EPTMorrow banned from EPS Nordic - Page 7
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On September 06 2010 01:54 Senx wrote: But they don't. They let every caster, their friend and their dog into tournament matches and then they ban players when the players finally get fed up with having over a dozen people ruining their chances to compete beacuse of high latency. yeah it seems incredibly unprofessional :-( | ||
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
On September 06 2010 01:48 IdrA wrote: live casting is fucking ridiculous for so many reasons this really needs to be stopped. Yep. Only one is really needed, why the hell were there 14 in IEM... | ||
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Kigari
Bahrain134 Posts
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dellesh1ruH
Denmark509 Posts
yea x2 | ||
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c0rn1
Germany146 Posts
On September 06 2010 01:48 IdrA wrote: live casting is fucking ridiculous for so many reasons this really needs to be stopped. if you now start to include reasons we could actually see what you're talking about. no cast = no viewers = no income = no prices for the tournament. And especially YOU who plays in Korea where alot of matches are cast should understand it the most. | ||
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Tdelamay
Canada548 Posts
On September 06 2010 01:52 I_Love_Bacon wrote: Spend 2 seconds and you should be able to find the english cast. Jesus, some of the laziness around here fucking blows my mind. They changed the streaming rules, Bacon. Now only esl tv is allowed to stream the quarter final and up. If they do not stream in english, then there won't be any. You are also very rude. | ||
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
On September 06 2010 01:54 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote: Woot how many casters were there? How about 2-3? 1 German and two really good English ones such as GLHF.tv and Gosugamers. May be unfair towards other casters but the games and player matter... not the huge amount of casters out there. On September 06 2010 01:40 MorroW wrote: i won vs dimaga out of lag with 14 casters the entire series, was unplayable then in finals they wanted 14 casters again and i started without them in game 1, then game 2 and on i let them watch apologized for real afterwards, got angry because of the lag and disrespect of the admins to ignore what i had to say and thats why i started without them. ill be back after the ban time and i have cleared the air with them they will change their rules soon because situations like this are ridiculous which they agreed on there was no bad mannering going on here from either of the parties thats the truth your ignorant and disrespectful | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On September 06 2010 01:57 c0rn1 wrote: if you now start to include reasons we could actually see what you're talking about. no cast = no viewers = no income = no prices for the tournament. And especially YOU who plays in Korea where alot of matches are cast should understand it the most. Well IdrA is coming from BW and in the BW scene it was quite common to cast from replays. For Wc3 players that's absurd, since it hardly ever happened there. Scores spread too fast to cast from replays at such daily tournaments. At TSL for example it worked fine, but i doubt it could go well at for example Go4SC2 cups. | ||
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rasnj
United States1959 Posts
Last Wednesday when TaKe and DeMuslim were casting Morrow vs Dimaga there were ridiculously many casters. Morrow asked for people to leave, but not a single person left, and no ESL admin said anything. I dunno if Take and Demuslim were the ones supposed to ask streamers to leave, or perhaps there was an ESL admin, but there should have been an ESL admin (whether Take or someone else) to tell streamers and non-essential observers to gtfo. They finally played the game since apparently no one was caring at all about what Morrow said. Now this stuff happens again and it's understandable that Morrow is pissed. Not allowing Take to join was a stupid thing to do, but as I see it there was no right thing for Morrow to do. He could have insisted on removing casters and been met by silence and inaction followed by a "rdy morrow?" He may not have chosen the best option, but it must have been frustrating as hell to be him and I totally understand not acting rationally in such a situation. Both parties are to blame, but ESL is the ones that need to realize that they must do something different in the future. | ||
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
On September 06 2010 01:57 Tdelamay wrote: They changed the streaming rules, Bacon. Now only esl tv is allowed to stream the quarter final and up. If they do not stream in english, then there won't be any. You are also very rude. If that's true I retract my statement slightly. There are still english casts going on and if you actually care about the game, then the language shouldn't matter. None of the english casters (who are currently streaming) have any meaningful insight to add to the game. Watch muted, with german, or don't watch. edit: and if it's true, Kudos to ESL for their desire to minimize bull shit in the finals/semis. I don't feel like hitting multi-quote, but whoever quoted IdrA... he's talking about casting from replays. Not just stopping casting all together. Casting live games means more lag, more possible problems on multiple ends, more downtime for viewers because you can't just go from one game to the next, etc. Casting replays is smooth and appeases to players. Yes, it's not live, but if all you care about is the results live then I'm sure you could find updates rather than watch any game at all. | ||
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SOCOMICEPICK
87 Posts
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
On September 06 2010 00:56 RifleCow wrote: Shouldn't of posted that picture man, you got him banned for 2 additional weeks because of it. that pic was all over the esl irc channels that day... nothing new | ||
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cocosoft
Sweden1068 Posts
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AmaZing
Nepal299 Posts
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Usul
Germany150 Posts
On September 06 2010 00:49 arew wrote: I don't get why it's such a big deal of not letting caster to obs... so u really dont get why the guys who finance the tournament are angry because they are not allowed to cast their own tournament? really? | ||
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Tdelamay
Canada548 Posts
On September 06 2010 02:02 I_Love_Bacon wrote: If that's true I retract my statement slightly. There are still english casts going on and if you actually care about the game, then the language shouldn't matter. None of the english casters (who are currently streaming) have any meaningful insight to add to the game. Watch muted, with german, or don't watch. edit: and if it's true, Kudos to ESL for their desire to minimize bull shit in the finals/semis. I don't feel like hitting multi-quote, but whoever quoted IdrA... he's talking about casting from replays. Not just stopping casting all together. Casting live games means more lag, more possible problems on multiple ends, more downtime for viewers because you can't just go from one game to the next, etc. Casting replays is smooth and appeases to players. Yes, it's not live, but if all you care about is the results live then I'm sure you could find updates rather than watch any game at all. Watching muted streams can be fun, but I personally enjoy listening to the commentaries without the video. It's my way of enjoying these games. | ||
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leecH
Germany385 Posts
im living in germany. i was visiting gamescom "IEM" where ive seen morrow playing against idra. you guys remember the interview by take after the match? "lets not talk about imbalanced" was the first thing he told to idra after the finals. anyway: i remember this stream by take. he was streaming from his home. he was drinking about 3 beers and was totally drunk. he was sitting on his couch, bouncing to some shitty gangster music. (really narcissistic), making fun of his girlfriend cleanig his appartement... finally right when the game started he was like "i have to go to the toilet"........... WTF?! something like this is called "official"? my friends and me could not stop laughing after this. also at this cast he was the reason for a big drama because he lagged out of a game and they had to rematch because of it. im just writing this because i see people here are defending the ESL. just wanted to let you know on which side you are. <3 sc2 drama. | ||
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Aberu
United States968 Posts
On September 06 2010 00:59 apm66 wrote: Sounds like MorroW has a really big ego now! MorroW: "I told them that I regret it" "but I don't" "xD" This is nothing new, all of the interviews he claims that no other terran is up to his level yet, that he is the best terran right now, etc... Just making statements like that, with the smirk on his face after wins, he is a very egotistical little prick. | ||
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Whiztard
United States241 Posts
MorroW did the right thing by standing up to the ESL and their ridiculous rules, and he accepted the ban like a man. On a side note, I always thought that the IEM was bs too because it used Battle.Net as a medium for play, but the fault is most likely in part with Blizzard for not releasing a LAN feature for tournaments like they promised (I don't even think GSL has that). | ||
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