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vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
August 21 2010 11:40 GMT
#101
On August 21 2010 20:39 Tump wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2010 20:38 vyyye wrote:
On August 21 2010 20:38 theqat wrote:
That's an extremely misleading thread title that should be changed

How is it misleading?

it should be like KeSPA Interrupts Showmatch or something

Suppose, 'extremely misleading' is going overboard though.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
August 21 2010 11:41 GMT
#102
Good. Shame the showmatch couldn't finish, but ah well.

Not surprising in the least either.
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3772
Profile Joined May 2010
Czech Republic434 Posts
August 21 2010 11:42 GMT
#103
The title is right, KeSPA are bunch of d-bags.
Merikh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States918 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 11:43:51
August 21 2010 11:42 GMT
#104
On August 21 2010 20:38 theqat wrote:
That's an extremely misleading thread title that should be changed


Maybe not worded very well, but not misleading at all.

Kespa stops show match in round 3 vs Kespa Canceled show-match

But that's beyond the point and deserves a whole different discussion

So anyone love how NaDa controlled those tanks on steppes of war? Shit was amazing.
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aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
August 21 2010 11:43 GMT
#105
Kespa and Blizzard .. another dick fight ..

Kespa's move was logical .. but was a dumb move when it comes to PR .. a VERY VERY DUMB MOVE

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Cerion
Profile Joined May 2010
213 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 11:45:04
August 21 2010 11:44 GMT
#106
Remember the beer girls at the world cup? Shutting people down heavyhandedly is a good way to give them more publicity
AyJay
Profile Joined April 2010
1515 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 11:48:09
August 21 2010 11:45 GMT
#107
On August 21 2010 20:30 jamesltl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2010 20:26 Brad wrote:
Massive abuse of power. I don't live in that type of society, so i can't exactly comment.

Blizzard is lucky. The LAN issue got pushed back because KeSPA did something even more stupid.

what did kespa did?

Kespa canceled showmatch TLO vs Nada at the IEM

edit: Holy shit I'm dragoooooooooon
Renew
Profile Joined July 2010
United States13 Posts
August 21 2010 11:45 GMT
#108
It should be obvious that kespa had this in mind when they agreed to let Nada play the showmatch. There's noway in this day and age that it wouldnt have been shown in Korea,thus a staged power play was what us fans had to suffer with.

Blizzard's heavy hand bruised their ego and this was their retort. It's funny and sad how childish kespa is acting.
Uriel_SVK
Profile Joined April 2010
Slovakia427 Posts
August 21 2010 11:45 GMT
#109
This was a big mistake by KESPA. Nada was maybe presenting SC2 to a few Koreans, but really, do you think that there are Koreans that do not know SC2 is out? On the other hand Nada was presenting Koreans and Korean style of play to all the world.
As far as I know, he was only Korean playing SC2 on this event. Casters were also speaking of BW scene which could be a nice advertisment for it. And KESPA uses this oportunity to show the dark side of BW scene, and to show Korean players like puppets that have to fulfill every single wish of mighty KESPA
ahwala
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany418 Posts
August 21 2010 11:47 GMT
#110
On August 21 2010 20:05 IamAnton wrote:
Blizzard never cared about E-sports which is clearly evident from there 0 support of anything non Blizzard-Sanctioned. thank god this useless organization is quickly getting flushed down the toilet.


fixed
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
August 21 2010 11:50 GMT
#111
On August 21 2010 20:45 Renew wrote:
It should be obvious that kespa had this in mind when they agreed to let Nada play the showmatch. There's noway in this day and age that it wouldnt have been shown in Korea,thus a staged power play was what us fans had to suffer with.

Blizzard's heavy hand bruised their ego and this was their retort. It's funny and sad how childish kespa is acting.

It's a big conspiracy!

No, I don't think so. But I do wonder what went through their heads at the time.
kheldorin
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore539 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 11:53:03
August 21 2010 11:52 GMT
#112
On August 21 2010 20:43 aimaimaim wrote:
Kespa and Blizzard .. another dick fight ..

Kespa's move was logical .. but was a dumb move when it comes to PR .. a VERY VERY DUMB MOVE



This is what happens when broadcasting rights and businesses takes things seriously. I mean Kespa let them have the showmatch only if it doesn't get shown in Korea. So when somebody breaks the rule, do people really expect them to let it go? Come on, give them a bit of respect, they're not some amateurish livestream/ustream caster.

By making this move, Kespa has shown how serious they are about e-sports. It's in Blizzard's court to respond appropriately. If Blizzard doesn't, then it shows that Blizzard doesn't really care about e-sports. They just want the Starcraft community to do all the e-sports work for them while they reap the profits.
Renew
Profile Joined July 2010
United States13 Posts
August 21 2010 11:53 GMT
#113
On August 21 2010 20:50 vyyye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2010 20:45 Renew wrote:
It should be obvious that kespa had this in mind when they agreed to let Nada play the showmatch. There's noway in this day and age that it wouldnt have been shown in Korea,thus a staged power play was what us fans had to suffer with.

Blizzard's heavy hand bruised their ego and this was their retort. It's funny and sad how childish kespa is acting.

It's a big conspiracy!

No, I don't think so. But I do wonder what went through their heads at the time.


How is it a conspiracy? If a government ran organization cannot see how it was a 100% guarantee that the match would be re-broadcasted... then kespa really is stupid.
maJes
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom186 Posts
August 21 2010 11:54 GMT
#114
Personally I think it's a fairly simple matter.

KeSPA don't have rights to broadcast SC2 in S.Korea right now.

A KeSPA licensed player is participating in a showmatch, which is being broadcasted in S.Korea.

Who's going to get in trouble if it continues? Obviously KeSPA.

It sucks that the match had to be cancelled but the only person in the wrong here is the guy who streamed it in S.Korea, and caused the chain of events to occur.
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HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
August 21 2010 11:55 GMT
#115
And they say NK is trying to take over the world...
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
August 21 2010 11:55 GMT
#116
On August 21 2010 20:54 maJes wrote:
Personally I think it's a fairly simple matter.

KeSPA don't have rights to broadcast SC2 in S.Korea right now.

A KeSPA licensed player is participating in a showmatch, which is being broadcasted in S.Korea.

Who's going to get in trouble if it continues? Obviously KeSPA.

It sucks that the match had to be cancelled but the only person in the wrong here is the guy who streamed it in S.Korea, and caused the chain of events to occur.

This sounds pretty plausible.. After all KeSPA agreed to NaDa playing in the show match originally.
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esperanto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany357 Posts
August 21 2010 11:56 GMT
#117
I wonder if the korean community just saw that KESPA is trying everything to hold sc2 down in korea.

For blizzard, besides of the lan issues, i dont see why/how blizzard is effecting the esports community in any bad way. They granted the rights for alot of tournaments/streams/youtube broadcasts basicly for free. And in my opinion it was the right desicion to give the korean licence to Gom-TV, they seem to be much more liberal than KeSPA.
Rodiel
Profile Joined August 2006
France573 Posts
August 21 2010 11:56 GMT
#118
Bad move from Kespa :/
Kexx
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany240 Posts
August 21 2010 11:58 GMT
#119
yay ESL, boooo Kespa.
But oh well, I guess it's one of the disadvantages of being a pro.
chooooch
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51660 Posts
August 21 2010 11:58 GMT
#120
On August 21 2010 20:55 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2010 20:54 maJes wrote:
Personally I think it's a fairly simple matter.

KeSPA don't have rights to broadcast SC2 in S.Korea right now.

A KeSPA licensed player is participating in a showmatch, which is being broadcasted in S.Korea.

Who's going to get in trouble if it continues? Obviously KeSPA.

It sucks that the match had to be cancelled but the only person in the wrong here is the guy who streamed it in S.Korea, and caused the chain of events to occur.

This sounds pretty plausible.. After all KeSPA agreed to NaDa playing in the show match originally.


Why didn't KeSPA do the logical action and order afreeca or whatever to shut down the person streaming the stream? It would have been less of a hassle and we wouldn't have all of this drama.
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