• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 18:59
CET 00:59
KST 08:59
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !9Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced15
StarCraft 2
General
Micro Lags When Playing SC2? ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview
Tourneys
$100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement Mutation # 501 Price of Progress
Brood War
General
Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings Anyone remember me from 2000s Bnet EAST server? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ How Rain Became ProGamer in Just 3 Months FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle
Tourneys
[BSL21] LB QuarterFinals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum PC Games Sales Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
The (Hidden) Drug Problem in…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1179 users

Did KeSPA cancel TLO vs Nada at IEM? - Page 4

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 26 27 28 Next All
PlosionCornu
Profile Joined August 2010
Italy814 Posts
August 21 2010 11:19 GMT
#61
On August 21 2010 20:15 Arm4n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2010 20:08 PlosionCornu wrote:
So,having a pro gamer license actually sells your soul to kespa? I mean,If I'm a pro football player,and out of my curiosity I want to partecipate to some other sport event,like,a rally, I can't?


are you talking about football? then yes you can. if you're talking about soccer who cares go die.

Yeah,handegg :D
Mannerheim
Profile Joined April 2007
766 Posts
August 21 2010 11:19 GMT
#62
This is a dick move unlike anything I've ever seen before. I didn't think it was possible for me to respect KeSPA any less, but again they found a way to make it happen. I hope the organization crumbles down to the ground.
hacpee
Profile Joined November 2007
United States752 Posts
August 21 2010 11:20 GMT
#63
On August 21 2010 20:18 Reaper9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2010 20:16 hacpee wrote:
On August 21 2010 20:09 Narien wrote:
Yes, any organisation that forces children to forego all social life, work long hours every day of the week and basicly end their careers before 25 are good, and no, i'm not talking about taiwan shoe-factories :D


No one forces anyone to do anything. They an easily quit the team and move on to their regular lives if they so choose.


It is not so easy. Starcraft is mostly what they know. There are some that concentrate in school, but for the most part, practicing for 12-13 hours a day without studying will destroy their career opportunities. Of course they can still go back to school, but I am not an expert on Korean culture and society.


Its not like they hide the conditions of the B team members. The players know what they're getting in to when they join. Its like the people who want to be movie stars. They know that they'll most likely end up working at starbucks or wal-mart for the rest of their lives but they still try to be movie stars.
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6992 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 11:26:26
August 21 2010 11:21 GMT
#64
It would be extremely interesting to know how the Korean community is reacting to this. I bet kespa was trying to shut down the matches without their name being thrown in as this incident will no doubt just give more publicity to the games and make it more apparent how kespa is working towards sc2 not growing in Korea.

It's amusing how SC2 is the perfect opportunity for esports to become mainstream everywhere in the world and there's two companies that could potentially benefit hugely from this, yet they're both doing stupid shit and making it harder and harder for SC2 to succeed.
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
August 21 2010 11:22 GMT
#65
Nada is indirectly a Kespa employee. I totally understand. But Kespa shouldn't have let Nada participate in the show match in the first place.
ॐ
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 11:24:47
August 21 2010 11:23 GMT
#66
Seems like an abuse of power. I didn't realize kespa controls rights for SC2 as well as BW.

I mean, it's kinda like the NBA's player's union telling Charles Barkley that he can't play a televised round of charity golf, isn't it?

just dumb that they have that sorta control over the korean BW players & teams.
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13069 Posts
August 21 2010 11:24 GMT
#67
haha this is amazing. 1st Blizzard fucks up big in the last 2 days with their bnet 0.2 and now KESPA comes to their rescue doing even more stupid shit. <3
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Tiax;mous
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
669 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 11:26:22
August 21 2010 11:25 GMT
#68
On August 21 2010 20:23 Tadzio wrote:
Seems like an abuse of power. I didn't realize kespa controls rights for SC2 as well as BW.

I mean, it's kinda like the NBA's player's union telling Charles Barkley that he can't play a televised round of golf for charity, isn't it?

just dumb that they have that sorta control over the korean BW players & teams.

they dont control sc2 , they control nada who's still an active bw player. thats the problem. as far as i know they have no power on idra for example.
sleepytime
Profile Joined January 2010
Denmark122 Posts
August 21 2010 11:25 GMT
#69
On August 21 2010 20:02 AyJay wrote:
And NOW I fully understand why Blizzard didn't want to negotiate with KeSPA

Makes me support any Blizzard decisions x100 times more even if that means profit for Activision.


I agree with you
Nada fighting!
SoL[9]
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Portugal1370 Posts
August 21 2010 11:26 GMT
#70
OMG...Kespa did it again...
I Can Fly...
Brad
Profile Joined April 2010
2754 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 11:27:01
August 21 2010 11:26 GMT
#71
Massive abuse of power. I don't live in that type of society, so i can't exactly comment.

Blizzard is lucky. The LAN issue got pushed back because KeSPA did something even more stupid.
Lee Jae Dong proved that a focus on mechanics and execution could solve problems in the StarCraft game strategy.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51507 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 11:26:46
August 21 2010 11:26 GMT
#72
On August 21 2010 20:23 Tadzio wrote:
Seems like an abuse of power. I didn't realize kespa controls rights for SC2 as well as BW.

I mean, it's kinda like the NBA's player's union telling Charles Barkley that he can't play a televised round of charity golf, isn't it?

just dumb that they have that sorta control over the korean BW players & teams.


Unlike the NBA, or even any other major sport league, the players don't have a players association to fall back on. Such a shame, really.
Commentator
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
August 21 2010 11:26 GMT
#73
On August 21 2010 19:56 sva wrote:
I was waiting for this thread to pop up, i wont be surprised if it gets locked quickly.


What does this even mean? :/
Moderator<:3-/-<
Jochan
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Poland1730 Posts
August 21 2010 11:27 GMT
#74
If they settled on stream in eu/us only, they "legally" could kill the game, but seriously, how realistic is the idea of controlling internet users in Korea ? For Christs sake, even in countries where internet is banned/government controlled you can "sneak things in"... That was failure waiting to happen with this decision.
"(...)all in the game, yo. All in the game"
EG_rebound
Profile Joined August 2010
United States5 Posts
August 21 2010 11:27 GMT
#75
On August 21 2010 20:18 Reaper9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2010 20:16 hacpee wrote:
On August 21 2010 20:09 Narien wrote:
Yes, any organisation that forces children to forego all social life, work long hours every day of the week and basicly end their careers before 25 are good, and no, i'm not talking about taiwan shoe-factories :D


No one forces anyone to do anything. They an easily quit the team and move on to their regular lives if they so choose.


It is not so easy. Starcraft is mostly what they know. There are some that concentrate in school, but for the most part, practicing for 12-13 hours a day without studying will destroy their career opportunities. Of course they can still go back to school, but I am not an expert on Korean culture and society.


KeSPA, as far as I have gathered, also has been pretty much the only game in town, so to speak. If they were to quit their teams, it'd be highly unlikely that they would get to play in another major, since so many of the top dogs are a part of KeSPA.
"I'M IN DEEP!! D:"
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
August 21 2010 11:28 GMT
#76
On August 21 2010 20:24 SkelA wrote:
haha this is amazing. 1st Blizzard fucks up big in the last 2 days with their bnet 0.2 and now KESPA comes to their rescue doing even more stupid shit. <3


haha, yeah its almost funny, bet blizzard are were thinking "phew, thank god KeSPA did this, else all the flames would be towards us!"
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
Hrafn
Profile Joined June 2010
Austria42 Posts
August 21 2010 11:28 GMT
#77
Hey Blizz, when you're trying to shove your own monopoly on a community you had no part in creating, you can expect that the people in charge won't let their contracted players advertise for you.

Thanks Blizz.
hacpee
Profile Joined November 2007
United States752 Posts
August 21 2010 11:28 GMT
#78
On August 21 2010 20:23 Tadzio wrote:
Seems like an abuse of power. I didn't realize kespa controls rights for SC2 as well as BW.

I mean, it's kinda like the NBA's player's union telling Charles Barkley that he can't play a televised round of charity golf, isn't it?

just dumb that they have that sorta control over the korean BW players & teams.


The NBA can't because barkley doesn't work for the NBA anymore, but ESPN can if its in the contract.
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
August 21 2010 11:28 GMT
#79
On August 21 2010 20:26 IntoTheWow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2010 19:56 sva wrote:
I was waiting for this thread to pop up, i wont be surprised if it gets locked quickly.


What does this even mean? :/


Probably that this seems like the kind of topic that would start a flame-war. People get pretty vitriolic when it comes to KeSPA / Blizzard / ESPORTS
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
cr4ckshot
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States291 Posts
August 21 2010 11:29 GMT
#80
anyone got the VODs? I missed it.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 26 27 28 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Ladder Legends
19:00
WWG Amateur Showdown
davetesta70
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech221
PiGStarcraft206
SpeCial 143
StarCraft: Brood War
EffOrt 193
Dewaltoss 111
Shuttle 58
Mong 22
NaDa 15
GoRush 12
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm96
febbydoto55
LuMiX1
League of Legends
Trikslyr44
Counter-Strike
summit1g4749
Heroes of the Storm
Grubby4672
Khaldor275
Other Games
FrodaN1168
Mew2King226
JimRising 80
ViBE54
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1535
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• musti20045 38
• RyuSc2 32
• IndyKCrew
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• mYiSmile12
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22345
League of Legends
• Doublelift4663
Other Games
• imaqtpie2490
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
10h 1m
Ladder Legends
17h 1m
BSL 21
20h 1m
StRyKeR vs TBD
Bonyth vs TBD
Replay Cast
1d 9h
Wardi Open
1d 12h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 17h
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
ByuN vs Solar
Clem vs Classic
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs MaxPax
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS3
RSL Offline Finals
Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 1
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.