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bmml
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom962 Posts
September 03 2010 11:50 GMT
#21
Probably due to the proleague issues, well hopefully it'll sort itself out .
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
September 03 2010 11:52 GMT
#22
On September 03 2010 20:43 Craton wrote:
I'm still laughing (crying) inside that they think 250kbps is "standard" and 500kbps is "HQ."

Do they not realize random amateurs are streaming at 1000kbps or better? That HQ is more like 1500kbps? MLGs was 1600kbps, iirc. Even just 800kbps is miles ahead of 500kbps in clarity.

Ridiculous.


Yeah, not the greatest tbh. But because of the distance a lot of people can't get above ~250kbps anyways.
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OTIX
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden491 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 12:16:07
September 03 2010 11:55 GMT
#23
On September 03 2010 20:43 Craton wrote:
I'm still laughing (crying) inside that they think 250kbps is "standard" and 500kbps is "HQ."

Do they not realize random amateurs are streaming at 1000kbps or better? That HQ is more like 1500kbps? MLGs was 1600kbps, iirc. Even just 800kbps is miles ahead of 500kbps in clarity.

Ridiculous.

Well it looked like the bandwidth check was mislabeled, it said Kbps when it was actually measuring KBps. It may be that the 500Kpbs stream is actually 500KBps = 4Mbps which would be extremely good quality. We will find out soon enough.

Edit: Never mind, samples are up and it's just 500k. And the bw check seems to have been fixed.
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
September 03 2010 11:55 GMT
#24
On September 03 2010 20:30 rasnj wrote:
I also posted this on the GSL stream thread, but since not everyone will read 80pages to see it I'm reposting it here:

It seems like GOM is listening to the community. I just received the following e-mail (I added bold for emphasis):
Show nested quote +

Dear our valued user,

This is GOMtv.net Support Team.
We’ve found you purchased Season Live ticket($19.95) via Paypal and we are sending this email to inform you very important issues.
We are sorry to say this, however, we would like to let you know this information as soon as possible.

As you know, we do not have free streaming service on GOMtv.net.
Since our service has been opened to public, lots of e-sports fans have requested for the free streaming service.
We’ve thought this issue over for the last few days and we’ve decided to release the free service for the users.

Therefore, we will service 1 season premium ticket which includes VOD service and Premium Live service, and the price will be $19.95.
With premium ticket, you can watch High Quality(500K) streaming live matches and VODs.
Free service is the Standard Quality(below 250K) streaming live only, with no VODs.

You can ask a refund if you are not happy with this new premium service.
However, if you keep your purchase, we will reward you the premium ticket for 3 pre-seasons which is valid for all season in this year.

Please reply to this email if you want to refund your VOD ticket before the first live broadcasting starts(at 7pm KST).
Otherwise, we will consider that you keep your purchase and accept the premium service for 3 pre-seasons.

Again, thank you for your purchase.

Sincerely,
GOMtv.net Support Team

It looks like still no free vods, but free LQ stream.


That's the best news i've heard in a long time. $20 sounds reasonable for live stream + vods.
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Sigmur
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland497 Posts
September 03 2010 11:58 GMT
#25
Wow, 20$ for everything?. Sounds interesting even for a poor collage student from Poland :>
kickinhead
Profile Joined December 2008
Switzerland2069 Posts
September 03 2010 11:59 GMT
#26
On September 03 2010 20:34 Rabiator wrote:
We just need to hope none of the other good US / EU players disappear into the black hole of Korean eSport to keep the regular free tournaments high in their quality. Sad to lose TLO to it, but we already had our entertainment by him, lets hope someone can replace him on the innovation side of the game.


What happened to TLO?
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stafu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1196 Posts
September 03 2010 12:02 GMT
#27
On September 03 2010 20:59 kickinhead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2010 20:34 Rabiator wrote:
We just need to hope none of the other good US / EU players disappear into the black hole of Korean eSport to keep the regular free tournaments high in their quality. Sad to lose TLO to it, but we already had our entertainment by him, lets hope someone can replace him on the innovation side of the game.


What happened to TLO?
Did I miss sth?

He's talking about the fact that TLO is living in Korea now.
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
September 03 2010 12:02 GMT
#28
$20 for everything is a good price. Like this plan a lot better.
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ZeGzoR
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden307 Posts
September 03 2010 12:03 GMT
#29
I wont pay for a stream, sell some freaking commerciel spots like esl, then we can talk.
yeah yeah im going
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
September 03 2010 12:07 GMT
#30
I would pay but 500k is not HQ so therefore I wont be paying.
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
September 03 2010 12:09 GMT
#31
i just said "what?!" out loud like 50 times
KTY
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
September 03 2010 12:11 GMT
#32
Does the topic mean
For Koreans, they can attend the GSL live or they can watch it with via internet (afaik gomtv is only internet, or am I wrong there?) and not on a normal TV channel (like OGN would've been)?

Hikari
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
1914 Posts
September 03 2010 12:11 GMT
#33
hmm... interesting... better than nothing!
Solai
Profile Joined September 2009
204 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 12:15:35
September 03 2010 12:14 GMT
#34
I wonder what is happening behind the scenes. Probably Kespa threatened that they wont allow the players to participate in the OSL, if they working together with Gretech. Anyway for now we can just speculate. I hope that we will get some clarification soon.

Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
September 03 2010 12:16 GMT
#35
I am going to buy the service now that they offer a free stream, just to support the fact that they listen to the community.

Still sad that its not going to be on OGN.
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SexyBimbo
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany89 Posts
September 03 2010 12:18 GMT
#36
Hmm so this is a good thing I believe, but it does not really save the GSL for me.
If all I get for free are livestreams in KST I can now choose between either

a) too little sleep
b) no sleep at all/freaked out teachers and bad grades because I leave my courses at "random" times

I would not even stay up until 4:00 AM or something for a Fantasy vs Jaedong OSL finals, not even if I knew how amazing it would be in advance. I'd much rather search hours upon hours on the internet for some extremely low quality VOD of a re-restream with tons of ads and messed up sounds, possibly filmed with a mobilephone.

So - any chance something like the above depicted will be available for people like me?
I really don't like to think I am going to miss this event because of the crappy timezones...
Also I assume this does apply to most other Europeans and people from NA, too. Sounds like the overall GSL audience is going to be quite manageable...

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Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
September 03 2010 12:19 GMT
#37
Much better @ $20. Though I would support an optional micro transaction model for VODs.
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jackalope
Profile Joined April 2009
Taiwan120 Posts
September 03 2010 12:19 GMT
#38
On September 03 2010 20:34 Rabiator wrote:

Doesnt GOM have someone to check the grammar in their "standard letters" for english? The one pasted by rasnj has quite a few errors ...


i'ts quite good English by asian standards though.
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Aikin
Profile Joined April 2010
Austria532 Posts
September 03 2010 12:20 GMT
#39
$20 for everything is a good price. Like this plan a lot better.

Yeah I agree, 20 $ for vods and livestream isn´t as crazy as 30 for vods without stream. Also I could get the 500 kb/s. If that offer is true I might consider buying one.
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cYaN
Profile Joined May 2004
Norway3322 Posts
September 03 2010 12:21 GMT
#40
Bah, not good at all. Thought this whole thing was on it's way to being resolved:\
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