• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:28
CEST 16:28
KST 23:28
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists14[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers12Maestros of the Game 2 announced52026 GSL Tour plans announced14Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid23
StarCraft 2
General
MaNa leaves Team Liquid Maestros of the Game 2 announced 2026 GSL Tour plans announced Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 522 Flip My Base The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss Mutation # 520 Moving Fees
Brood War
General
Data needed ASL21 Strategy, Pimpest Plays Discussions [ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro16 Group D [ASL21] Ro16 Group C [ASL21] Ro16 Group B [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1663 users

[VOTE] SC2 Player quality limits in order to post

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 32 33 34 Next All
Mantikor
Profile Joined August 2010
United States68 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-21 02:01:10
September 20 2010 19:01 GMT
#1
The quality of posts and discussions on TL has degraded and has been muddied by trolls and bronzies. There's even quotes from QXC and other pro-gamers where they say they don't even post here anymore because "Its hard to defend a point when you have 10 bronze level players arguing with you" Every Thread turns into either a flame war or a balance thread. Even constructive threads get derailed after the first couple pages.

What I want to know, Is how many of you would like a new sub-forum or a way to have some threads locked to high level players only. Much like the wow forum Arena Junkies, you link your TL identity to your bnet acct. It would remove some of the anonymity, as well as allow for some REALLY good theorizing.

Honestly, I don't even think I would be able to post in these threads, but i sure as hell would read the crap out them!

I'm not making this as an "open letter" or call to action for the mods here, I just want to get an idea of how many other people here feel the same as I do.

The point limits are defiantly not set in stone, they are more or less just placeholders.
Poll: Would you support a "high-end discussion only" posting method?

A 1200pt+ pro-gamer only Subforum (no public write) (1762)
 
60%

Leave it the way it is. (508)
 
17%

A 1200pt+ pro-gamer only Subforum (no public read/write) (461)
 
16%

No changes, but link TL to bnet profile so you know the quality of replies (135)
 
5%

A "must be xxxpoint or higher in order to reply" thread creation option (53)
 
2%

2919 total votes

Your vote: Would you support a "high-end discussion only" posting method?

(Vote): A 1200pt+ pro-gamer only Subforum (no public read/write)
(Vote): A 1200pt+ pro-gamer only Subforum (no public write)
(Vote): A "must be xxxpoint or higher in order to reply" thread creation option
(Vote): No changes, but link TL to bnet profile so you know the quality of replies
(Vote): Leave it the way it is.


The point limits are defiantly not set in stone, they are more or less just placeholders.


edit:

case and point
On September 21 2010 04:05 vrok wrote:
1200 points? No way. At least over 9000.


and yes, I removed the disclaimer at the top since it was such an issue for some people and could not stay on point.
wat
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
September 20 2010 19:03 GMT
#2
1200+ is far from pro-gamer. I'm 1300+ and never got past C/C- on ICCUP. I would love to see a sub-forum devoid of total scrubs, though.
dynamite
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany33 Posts
September 20 2010 19:04 GMT
#3
Elitist much?
Mantikor
Profile Joined August 2010
United States68 Posts
September 20 2010 19:05 GMT
#4
Yea, the points would defiantly be up for discussion, i just there 1200 in there as a placeholder
wat
vrok
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden2541 Posts
September 20 2010 19:05 GMT
#5
1200 points? No way. At least over 9000.

User was warned for this post
"Starcraft 2 very easy game" - White-Ra
ryanAnger
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States838 Posts
September 20 2010 19:06 GMT
#6
I agree, while I'm not quite 1200 yet (only about 1000) I think it would be nice to have a place for those who know the game, and are honestly trying to improve and be creative with strategies. So much crap in the Strategy forums right now, its unfortunate.
On my way...
ThE.SparkZ
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States381 Posts
September 20 2010 19:06 GMT
#7
ITS OVER 9000!

User was warned for this post
A battle between gods is just so damn beautiful
Blackjackbob
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada164 Posts
September 20 2010 19:06 GMT
#8
It's not that you're looking for 1200+ to be equaling 'progamer' it's just that when you get to 1000 point plus you at least weed out a lot of useless info. with a 1000 or 1200 range you are geting at least a generally decent knowledge base and most of what will be posted will be of quality and thought out.

If you have ever been to the Arena Junkies forums it uses this sort of idea and overall I really feel it works out very well.
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
September 20 2010 19:07 GMT
#9
I actually wouldn't mind a sub-forum where only the top players have rights to post, but the rest of us can read. I think that'd be pretty educational.
ltortoise
Profile Joined August 2010
633 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-20 19:09:32
September 20 2010 19:08 GMT
#10
Who would take the time out of their day to verify all this crap, or write the code that does it automatically, or prove that the account they are claiming is theirs is actually theirs?

etc

edit: Seems to me that all we need is a "featured threads" subforum of some kind. Quality guide threads can be featured there, endorsed by TL staff.
gillon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1578 Posts
September 20 2010 19:09 GMT
#11
Wouldn't mind it all, not 100% convinced it's needed either though. I'd be interested to see what it turned out like, though.
www.teamproperty.net | "You should hate losing, but you should never fear defeat." - 이윤열
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
September 20 2010 19:09 GMT
#12
I voted for option 2, but would prefer the option re-written as "A pro-gamer only subforum, no public write".
Yargh
valc
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom4 Posts
September 20 2010 19:09 GMT
#13
On September 21 2010 04:07 Slow Motion wrote:
I actually wouldn't mind a sub-forum where only the top players have rights to post, but the rest of us can read. I think that'd be pretty educational.


I agree
artanis2
Profile Joined April 2010
United States732 Posts
September 20 2010 19:09 GMT
#14
I think you'll be surprised by how many immature "pro" players there are.
phfantunes
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil170 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-20 19:11:06
September 20 2010 19:10 GMT
#15
There is no valid way to measure one's skill. 1200 points (or any arbitrary value for that matter) doesn't mean anything. Heck, I'm over 1200 points and I know for sure I'm nowhere near as good as the top guys are. In fact I participated my first tourney this weekend and after getting my ass handed I realized that you get a very poor experience from laddering.

Anyways, back on topic, I like the idea as I could learn a lot from it, but I don't think there's a viable way to measure one's skill, nor would pros care making their discussion publics. I certainly can't picture IdrA posting a [G] on some build or strategy he has been tinkering.
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
September 20 2010 19:10 GMT
#16
i always giggle when a thread starts with "hai gais im 800-9000 point diamond player, therefore my opinion matters"

you come of as a huge elitist in my eyes, in the end its the staff of TL that decides stuff like that, and tbh i don't think they want it to be a regime like that
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
ChickenLips
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2912 Posts
September 20 2010 19:10 GMT
#17
Sounds nice on paper. (Yeah no idiots right?)

Total organisational nightmare with lotsa drama and other bullshit. TL wont implement it.
❤Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ✿
Shurayuki
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2665 Posts
September 20 2010 19:10 GMT
#18
apart from the fact this thread is going nowhere fast already...how do you define a high level player?
the 'pros' don't have to post and discuss here because they know each other on a real life level most of the time anyways.
and ranking is totally unrelated to 'high level', people get to diamond just by cheesing you know?

sure there's a lot of stupid posting lately, but locking people out is the worst reaction imaginable for a public forum.
なまいきになんなよ~ Don't be too stakka~ ☆ SKT Harlequin ☆ n.Die_soO Hoppin You ♪ 愛 am BeSt ♪ ワイフ♥小早川りんこ
illumination
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)248 Posts
September 20 2010 19:10 GMT
#19
Who would vote no to this? People who want to write to top players for some reason? Its a feature with a higher level of accuracy. Imagine what the strategy forums could be. All of us lower players could learn a lot at the cost of what? Obviously it is elitism but that doesn't make it wrong. Player with a better reputation (pts) has ideas which are more valid than a say a bronze player and there is no escaping that. You will still have the old threads and high level players will still post there just as much but we can have something we rarely have; an intelligent discussion where everyone is an informed contributor.
Welcome to TL - Where Terran have been teaching the Zerg / Toss pros how to play since Patch 11
dudeman001
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2412 Posts
September 20 2010 19:10 GMT
#20
Since everyone keeps getting bonus pool, the limitations of some kind of pro subforum would have to scale accordingly. And as elitist as this idea sounds, I think it'd be really helpful. At least until SC2 is a bit older and whining > problem-solving dies down.
Sup.
1 2 3 4 5 32 33 34 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
12:30
Playoffs Day 1
herO vs Classic
SHIN vs Cure
Solar vs Percival
WardiTV926
TKL 227
Liquipedia
Afreeca Starleague
10:00
Ro16 Group D
Barracks vs Leta
Royal vs Light
Afreeca ASL 15342
StarCastTV_EN323
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko456
Hui .227
TKL 227
LamboSC2 130
Rex 117
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 37516
Calm 14217
Sea 8155
Jaedong 6050
BeSt 1604
Rush 1237
Hyuk 990
Horang2 696
Pusan 464
Snow 420
[ Show more ]
Mind 310
Mini 284
Zeus 217
ToSsGirL 105
JYJ 97
Sharp 93
ggaemo 92
Sea.KH 74
[sc1f]eonzerg 61
Noble 41
Backho 40
Sexy 39
Killer 33
zelot 20
Rock 19
Shine 15
Bale 14
SilentControl 14
Movie 14
JulyZerg 10
Terrorterran 10
eros_byul 1
Dota 2
Gorgc7073
qojqva1144
League of Legends
Reynor70
Counter-Strike
shoxiejesuss1527
Heroes of the Storm
Trikslyr135
Other Games
FalleN 4020
singsing2100
hiko997
B2W.Neo535
Beastyqt425
DeMusliM311
crisheroes287
XaKoH 146
Mew2King101
ArmadaUGS67
QueenE60
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream11241
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream5245
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 265
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• 3DClanTV 73
• poizon28 26
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 6
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis3684
• TFBlade1793
Other Games
• WagamamaTV169
• Shiphtur124
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
19h 32m
Replay Cast
1d 9h
The PondCast
1d 19h
KCM Race Survival
1d 19h
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
1d 20h
Gerald vs TBD
Clem vs TBD
ByuN vs TBD
Rogue vs MaxPax
ShoWTimE vs TBD
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
Escore
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
3 days
Universe Titan Cup
3 days
Rogue vs Percival
[ Show More ]
Ladder Legends
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
BSL
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
4 days
Ladder Legends
5 days
BSL
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-04-20
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W4
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.