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PlosionCornu
Profile Joined August 2010
Italy814 Posts
August 21 2010 11:19 GMT
#61
On August 21 2010 20:15 Arm4n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2010 20:08 PlosionCornu wrote:
So,having a pro gamer license actually sells your soul to kespa? I mean,If I'm a pro football player,and out of my curiosity I want to partecipate to some other sport event,like,a rally, I can't?


are you talking about football? then yes you can. if you're talking about soccer who cares go die.

Yeah,handegg :D
Mannerheim
Profile Joined April 2007
766 Posts
August 21 2010 11:19 GMT
#62
This is a dick move unlike anything I've ever seen before. I didn't think it was possible for me to respect KeSPA any less, but again they found a way to make it happen. I hope the organization crumbles down to the ground.
hacpee
Profile Joined November 2007
United States752 Posts
August 21 2010 11:20 GMT
#63
On August 21 2010 20:18 Reaper9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2010 20:16 hacpee wrote:
On August 21 2010 20:09 Narien wrote:
Yes, any organisation that forces children to forego all social life, work long hours every day of the week and basicly end their careers before 25 are good, and no, i'm not talking about taiwan shoe-factories :D


No one forces anyone to do anything. They an easily quit the team and move on to their regular lives if they so choose.


It is not so easy. Starcraft is mostly what they know. There are some that concentrate in school, but for the most part, practicing for 12-13 hours a day without studying will destroy their career opportunities. Of course they can still go back to school, but I am not an expert on Korean culture and society.


Its not like they hide the conditions of the B team members. The players know what they're getting in to when they join. Its like the people who want to be movie stars. They know that they'll most likely end up working at starbucks or wal-mart for the rest of their lives but they still try to be movie stars.
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
7012 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 11:26:26
August 21 2010 11:21 GMT
#64
It would be extremely interesting to know how the Korean community is reacting to this. I bet kespa was trying to shut down the matches without their name being thrown in as this incident will no doubt just give more publicity to the games and make it more apparent how kespa is working towards sc2 not growing in Korea.

It's amusing how SC2 is the perfect opportunity for esports to become mainstream everywhere in the world and there's two companies that could potentially benefit hugely from this, yet they're both doing stupid shit and making it harder and harder for SC2 to succeed.
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
August 21 2010 11:22 GMT
#65
Nada is indirectly a Kespa employee. I totally understand. But Kespa shouldn't have let Nada participate in the show match in the first place.
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Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 11:24:47
August 21 2010 11:23 GMT
#66
Seems like an abuse of power. I didn't realize kespa controls rights for SC2 as well as BW.

I mean, it's kinda like the NBA's player's union telling Charles Barkley that he can't play a televised round of charity golf, isn't it?

just dumb that they have that sorta control over the korean BW players & teams.
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13076 Posts
August 21 2010 11:24 GMT
#67
haha this is amazing. 1st Blizzard fucks up big in the last 2 days with their bnet 0.2 and now KESPA comes to their rescue doing even more stupid shit. <3
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Tiax;mous
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
669 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 11:26:22
August 21 2010 11:25 GMT
#68
On August 21 2010 20:23 Tadzio wrote:
Seems like an abuse of power. I didn't realize kespa controls rights for SC2 as well as BW.

I mean, it's kinda like the NBA's player's union telling Charles Barkley that he can't play a televised round of golf for charity, isn't it?

just dumb that they have that sorta control over the korean BW players & teams.

they dont control sc2 , they control nada who's still an active bw player. thats the problem. as far as i know they have no power on idra for example.
sleepytime
Profile Joined January 2010
Denmark122 Posts
August 21 2010 11:25 GMT
#69
On August 21 2010 20:02 AyJay wrote:
And NOW I fully understand why Blizzard didn't want to negotiate with KeSPA

Makes me support any Blizzard decisions x100 times more even if that means profit for Activision.


I agree with you
Nada fighting!
SoL[9]
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Portugal1370 Posts
August 21 2010 11:26 GMT
#70
OMG...Kespa did it again...
I Can Fly...
Brad
Profile Joined April 2010
2754 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 11:27:01
August 21 2010 11:26 GMT
#71
Massive abuse of power. I don't live in that type of society, so i can't exactly comment.

Blizzard is lucky. The LAN issue got pushed back because KeSPA did something even more stupid.
Lee Jae Dong proved that a focus on mechanics and execution could solve problems in the StarCraft game strategy.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51582 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 11:26:46
August 21 2010 11:26 GMT
#72
On August 21 2010 20:23 Tadzio wrote:
Seems like an abuse of power. I didn't realize kespa controls rights for SC2 as well as BW.

I mean, it's kinda like the NBA's player's union telling Charles Barkley that he can't play a televised round of charity golf, isn't it?

just dumb that they have that sorta control over the korean BW players & teams.


Unlike the NBA, or even any other major sport league, the players don't have a players association to fall back on. Such a shame, really.
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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32278 Posts
August 21 2010 11:26 GMT
#73
On August 21 2010 19:56 sva wrote:
I was waiting for this thread to pop up, i wont be surprised if it gets locked quickly.


What does this even mean? :/
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Jochan
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Poland1730 Posts
August 21 2010 11:27 GMT
#74
If they settled on stream in eu/us only, they "legally" could kill the game, but seriously, how realistic is the idea of controlling internet users in Korea ? For Christs sake, even in countries where internet is banned/government controlled you can "sneak things in"... That was failure waiting to happen with this decision.
"(...)all in the game, yo. All in the game"
EG_rebound
Profile Joined August 2010
United States5 Posts
August 21 2010 11:27 GMT
#75
On August 21 2010 20:18 Reaper9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2010 20:16 hacpee wrote:
On August 21 2010 20:09 Narien wrote:
Yes, any organisation that forces children to forego all social life, work long hours every day of the week and basicly end their careers before 25 are good, and no, i'm not talking about taiwan shoe-factories :D


No one forces anyone to do anything. They an easily quit the team and move on to their regular lives if they so choose.


It is not so easy. Starcraft is mostly what they know. There are some that concentrate in school, but for the most part, practicing for 12-13 hours a day without studying will destroy their career opportunities. Of course they can still go back to school, but I am not an expert on Korean culture and society.


KeSPA, as far as I have gathered, also has been pretty much the only game in town, so to speak. If they were to quit their teams, it'd be highly unlikely that they would get to play in another major, since so many of the top dogs are a part of KeSPA.
"I'M IN DEEP!! D:"
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
August 21 2010 11:28 GMT
#76
On August 21 2010 20:24 SkelA wrote:
haha this is amazing. 1st Blizzard fucks up big in the last 2 days with their bnet 0.2 and now KESPA comes to their rescue doing even more stupid shit. <3


haha, yeah its almost funny, bet blizzard are were thinking "phew, thank god KeSPA did this, else all the flames would be towards us!"
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
Hrafn
Profile Joined June 2010
Austria42 Posts
August 21 2010 11:28 GMT
#77
Hey Blizz, when you're trying to shove your own monopoly on a community you had no part in creating, you can expect that the people in charge won't let their contracted players advertise for you.

Thanks Blizz.
hacpee
Profile Joined November 2007
United States752 Posts
August 21 2010 11:28 GMT
#78
On August 21 2010 20:23 Tadzio wrote:
Seems like an abuse of power. I didn't realize kespa controls rights for SC2 as well as BW.

I mean, it's kinda like the NBA's player's union telling Charles Barkley that he can't play a televised round of charity golf, isn't it?

just dumb that they have that sorta control over the korean BW players & teams.


The NBA can't because barkley doesn't work for the NBA anymore, but ESPN can if its in the contract.
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
August 21 2010 11:28 GMT
#79
On August 21 2010 20:26 IntoTheWow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2010 19:56 sva wrote:
I was waiting for this thread to pop up, i wont be surprised if it gets locked quickly.


What does this even mean? :/


Probably that this seems like the kind of topic that would start a flame-war. People get pretty vitriolic when it comes to KeSPA / Blizzard / ESPORTS
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
cr4ckshot
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States291 Posts
August 21 2010 11:29 GMT
#80
anyone got the VODs? I missed it.
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