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Slakter
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden1947 Posts
September 20 2010 19:11 GMT
#21
This is so elitistic.
Protoss, can't live with em', can't kill em'.
SixTwo
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands68 Posts
September 20 2010 19:11 GMT
#22
I'm not a member of TL for that long (new with sc2) but I think the mods on here are the best, just take a look at the closed threads and the people banned everyday. I also don't think your idea is great, infact I'm very much against it, if someone is trolling on here be sure they won't stay here for much longer, again reffering to the bans.

As for the discussion parts with only allowing diamond level players to post, in my opinion that won't work as many many people that are in diamond don't deserve to be there, I'm mostlly lurking on these forums and beeing denied access to a part of a forum just because I don't play sc2 enough to be 1200+ doesn't sound very good to me.

QXC you've probablly heard of him, is a great great player and I'm sure if he makes a post about something he feels needs posting, people that post negative responses just for the sake of posting, without actually discussing the matter at hand again like I said won't stay here much longer. SOmme people that have been warned or banned for 2+ days have been banned for one line posts, trolling, or even just quoting the guy above, when they provide no feedback on the discussion they need to go.

(TLDR): TL.net is great, please keep it as it is.
Monokeros
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States2493 Posts
September 20 2010 19:11 GMT
#23
Considering some of the first few responses I wouldn't mind this at all....
Keep the Dream Alive twitch.tv/monokerros
ryanAnger
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States838 Posts
September 20 2010 19:12 GMT
#24
On September 21 2010 04:09 valc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2010 04:07 Slow Motion wrote:
I actually wouldn't mind a sub-forum where only the top players have rights to post, but the rest of us can read. I think that'd be pretty educational.


I agree


This could also fix the issue that was mentioned by Saracen, where a lot of pros don't actually like to post here any more because there is always an abundance of noobs telling them that they are stupid, whenever they post something.
On my way...
Dekoth
Profile Joined March 2010
United States527 Posts
September 20 2010 19:12 GMT
#25
The problem with this system is twofold; 1) There are plenty of high point players who still haven't a clue about actual game balance, 2) There are some players who don't play much and aren't ranked and still have more gameplay balance knowledge then most high rank ever will.

How about a Forum where the quality of yours posting earns you the right to post, instead of some arbitrary number? It would make a great deal more sense to base it off what someone has proven they can bring to the table of discourse instead of some number that may or may not of been earned.
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
September 20 2010 19:12 GMT
#26
You must have missed MorroW and IdrA getting into a flame war. Just having a ton of points and being good doesn't mean the forum wouldn't turn into a shit fest.
Wat
Rakanishu2
Profile Joined May 2009
United States475 Posts
September 20 2010 19:13 GMT
#27
The only problem is you're offending all the bronzies who will then come into this thread and vote against this measure, even when its best for the website/community. If this vote indicates that people want this feature even with the lower players coming in here and poo pooing it, then it should be done without any doubt.

But it probably won't.

Sadly.
10 G's in the packet and I'm ready to roll, on fire like a rocket and I'm ready to blow
Blix
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands873 Posts
September 20 2010 19:13 GMT
#28
I don't feel i'm qualified to vote in this poll
Conquer yourself not the world. - Descartes
Chaos
Profile Joined July 2009
United States772 Posts
September 20 2010 19:13 GMT
#29
Its an interesting idea but I think it would not be successful and is unlikely to be implemented. If the 1200+ point players want a place to discuss strategy then they can make their own forum to do it.

+ Show Spoiler +
btw "I'm high rank plat, my games are usually vs. 500pt Diamonds. so.... whats that C or lower in ICCUP?" probably means you're D rank iccup
FruitMarket
Marahumm
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States98 Posts
September 20 2010 19:13 GMT
#30
I like the idea, but I think that would deprave the actual strategy forum of veterans. If newbies like me have a legitimate question, who will answer when everyone is flocking to this new elite forum?
Looks like you mashed some poor fellers dog, Sarge.
FantaFunL
Profile Joined July 2010
Belgium71 Posts
September 20 2010 19:14 GMT
#31
On September 21 2010 04:10 SmoKim wrote:
i always giggle when a thread starts with "hai gais im 800-9000 point diamond player, therefore my opinion matters"

you come of as a huge elitist in my eyes, in the end its the staff of TL that decides stuff like that, and tbh i don't think they want it to be a regime like that


Did you read the OP
Rakanishu2
Profile Joined May 2009
United States475 Posts
September 20 2010 19:15 GMT
#32
On September 21 2010 04:09 artanis2 wrote:
I think you'll be surprised by how many immature "pro" players there are.


I think I won't.

Make this feature happen and we'll see how it works out.
10 G's in the packet and I'm ready to roll, on fire like a rocket and I'm ready to blow
Humdrum
Profile Joined July 2010
40 Posts
September 20 2010 19:15 GMT
#33
As a brand new player to multiplayer rts, I would love to have that type of sub-forum. It's hard to tell which information in the strategy section is actually useful and which information is actually counterproductive.
Karthane
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1183 Posts
September 20 2010 19:17 GMT
#34
I'd be up for having a sub forum that only "pros" can post in, just to have all their posts in one place and to be able to easily look at their strats/thoughts etc. But i think these people should not be just over 1200 rating. I think the TL staff should designate who they think should be able to post there. Hopefully people like IdrA, Huk, LzGaMeR, etc.
Tuneful
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States327 Posts
September 20 2010 19:17 GMT
#35
I have no problem with a 'qualified writers' forum. I want to say that there's so much to be learned if people would just shut up and listen to qualified players. I think it's redundant, though, because a place to go for 'qualified' or 'legit' information is what Liquipedia ought to be.
"I play this game for three years, twelve hours a day - I shouldn't lose to these people"
MoreFaSho
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1427 Posts
September 20 2010 19:18 GMT
#36
On September 21 2010 04:17 Karthane wrote:
I'd be up for having a sub forum that only "pros" can post in, just to have all their posts in one place and to be able to easily look at their strats/thoughts etc. But i think these people should not be just over 1200 rating. I think the TL staff should designate who they think should be able to post there. Hopefully people like IdrA, Huk, LzGaMeR, etc.

Don't let IdrA find out you compared him to HuK and Lz, his head my explode with BM.
I always try to shield slam face, just to make sure it doesnt work
rycho
Profile Joined July 2010
United States360 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-20 19:21:44
September 20 2010 19:21 GMT
#37
First of all, I'm not sure that being high rated necessarily makes you good at discussing the game or knowledgeable about the game. Maybe its true for the top couple hundred players or so, but certainly not 1200+ point players. There are some really good game players who are immature/stupid/have dumb balance opinions but they are still able to play well. Maybe there are some lower rated ladder players who watch more than they play and who are intelligent people who just don't practice enough who can offer valuable input.

Also, comparing anything to arenajunkies is pretty much a joke, I was a member of that site from the day it was created and i saw very few intelligent threads and mostly exactly what you guys are complaining about, people you don't think are intelligent or highly ranked enough to be posting making stupid threads or whatever.
VonLego
Profile Joined June 2010
United States519 Posts
September 20 2010 19:22 GMT
#38
Largest benefit would be knowing the source is competent. The strategy section currently is a pretty iffy place sometimes. It is very frustrating to read a large write-up eagerly, then a couple pages of comments, and then watch the replay for 5-10 minutes only to find out that both players in said replay were atrocious.

The largest issue for setting the forum up would be how to allow privileges. Invite only would work for "pros only" but a 1300+ forum would need some automation likely requiring folks to link their TL accounts with their profiles. I don't know how much time or money would be required in setting that up.

I second issue which could likely could be worked around with some ingenuity is that the "good players" have an ever moving point value. Perhaps time will show that eventually we know "1500+ is a very good player" but currently we just know that point values have been slowly going up since launch. Solution likely would involve a "Rating > 1000 + kTime" in place of "Rating > 1300" to account for this steady growth of rating as the season goes on.
Gorguts
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada254 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-20 19:24:37
September 20 2010 19:22 GMT
#39
On September 21 2010 04:01 Mantikor wrote:
I'm high rank plat, my games are usually vs. 500pt Diamonds. so.... whats that C or lower in ICCUP?




LOL? try D-
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
September 20 2010 19:22 GMT
#40
On September 21 2010 04:11 Sl4ktarN wrote:
This is so elitistic.


I disagree.
The "lesser players" will still be able to read it, they just can't reply and fuck the thing up. I think it's an awesome idea. Right now the strategy forum is like bronze players OP with a diamond player response or diamond player with a bunch of bad bronze responses.
FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I like winning because it validates all the bloody time I waste playing SC2.
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