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LeDuck
Germany152 Posts
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ondik
Czech Republic2908 Posts
HOWEVER - in the deciding game Morrow rushed and there was MASSIVE lag totally making impossible to micro for both sides in tense moment. So yea, i think the rules should be changed. | ||
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Kashll
United States1117 Posts
On September 06 2010 00:59 apm66 wrote: Sounds like MorroW has a really big ego now! MorroW: "I told them that I regret it" "but I don't" "xD" Lol you think that anyone who is really fucking good at SC2 (i.e. goes to lans) doesn't have a really big ego when it comes to SC2? Some people just have better ettiquette in public (which is a good thing). But if morrow didn't think that conversation would go public it's completely normal. | ||
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c0rn1
Germany146 Posts
On September 06 2010 01:59 HolydaKing wrote: Well IdrA is coming from BW and in the BW scene it was quite common to cast from replays. For Wc3 players that's absurd, since it hardly ever happened there. Scores spread too fast to cast from replays at such daily tournaments. At TSL for example it worked fine, but i doubt it could go well at for example Go4SC2 cups. Well, E-Sports is slowly creeping up to the masses. And rather than changing rules, I'd like to see some invention. What is so hard to have 1-2 dedicated ESL streamer join the game, stream it in HQ without casting and the casters can connect to it? Instead of complaining and raging players should help to try to find a solution and support it. I do agree that every additional caster in the game raises the chance of lag exponentially but the times of replaycasts are over since sc2 is a fast-growing scene and has such a swift information exchange that the cast of a replay is old already when it starts. Imagine a football (soccer for the US) WC with a cast of replays? or an NHL stanley cup final without livecast? cheers c0rn1 | ||
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pR0gR4m3R
Spain1446 Posts
Com´on.... | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
On September 06 2010 02:13 TotalBiscuit wrote: Livecasting is part of the excitement of sports, E or otherwise. People who say they 'just don't get' livecasting, just don't get sports. The difference is that if you broadcast a football game online it doesn't effect the players while the same can't be said for a sc2 game. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On September 06 2010 02:13 TotalBiscuit wrote: Livecasting is part of the excitement of sports, E or otherwise. People who say they 'just don't get' livecasting, just don't get sports. There's a reason ESPN/ABC/TNT delay, cut and edit the coach's comments when they give them microphones during the game. This is essentially the same. I understand the excitement of livecasting but because Blizzard didn't implement any way to delay like HLTV has, the best option for the players/fans is live casted replays as soon as the game finishes. | ||
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
On September 06 2010 02:06 leecH wrote: hi TL community.. first post yaaay. even a drama post ;D im living in germany. i was visiting gamescom "IEM" where ive seen morrow playing against idra. you guys remember the interview by take after the match? "lets not talk about imbalanced" was the first thing he told to idra after the finals. anyway: i remember this stream by take. he was streaming from his home. he was drinking about 3 beers and was totally drunk. he was sitting on his couch, bouncing to some shitty gangster music. (really narcissistic), making fun of his girlfriend cleanig his appartement... finally right when the game started he was like "i have to go to the toilet"........... WTF?! something like this is called "official"? my friends and me could not stop laughing after this. also at this cast he was the reason for a big drama because he lagged out of a game and they had to rematch because of it. im just writing this because i see people here are defending the ESL. just wanted to let you know on which side you are. <3 sc2 drama. Haha, this post really cracked me up for some reason. | ||
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starcraft911
Korea (South)1263 Posts
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Cranberries
Wales567 Posts
On September 06 2010 02:16 Jibba wrote: There's a reason ESPN/ABC/TNT delay, cut and edit the coach's comments when they give them microphones during the game. This is essentially the same. I understand the excitement of livecasting but because Blizzard didn't implement any way to delay like HLTV has, the best option for the players/fans is live casted replays as soon as the game finishes. American live broadcasts must be very different to European, or at least English, live broadcasts. Oo | ||
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Usul
Germany150 Posts
On September 06 2010 02:17 starcraft911 wrote: That's too bad you got banned. Why they need 14 know-nothing casters rambling on about bullshit and stating the obvious makes no sense to me. I like Day9 because he adds some comic relief to the games which is needed. So many casters are HORRIBLE at the game and they talk with authority... gross. :/ so its up to you to decide which casters are good and which arent? | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On September 06 2010 02:15 nihlon wrote: The difference is that if you broadcast a football game online it doesn't effect the players while the same can't be said for a sc2 game. As much as I understand the concern of ghosting, I've seen very little evidence of that ever happening (since it tends to be pretty damn obvious). I think what I'm going to do is find someone who can create a buffering system for streams, 5-10 minutes or so, stream to a separate server, have that server run FMLE and then stream out that way. Multiplay reckon they can do it for next i41, so I'll probably just steal their system. | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On September 06 2010 01:59 HolydaKing wrote: I will say that it was only the norm in BW because the TSL decided to put players needs first since we understand how crucial it can be to have a perfectly lag free environment. Before the TSL everything happened live, or as close to live as you could imagine. All it takes is for a major organisation to take a stand on the issue and then others will follow.Well IdrA is coming from BW and in the BW scene it was quite common to cast from replays. For Wc3 players that's absurd, since it hardly ever happened there. Scores spread too fast to cast from replays at such daily tournaments. At TSL for example it worked fine, but i doubt it could go well at for example Go4SC2 cups. | ||
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sircuddles
Canada91 Posts
If a caster is required or given access via tournament rules that's different, but having 14 people in there is just ridiculous and never needed. Rules need to be very specific and 50 people shouldn't be allowed in there observing in the first place. Allowing random observers who aren't casting is also pretty stupid (if lag is a concern). I think the real problem is that there are what, 5 or 6 groups of English casters? And they're always trying to cast at the same times and the same games, and it needs to stop. Some of these people need to just go away. | ||
fiskrens
Sweden196 Posts
It's fine to have a few people spectating as long as it does not affect game play. On September 06 2010 02:09 c0rn1 wrote: Imagine a football (soccer for the US) WC with a cast of replays? or an NHL stanley cup final without livecast? Imagine a football game where you have 20 people not playing on any team running around on the field because its much more fun to observe the game that way. | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On September 06 2010 02:22 fiskrens wrote: Allowing that many casters in a game is stupid and unprofessional. I don't think anyone cares what their rules say. They should, because they're the ones doing the payout and organising the tournament. | ||
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Hypersphere
Sweden46 Posts
On September 06 2010 00:51 floor exercise wrote: For some reason Morrow is one of the players always talking to BigT, who no doubt given this conversation talked him into starting the game with the aim of getting more people onto BigT's stream Pretty much everything bad in the world can be traced back to BigT I am not a fan of BigT either, but in this case he had absolutely nothing to do with it. He even made a joke in that exact moment that trolls would find a way of blaming it on him. | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On September 06 2010 02:16 Jibba wrote: Very very true. As a observer, as long as you don't know the results the game is basically live and the majority of the excitement is carried over.There's a reason ESPN/ABC/TNT delay, cut and edit the coach's comments when they give them microphones during the game. This is essentially the same. I understand the excitement of livecasting but because Blizzard didn't implement any way to delay like HLTV has, the best option for the players/fans is live casted replays as soon as the game finishes. | ||
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Piy
Scotland3152 Posts
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