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Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
October 16 2010 13:25 GMT
#661
TL is fine as it is. Mods and banlings will keep the forum clean.
Believing in what lies ahead. | That which we call a rose, by any other name would smell as sweet.
Madkipz
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway1643 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-16 13:32:27
October 16 2010 13:30 GMT
#662
On October 16 2010 20:48 DarQraven wrote:
I am still amazed at the general attitude here that skill at Starcraft means you're somehow a better person than others. Some of the most closed-minded jerks I've met here were high diamond players.
While we're on stereotypes:
Lower league players: lower skills, humility from being beaten time and time again.
Upper league players: higher skills, massive ego derived from their ranking.
See? I can do it too.

If the upper league players feel they need a separate restricted subforum to be able to discuss things, go ahead. I won't mind. I just think they'll be severely disappointed with the amount of change in post quality.


quality posts? i havent found many in the strategy forum. ;D

atleast the ability to view someones rating without much trouble would be nice because not only do you then know where the advice is coming from but you can also give it the proper amount of consideration <,<
"Mudkip"
Krigwin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1130 Posts
October 16 2010 18:17 GMT
#663
Whoa, whoa, let's not draw the comparison to Arena Junkies here. I see a lot of people here who have never been to AJ, so let me tell ya, it's complete trash.

It's always been garbage even back when it was first created (and in fact I used to play with one of the admins back pre-BC and he was a stoner douchebag then and I can't imagine anyone less qualified to run such a website regardless of their glad titles) and full of drama between elite players. Rampant flaming of unpopular players like Serennia and Affix, all kinds of drama over match fixing and point selling, even when you had the occasional actual balance discussion thread they rarely went anywhere because of all the accusations of class/comp bias.

The principal mistake being made is assuming players who are higher-ranked automatically have an encyclopedic knowledge of the game and are more likely to make constructive posts. While I'm not going to argue the opposite and would actually be in favor of such a board experiment just to see if it can be effectively ran, you really can't say for certain either way and it's foolish to make the assumption based on purely just ladder ranking.
numLoCK
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1416 Posts
October 16 2010 18:25 GMT
#664
Check this out, one of my favorite old threads that taught me a ton about Arb play in PvT for BW.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=99492&currentpage=3
Check out Ver's post. This thread was started by a high level player, and quite a few lesser players were trying to give him advice that wasn't really all that helpful. But Ver here offers a wonderful and insightful mini-essay about the specific problems and why things work like they do.
Page 1 and 2 also have some really great posts by high level players. I would love to see a section of SC2's strategy forum that had a skill requirement AND a very harsh ban policy (like strat forum bans, but just for the special strat forum.) High level discussion is always very helpful for players like us.
s2pid_loser
Profile Joined March 2010
United States699 Posts
October 16 2010 18:30 GMT
#665
great idea! totally support this
i hate immature people who have nothing better to do but talk nonsense and grab attention
Et Ducit Mundum Per Luce
lyAsakura
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1414 Posts
October 16 2010 18:30 GMT
#666
This idea is completely retarded.
WeMade FOX would be a deadly SC2 team.
thezergk
Profile Joined October 2009
United States492 Posts
October 16 2010 18:31 GMT
#667
it should be at least 1600 imo
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Kagami-sama
Profile Joined September 2010
460 Posts
October 16 2010 18:31 GMT
#668
I think it's a good idea...

...But what about Random players?
scDeluX
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada1341 Posts
October 16 2010 18:32 GMT
#669
Its been discussed much and I don't think it will happend, it would be great tho
Brood War is forever
sixghost
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2096 Posts
October 16 2010 18:34 GMT
#670
On October 16 2010 19:50 Madkipz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2010 19:40 bluesoup wrote:
On October 16 2010 19:13 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Some player with less skill give sometimes better advice than super skilled player, because most of the time super skilled players give answer for super skilled players.


I completely agree with whole above post. Having elite forum will only serve the elite few. Right now, for verified, solid advices, there is always Liquipedia.

I think TL admins/mods should make that decision and publish it as official, whatever it is. The elitist requests are becoming more boredom. If Admins decide it is good overall for TL to have closed forum just for the elite few, than so be it. It will be a clear message that people with lower skills, like ones older, with <100apm, and less skilled overall should not contribute their ideas...

However as stated few pages before

rating =/= skills;
rating =/= understanding of the game;
rating =/= knowledge;
rating =/= ability to put that knowledge/understanding into words.

I do however agree that rating could be linked to TL profile and displayed for those who wish to have it enabled. SC2Ranks world rank is not inflatable as bnet points and would serve as good reference. It will enable audience to judge the posts for themselves.


Though people who are 1200 diamond are not elite lol it wont help us out much because our idols wont be posting there. There is a reason the request for a forum for above diamond players only (around 4000 per server) Because anyone below are not remotely competent at the game.

Im 1400 and daim i suck. I suck so much that if i ever decided to compile a list of replays and present it to the strategy forum the advice from copper - platinum is most likely not going to elevate my play. (brb posting.) xD.

The OP was made 25 days ago, which means a 1200 rating when the OP was made is an 1800 rating now.
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OPSavioR
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1465 Posts
October 16 2010 18:40 GMT
#671
Let everyone read imo
i dunno lol
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
October 16 2010 18:58 GMT
#672
You know, as nazish as it is, I agree with the OP.
I mean, the sc2 strategy forums have never been very good besides a few key threads that get derailed (even compared to scbw strategy, which was only as good as it was because chill had a lot of work on his hands), at least it would be nice to strain out the imbalance whining posts.
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SichuanPanda
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1542 Posts
October 16 2010 19:06 GMT
#673
On October 17 2010 03:58 Comeh wrote:
You know, as nazish as it is, I agree with the OP.
I mean, the sc2 strategy forums have never been very good besides a few key threads that get derailed (even compared to scbw strategy, which was only as good as it was because chill had a lot of work on his hands), at least it would be nice to strain out the imbalance whining posts.


I think the problem isn't the posts but the people reading them who dismiss any post that uses someones personal opinion as 'imbalance whining' 80% of the posts are on legitimate topics and while some OPs might not be as finely worded as we might like they are far from whining. Also 1200 point Diamond is not pro, I'm 1200 point Diamond and I suck still.
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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 16 2010 19:11 GMT
#674
I am like 900 points diamond because i have no time to play ladder, but i practice against my brothers and they are 1600+ and i own them pretty easy...
jugding people because of their ladderrank is stupid.
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
October 16 2010 19:16 GMT
#675
The bar should be set lower than 1200. There shouldn't be a 'pros only' forum, but there definitely should be a bar so that we know if a player has actually played a few games before posting. Thus I think Diamond division, any ranking would be fine, since it's not that hard to get to, but people at least have to grind out the games to get it.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
nkwd
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States99 Posts
October 16 2010 19:19 GMT
#676
the average point are increasing due to bonus points gained every week, will u increasing the baseline every week?
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Madkipz
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway1643 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-16 19:21:07
October 16 2010 19:19 GMT
#677
Maybe this is the wrong approach, a strategy guide sub forum that contains good appreciated guides or threads such as the Artosis replay pack just to sort of have it gathered in one place would be awesome.

The strategy forum section will eventually be cleaned up by banlings and good moderation and overall we should probably be glad for whatever feedback we can get.
"Mudkip"
Flannman
Profile Joined September 2010
United States17 Posts
October 16 2010 19:22 GMT
#678
I don't think there should be any point regulations, but just strictly limit people from platinum down so only diamond players can post. There are a lot of players who don't have a ton of time playing, but are fairly knowledgeable of the game and I wouldn't think excluding them based off of points is a good idea. Just by accept diamond ranks will weed out majority of the scrubs. And it doesn't take that long to get to diamond so the good players should be able to get there even if they don't have a lot of time. Just my 2 cents though.
zoniusalexandr
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States39 Posts
October 16 2010 19:23 GMT
#679
It's tough to say exactly what the cutoff should be because of the bonus points. If your MMR is perfectly accurate, you should win exactly 50% of your games and lose 50%, meaning no net change in points over time. But because you get bonus points when you win, your points would go up by about 1 point every 2 hours. A "good" player who is keeping their bonus pool empty, but is only winning 50% of their games can expect to see their points score increase by 100 every week. If you had played since release without getting any better, you should still have about 1000ish points right now, and that's only going to keep increasing. If you set a fixed benchmark of 1200, that might eliminate scrubs right now, but not in a few weeks.

Also, this is further compounded by the fact that blizzard likes to match you up against players who are slightly better than you, and beating them gives you more points (and losing leads to a smaller loss of points). If you play more riskier styles, this might lead you to get a higher point total than a more conservative player of the same skill, even though both of your MMRs are the same.
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