Did KeSPA cancel TLO vs Nada at IEM? - Page 8

On August 21 2010 21:09 mimikami wrote:


I must disagree with you here, why the hell must Kespa care for Sc2 ? It's not even an e-sport !!! (It may become an e-sport in the future but now it's just a mere video game).

Their name is the Korean E-sport Association, which means, they must only care for :

1> Korean (and not foreigner tournaments, events, or anything)
2> E-sport (which is now BW, and not SC2)

They care for the real current e-sport, which is BW, and that is good enough.
Unlike some big fat video game corporation which has plans to destroy the real e-sport, BW.

For the move they made : if I was Kespa I will do the same : it is well within my right to do that and it does not affect my business, which is "Korean E-sport (BW)", and it will strike a blow to my enemy.




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On August 21 2010 21:02 maJes wrote:


I'd assume because the burden of enforcing the rules for the showmatch is on the organisers, in this case ESL, rather than on KeSPA. I don't really understand why KeSPA should have to monitor an ESL event to make sure their asses are covered on the licensing front.

On August 21 2010 21:20 rasnj wrote:

If Korean law is anything like European or American law, then it can't possibly be KeSPA's responsibility that an unlicensed third-party re-streams one of their progamer's games. The only one violating licensing is the re-streamer who obviously did not obtain a license from ESL to stream via Afreeca. Since Kespa doesn't have a license they can't themselves broadcast, but that does not mean they actively have to stop others from broadcasting.

On August 21 2010 21:09 Plexa wrote:
Haven't KeSPA always struggled to shutdown illegal restreams?

On August 21 2010 21:21 TechniQ.UK wrote:
You know im not even joking about this but bw players in kor should make a trade union so they're able to improve their conditions, rights and salaries and collectively refuse to play if kespa starts its nonsense with them. A system where the company in this case kespa has all the influence, leverage and control is never going to be good for players.

On August 21 2010 21:02 maJes wrote:
I'd assume because the burden of enforcing the rules for the showmatch is on the organisers, in this case ESL, rather than on KeSPA. I don't really understand why KeSPA should have to monitor an ESL event to make sure their asses are covered on the licensing front.

On August 21 2010 21:23 Mannerheim wrote:


You literally cannot prevent re-streaming of any event that's being broadcasted in any media. See UFC's troubles with ustream and justin.tv for some real world examples. KeSPA's actions were in no way appropriate.

On August 21 2010 21:21 crappen wrote:
You guys say Kespa came out of this one real ugly, but imo, Blizzard's NO LAN bullshit has really shown off in IEM, and I think every player agree how bullshit it is to have no-lan in tournaments like this one. I can not even imagine how irritating and spirit killing that must have been to pause till lag settles, or to suddenly be dropped.

Tomorrow I have forgotten what Kespa did, or atleast not think about it much, but instead have doubts about SC2 as a future esport.

On August 21 2010 21:24 maJes wrote:


You're right, but if I recall, Dennis said that the conditions on the match stated that it wouldn't be shown in Korea, so the burden would fall on the organisers of the showmatch imo.