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Casta
Denmark234 Posts
This would give the moderators a little break and you could even give them a warning that some players were consistently making terrible posts and bans/warnings could be placed. Nevertheless I think that this method would help a topic not to drown in flamewars/ balance whining as those subjects would eventually be thumbed down. Making subforum based on ladderpoints on battle.net is a terrible idea imo. | ||
CanucksJC
Canada1241 Posts
like for example, to counter banshees, i might suggest templars so like 200 ppl rage and thumb it down.... now what? | ||
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Shockk
Germany2269 Posts
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JeanLuc
Canada377 Posts
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Donger
United States147 Posts
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Casta
Denmark234 Posts
On October 16 2010 16:56 CanucksJC wrote: but many players are strongly opinionated about different things... like for example, to counter banshees, i might suggest templars so like 200 ppl rage and thumb it down.... now what? Some geuine ideas might get thumbed down due to ignorance, but the thumbs up or down should not be used as a method of whether you agreed upon the post or not, it should be a rate of the quality of the post and if it was on topic or not. There will always be idiots who will abuse the system though, but that is a matter of moderating. | ||
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whomybuddy
United States620 Posts
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LuCiD37
United States150 Posts
On September 21 2010 04:04 dynamite wrote: Elitist much? No, more like a place where a real conversation about sc2 can happen where the people involved in the discussion know what they are talking about. If you find this "elitist" then I don't think you understand what elitist means, and I don't think you value the benefits of REAL, educated discussion about the game. I don't mean to offend you by saying this, but I would point out that you probably wouldn't concern yourself with this kind of discussion anyway. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8153 Posts
Just leave it ffs. Teamliquid is not supposed to be an elite club of super duper gosu players. It's SC2 community. Some player with less skill give sometimes better advice than super skilled player, because most of the time super skilled players give answer for super skilled players. I remember this argument between Idra and Stylish where this one was defending that if your money raise up you should add more factory regardless the optimal number depending of your base count pro gamer use. Idra answered that Stylish didn't have a clue, that if you had 3 bases it was 8 fact and not otherwise. And that lolol he was a noob and people starting to flame Stylish arguing with a "CJ progamer". Point is, they were both right. If you macro perfectly, you must stick to 8 facts. But the question was from a D level player, and it's fucking obvious that if you don't have the mechanics to macro very well, or rather, that if your macro is horrendous because you play 3 games a week and don't want to become next Boxer and spend your life in Korea, you should add some facilities, even knowing that it's not optimal. | ||
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dekwaz
Thailand61 Posts
1. Will these dudes post? I mean how many would really post and how many would actually come in to discuss? 2. If they post would they really be willing to share info on how to smash them with other pros? 3. Will there discussions really be beneficial to the majority of the population? I mean maybe they will discuss stuff that only people with 'real' apm of 100+ can do correctly, for a simple example. 4. I think that the platinum and downwards don't have a monopoly in idiots and bm. If these questions are addressed in some way I think that these subforums would be an interesting read. (I vote for public read only) | ||
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stfouri
Finland272 Posts
Oh yeh even lurking that kind of shit is terrible, sure you get some nice posts time to time, but same happens without any elitist provoking system. If you think some 1300p requirement stops trolling and critisism you are so wrong. | ||
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bluesoup
Macedonia107 Posts
On October 16 2010 19:13 Biff The Understudy wrote: Some player with less skill give sometimes better advice than super skilled player, because most of the time super skilled players give answer for super skilled players. I completely agree with whole above post. Having elite forum will only serve the elite few. Right now, for verified, solid advices, there is always Liquipedia. I think TL admins/mods should make that decision and publish it as official, whatever it is. The elitist requests are becoming more boredom. If Admins decide it is good overall for TL to have closed forum just for the elite few, than so be it. It will be a clear message that people with lower skills, like ones older, with <100apm, and less skilled overall should not contribute their ideas... However as stated few pages before rating =/= skills; rating =/= understanding of the game; rating =/= knowledge; rating =/= ability to put that knowledge/understanding into words. I do however agree that rating could be linked to TL profile and displayed for those who wish to have it enabled. SC2Ranks world rank is not inflatable as bnet points and would serve as good reference. It will enable audience to judge the posts for themselves. | ||
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Madkipz
Norway1643 Posts
On October 16 2010 19:40 bluesoup wrote: I completely agree with whole above post. Having elite forum will only serve the elite few. Right now, for verified, solid advices, there is always Liquipedia. I think TL admins/mods should make that decision and publish it as official, whatever it is. The elitist requests are becoming more boredom. If Admins decide it is good overall for TL to have closed forum just for the elite few, than so be it. It will be a clear message that people with lower skills, like ones older, with <100apm, and less skilled overall should not contribute their ideas... However as stated few pages before rating =/= skills; rating =/= understanding of the game; rating =/= knowledge; rating =/= ability to put that knowledge/understanding into words. I do however agree that rating could be linked to TL profile and displayed for those who wish to have it enabled. SC2Ranks world rank is not inflatable as bnet points and would serve as good reference. It will enable audience to judge the posts for themselves. Though people who are 1200 diamond are not elite lol it wont help us out much because our idols wont be posting there. There is a reason the request for a forum for above diamond players only (around 4000 per server) Because anyone below are not remotely competent at the game. Im 1400 and daim i suck. I suck so much that if i ever decided to compile a list of replays and present it to the strategy forum the advice from copper - platinum is most likely not going to elevate my play. (brb posting.) xD. | ||
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TheHit
United States36 Posts
I mean I am 53-33 and I have 1000 points I would like to point out that even decent diamond players can get 1500 points by just winning 50% of their games while i can climb the ladder really fast by winning 65% of my games. So points really dont matter that much if ur Win/Loss ratio is just 50% | ||
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Teken
United Kingdom35 Posts
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nytelynx
Australia56 Posts
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DarQraven
Netherlands553 Posts
While we're on stereotypes: Lower league players: lower skills, humility from being beaten time and time again. Upper league players: higher skills, massive ego derived from their ranking. See? I can do it too. If the upper league players feel they need a separate restricted subforum to be able to discuss things, go ahead. I won't mind. I just think they'll be severely disappointed with the amount of change in post quality. | ||
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Dommk
Australia4865 Posts
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standalone
Norway73 Posts
Rank is not a measure of intelligence, skill or the ability to make quality posts. What is really the problem here? In my opinion, It's the result of our individual behaviors combined (the community). I think everyone has behaved poorly on the internet at some point, whether it be trolling, raging, whatever. I know i have. Really, we need to individually evaluate how our behavior is affecting the community. If your behavior is making the community worse, you are hurting yourself. If your behavior is making the community better, you are helping yourself. We all affect the community and we are all affected by it. Because we are the community. | ||
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wristuzi
United Kingdom1168 Posts
The ideal thing would, in my opinion, be to just get more mods. And keep the rules very strict. This topic has been talked about before, and people have talked about this forum in comparison to EJ (elitist jerks, an excellent, if not the best, WoW PvE forum). EJ has absolutely BRUTAL moderation, and it keeps the topics very focused on what is actually supposed to be discussed. So many people would LOVE to be a mod for TL, | ||
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