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Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
September 03 2010 12:21 GMT
#41
Most peoples' connections to the server aren't bad; I think they could do a 750k or 1000k stream. I'd definitely pay for that.
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
FrogOfWar
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1406 Posts
September 03 2010 12:25 GMT
#42
On September 03 2010 20:43 HeIios wrote:
Well I'm a happy customer, I bought the stream for 20 dollars and got the VOD's ontop of that price now :D [edit] and all 3 seasons for that 20 dollars! I'm so happy ^_^

But damn all that whining... I hope I never have to witness teamliquid in that state ever again.


Yeah, definitely ... the manly thing to do is to obediently and silently eat up any outrageously overpriced crap any SC2 related business might come up with.
/sarcasm

By raising a shitstorm, the community gave the only appropriate response.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 12:27:25
September 03 2010 12:26 GMT
#43
man this is so fuckin sad
wth is going on

I dont understand why you guys are now talking about the new premium/free gsl stream, thats not what this thread is about
beep boop
Runsta
Profile Joined March 2008
United States161 Posts
September 03 2010 12:26 GMT
#44
On September 03 2010 21:16 Butigroove wrote:
I am going to buy the service now that they offer a free stream, just to support the fact that they listen to the community.

Still sad that its not going to be on OGN.


I'm thinking about doing the same thing. Go GOM!
DarkspearTribe
Profile Joined August 2010
568 Posts
September 03 2010 12:28 GMT
#45
I'm sad and happy at the same time.
kariido
Profile Joined December 2007
Saudi Arabia179 Posts
September 03 2010 12:36 GMT
#46
On September 03 2010 20:43 Craton wrote:
I'm still laughing (crying) inside that they think 250kbps is "standard" and 500kbps is "HQ."

Do they not realize random amateurs are streaming at 1000kbps or better? That HQ is more like 1500kbps? MLGs was 1600kbps, iirc. Even just 800kbps is miles ahead of 500kbps in clarity.

Ridiculous.

True, I thought the "high quality" stream would be in HD.
http://campaignforliberty.org/
Robeezy
Profile Joined June 2010
United States33 Posts
September 03 2010 12:36 GMT
#47
Still not watching, their arrogance left a bad taste in my mouth. I wouldn't watch it if they had the "HQ" stream for free.
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
September 03 2010 12:36 GMT
#48
This is bad bad news for BW
ATOBTTR
dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
September 03 2010 12:37 GMT
#49
On September 03 2010 20:30 rasnj wrote:
I also posted this on the GSL stream thread, but since not everyone will read 80pages to see it I'm reposting it here:

It seems like GOM is listening to the community. I just received the following e-mail (I added bold for emphasis):
Show nested quote +

Dear our valued user,

This is GOMtv.net Support Team.
We’ve found you purchased Season Live ticket($19.95) via Paypal and we are sending this email to inform you very important issues.
We are sorry to say this, however, we would like to let you know this information as soon as possible.

As you know, we do not have free streaming service on GOMtv.net.
Since our service has been opened to public, lots of e-sports fans have requested for the free streaming service.
We’ve thought this issue over for the last few days and we’ve decided to release the free service for the users.

Therefore, we will service 1 season premium ticket which includes VOD service and Premium Live service, and the price will be $19.95.
With premium ticket, you can watch High Quality(500K) streaming live matches and VODs.
Free service is the Standard Quality(below 250K) streaming live only, with no VODs.

You can ask a refund if you are not happy with this new premium service.
However, if you keep your purchase, we will reward you the premium ticket for 3 pre-seasons which is valid for all season in this year.

Please reply to this email if you want to refund your VOD ticket before the first live broadcasting starts(at 7pm KST).
Otherwise, we will consider that you keep your purchase and accept the premium service for 3 pre-seasons.

Again, thank you for your purchase.

Sincerely,
GOMtv.net Support Team

It looks like still no free vods, but free LQ stream.

i really appreciated your post here. thank you.

i think their business model is flawed. the matches are likely to be aired/streamed live when its 5:00AM in North America. Basically due to time zone difference, it is hard for them to accommodate all viewers. i think they are better off offering free (but limited) VOD but charge for the live stream. besides, live stream is expensive on bandwidth because you pay extra for congestion.
...from the land of imba
Teken
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom35 Posts
September 03 2010 12:39 GMT
#50
20 bukcs :D i sold :D but hopefully things gonna get better with all that e-sport blizz kespa .
do whatever its takes to be the best
Raol
Profile Joined July 2009
Romania56 Posts
September 03 2010 12:40 GMT
#51
I am starting to think if this 'listening to the community' is real or is just a marketing strategy: Greetech: "We want to sell live stream and vods for 20$. Let's tell the community we want much more(50$), they will complained and then we will 'listen to the community' and reduce the charge. The community will accept the offer and will pay! They will pay for low quality stream!".
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 12:49:52
September 03 2010 12:40 GMT
#52
$20 for BOTH HQ stream AND VODs is much more reasonable pricing. Too bad they remove the VODs after a limited time though, if active subscribers could always access the VOD archives that would entice people to keep paying $20/month for the access.

It sucks that what they consider HQ is only 500kbps and pretty weak. What does that translate to anyways, 480x360?
kar1181
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom515 Posts
September 03 2010 12:41 GMT
#53
$20 for the good stuff, and a free, albeit lq stream, this is pretty much a best case solution.
jackalope
Profile Joined April 2009
Taiwan120 Posts
September 03 2010 12:44 GMT
#54
stop talking about gom pricing. This thread is about OGN not broadcasting.
water in the lasers
Robeezy
Profile Joined June 2010
United States33 Posts
September 03 2010 12:48 GMT
#55
On September 03 2010 21:40 Raol wrote:
I am starting to think if this 'listening to the community' is real or is just a marketing strategy: Greetech: "We want to sell live stream and vods for 20$. Let's tell the community we want much more(50$), they will complained and then we will 'listen to the community' and reduce the charge. The community will accept the offer and will pay! They will pay for low quality stream!".



I wouldn't be surprised. I sometimes use a similar technique in my sales job, works pretty well especially if you are the only one who has that particular product.
Random()
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 12:54:03
September 03 2010 12:50 GMT
#56
So disappointing

Instead of collaborating and profiting (GSL broadcasted on OGN, Proleague goes on) they decide to keep shitting on each other.

I actually feel bad for Blizzard. They had to sign with Gretech because KeSPA was throwing tantrums, now Gretech tries to get their revenge on KeSPA and struggles for power, but in the end it only makes it worse for both SC1 and SC2
kwlpp
Profile Joined January 2010
United States41 Posts
September 03 2010 12:52 GMT
#57
was gonna watch this on OGN, i'm not going to pay to watch poor quality streams...gonna have to sit this one out. i'it's ridiculous thinking that somehow a 500kbps stream is considered HQ and worth the $20 to watch it.
Polis
Profile Joined January 2005
Poland1292 Posts
September 03 2010 12:54 GMT
#58
On September 03 2010 21:48 Robeezy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2010 21:40 Raol wrote:
I am starting to think if this 'listening to the community' is real or is just a marketing strategy: Greetech: "We want to sell live stream and vods for 20$. Let's tell the community we want much more(50$), they will complained and then we will 'listen to the community' and reduce the charge. The community will accept the offer and will pay! They will pay for low quality stream!".



I wouldn't be surprised. I sometimes use a similar technique in my sales job, works pretty well especially if you are the only one who has that particular product.


I doubt it becouse many people could only hear about they 50$ offer, and not get the updated information later on. They also had not updated they site yet.
fams
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada731 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 13:03:18
September 03 2010 13:01 GMT
#59
My solution to this problem:

- Have the Free Low-Quality stream (500kbps) air LIVE.
- Have a second airing of the Free Low-Quality stream during the evening in North America.

- Charge a ONE time fee ($20.00 USD) for the High-Quality stream and VODs PER season.
- This gives you access to High-Quality streams at both airing times, as well as to the VODs and any extra content that my arise.

- One-Two months after the season ends, offer HD VODs (ALL of them) to the public for a price of $10.00 USD

---------------------------------------------------------------------


On a side note, I would like to point out to all of you, that $20 for an ENTIRE season is pocket change compared to the price of that of a regular season Hockey or Baseball game (depending on your seats and what team of course). You are usually happy to shell out that money just for a few hours of fun, that you cannot relive (unless you brought a video camera yourself).

GOMtv charges $20 now (reportedly) for an ENTIRE season, as well as VODs so you can relive all of your favorite games. So to be honest, you have nothing to complain about other than the airing times, and that's understandable considering their main audience is probably in Korea (not to mention its easier on all the staff and players to produce something like this when they are regularly awake : ))
http://www.twitter.com/famsytron/
clowntable
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany11 Posts
September 03 2010 13:16 GMT
#60
20$ for stream+VODs seems reasonable. I think they should do it like the NFL (Gamepass HD Europe) and charge whatever they deem appropriate per season and allow full access to the entire VOD archive as long as you have an active subscription

I'm more than willing to pay the 20$ because that's how the quality of the stream will get better and how good casters will be signed long term. Can't really complain about how "expensive" this is and at the same time want esports to become more mainstream

I think it would make sense to also offer some package that reairs the games (not live) during good US and/or Euro times and allows access to the VODs
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