can't imagine my disappointment when I actually came to the site. People really talk up TL and how awesome, pro, and elitist it is far too much. I have no doubt but that it was this way in the past, but SC2 seems to have brought a slew of new people to this board that makes it hardly any better than any other SC2 forum, it just has more pretense and arrogance. | ||
Foreplay
United States1154 Posts
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Duka08
3391 Posts
Great idea. Seems elitist at first, but I don't think most good/high-diamond (a group I am not a part of, mind you) posters have problems with lower level players looking specifically for help and have an open mind willing to learn. These aren't the players this is about, and said players shouldn't take offense. It's more about the stubborn bullheaded low level players that consistently make issues out of the same thing and refuse to acknowledge any help or suggestions from players that seriously know what they're doing. | ||
BenKen
United States860 Posts
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SaintsTheMetal
United States45 Posts
At first the people with 1000+ were amazing, when the GSL started someone had 1600 points and it was ridiculous, and now two weeks later two players (HuK and Fenix) have 2k points, and 34 players have at least 1800!! However, I do support a read-only forum of actual pros though. | ||
starcraft911
Korea (South)1263 Posts
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xtfftc
United Kingdom2343 Posts
P.S. It's not about banning people. Why should people who give their opinions in a well-mannered way be banned? It's just that EVERY thread gets 10+ pages for minutes. No one in their right mind will read through all this. Face it, TL is actually the Blizzard forums for SC2. | ||
Half
United States2554 Posts
It stratifies the community. TL.net is amazing because we have such a strong community, and because we have a distinct culture. How many people who don't play WoW anymore still browse Arenajunkies? Like, two. Yet TL.net has masses of frequent visitors who no longer play starcraft, or even game in general, yet still come back for the sites distinctive culture. Being diamond 1500 doesn't make you special on TL.net. Only two groups of people exist on tl.net, pros and joes (and contributors, oh yeah). Being "Diamond 1500" doesn't give you any more right to comment then being "diamond 1000" or "diamond 500". More strict moderation would be how you solve this problem. Going back to what I said before, a single consolidated place for actual pros with deep understanding of the game to post would be fine as to sort a standard for the level of discussion we want on TL.net (Idra rage notwithstanding), but it wouldn't really be a solution to what the OP is looking for, as it would be too niche (basically just limited to the pros that frequent TL.net and other renown players/contributors.) A "Diamond 1200" forum would be utter crap. | ||
knyttym
United States5797 Posts
On September 21 2010 11:35 starcraft911 wrote: i wouldn't mind the idea, but 1200 isn't exactly that high... my girlfriend has been 1200+ and im sure she could get there again once she gets used to playing terran.. just switched from P. Hmm.. When was the last time you went clubbing? | ||
Randomaccount#77123
United States5003 Posts
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PeT[uK]
United States412 Posts
On September 21 2010 10:14 whitelynx wrote: I know, huh. Pretty retarded crowd SC2 brought in, and not just the people OP was complaining about. And 1200 is nowhere near C, lol. I'm like D and got 1000 diamond easy. no i'm saying that prohibiting newer players from conversations is against the community aspect of TL. This is suppose to be a welcoming environment, what kind of message does this send to them? This is probably not the best place to do this kind of shit. Do it on another site | ||
billyX333
United States1360 Posts
1200 was yesterday's 1400, this awful ladder system is so inflated in points right now any donk can get to 1200 | ||
Goibon
New Zealand8185 Posts
So i think instead of framing it as "make a new forum for good players" you should instead "make a forum for baddies". The main forum should be for good players to talk about this game and anyone who wants to post there should earn the right. That should be the default imo. Then if i'm allowed to read the main quality form and possibly learn a thing or two, then great. If you're kind enough to make a forum for people with crap ratings, then that's great too. There won't be any benefit to it unless some decent players are willing to argue with a dozen bronze people. But if they want to do that, then that's marvellous. If baddies are willing to admit they suck and try and learn from decent players willing to share the knowledge, then that's awesome. Take your site back. edit: and i use the term baddies with all due respect. | ||
Masq
Canada1792 Posts
1200 was "pro" 2 months ago, 1800 will be a decent rating tomorrow, and a month from now likely over 2400. I'm sure you can see where I'm going with this. As the lower players improve, the low/mid tier diamond players will eventually suck rating from them, and the cycle continues. | ||
billyX333
United States1360 Posts
On September 21 2010 13:11 PeT[uK] wrote: no i'm saying that prohibiting newer players from conversations is against the community aspect of TL. This is suppose to be a welcoming environment, what kind of message does this send to them? This is probably not the best place to do this kind of shit. Do it on another site what kind of message? a message that should already exist in their minds but clearly it doesnt. if you dont know what you're talking about then don't pretend to. we are adults not pre schoolers. its not like we need to protect the fragile psyche of noobs (who, apparently, dont realize they're noobs yet) i know when i begin playing a new competitive game, i keep my mouth quiet until i feel like im a very experienced/skilled player. | ||
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