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sixfour
England11061 Posts
On August 21 2010 21:27 ddod wrote: How is the Korean community responding to this? Any Korean here so shed some light on the matter? this i want to know, i guess that kespa really wouldn't care that it appears as a massive dick move to the foreign community, if koreans are pissed (if they knew about the game in any decent numbers in the first place) it's somewhat different. | ||
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kheldorin
Singapore539 Posts
On August 21 2010 21:27 aimaimaim wrote: may i just remind you guys that NONE of these things would have happened if Blizzard wasn't being GREEDY .. + Show Spoiler + my 2 cents .. no banhammer please Seriously, Kespa has nothing to gain by letting Nada play in the first place. Because of Blizzard's control, they can't even get credit or recognition for the showmatch. So why exactly should they play nice when Esl breaks the conditions? | ||
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Wolfpox
Canada164 Posts
I don't know what the truth is, but it sounds more plausible for them to cancel the match due to legal worries than to destroy the popularity of SC2. | ||
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Ocedic
United States1808 Posts
On August 21 2010 21:21 crappen wrote: You guys say Kespa came out of this one real ugly, but imo, Blizzard's NO LAN bullshit has really shown off in IEM, and I think every player agree how bullshit it is to have no-lan in tournaments like this one. I can not even imagine how irritating and spirit killing that must have been to pause till lag settles, or to suddenly be dropped. Tomorrow I have forgotten what Kespa did, or atleast not think about it much, but instead have doubts about SC2 as a future esport. Cept Blizzard already stated there will be LAN in the future. There's always going to be technical difficulties, but people find any reason to whine about Blizzard. Why isn't anyone crying that there was a power outage as the showmatch was about to begin? Because that shit couldn't be controlled. | ||
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SmoKim
Denmark10305 Posts
On August 21 2010 21:27 aimaimaim wrote: may i just remind you guys that NONE of these things would have happened if Blizzard wasn't being GREEDY .. may i remind you that NONE of this would happen if KeSPA wasn't so stubbon + Show Spoiler + my 2 cents .. no banhammer please Martyr'ing yourself will get you banned | ||
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VorcePA
United States1102 Posts
On August 21 2010 21:27 aimaimaim wrote: may i just remind you guys that NONE of these things would have happened if Blizzard wasn't being GREEDY .. + Show Spoiler + my 2 cents .. no banhammer please This is the same argument we've heard over and over again. Blizzard is well within their right to have a hand in e-sports, as they're responsible for the biggest e-sports game in the world. Their handling of it is... questionable, to put it mildly, with a huge censor bar over it, and covered with chocolate and sprinkles. It's their game, they should get a piece of the pie. Both Blizzard and KeSPA are being idiots in the whole matter. | ||
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GreatestThreat
United States631 Posts
On August 21 2010 20:28 Hrafn wrote: Hey Blizz, when you're trying to shove your own monopoly on a community you had no part in creating, you can expect that the people in charge won't let their contracted players advertise for you. Thanks Blizz. A community built entirely on their product. You're saying KeSPA owes Blizzard nothing? I can't believe all the posts in this thread taking potshots at Blizz like it's their fault KeSPA is full of dickheads. Keep hating on the company that made the game you play and love and paid for and go to this site everyday to discuss and watch streams and tournaments. If it wasn't for Blizz there would be no Brood War and no e-sports scene for Korea at all. | ||
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Cashout
115 Posts
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Aim Here
Scotland672 Posts
On August 21 2010 21:21 crappen wrote: You guys say Kespa came out of this one ReaL ugly, but imo, Blizzard's NO LAN bullshit has Really shown off in IEM, and I think every player agree how bullshit it is to have no-lan in tournaments like this one. I can not even imagine how irritating and spirit killing that must have been to pause till lag settles, or to suddenly be dropped. Tomorrow I have forgotten what Kespa did, or atleast not think about it much, but instead have doubts about SC2 as a Future esport. Well today Blizzard temporarily screwed up two matches out of 5 whereas KeSPA pulled the plug on the whole showmatch, but yeah, Battlenet 2.0 lossage affects all Starcraft 2 tournaments in the Future, whereas KeSPA's lossage Only screws over games with a Korean progamer in them. Those two make a awesome team when they act together though. Final score for the bo5 TLO vs NaDa showmatch: Players (Liquid`TLO and  NaDa) -2 Greedy old farts hellbent on squeezing everyone for profit (Blizzard and  KeSPA) - 3The Greedy Old farts win the showmatch and will go on to face the general esports viewing public in the next match | ||
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Sqq
Norway2023 Posts
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Hikari
1914 Posts
I do not realize kespa has such powers... so..... exactly what legal power does kespa have? | ||
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Me1234
Germany219 Posts
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vyyye
Sweden3917 Posts
On August 21 2010 21:39 Hikari wrote: wow.... i did not even realized the sudden GG from nada has such a big story behind it... I do not realize kespa has such powers... so..... exactly what legal power does kespa have? They are the ones who supplied Nadas pro gaming license and they're free to take it from him, essentially leaving him unemployed. Someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but I believe that's how it is. | ||
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aimaimaim
Philippines2167 Posts
On August 21 2010 21:34 VorcePA wrote: This is the same argument we've heard over and over again. Blizzard is well within their right to have a hand in e-sports, as they're responsible for the biggest e-sports game in the world. Their handling of it is... questionable, to put it mildly, with a huge censor bar over it, and covered with chocolate and sprinkles. It's their game, they should get a piece of the pie. Both Blizzard and KeSPA are being idiots in the whole matter. i give credit for what blizzard and kespa DID.. but what blizzard is DOING NOW, to me, kespa gave blizzard fame, and they want to kill kespa .. thats not good .. what happened earlier in gamescon was just a reaction of a what blizzard is forcing kespa to do .. On August 21 2010 21:41 vyyye wrote: They are the ones who supplied Nadas pro gaming license and they're free to take it from him, essentially leaving him unemployed. Someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but I believe that's how it is. yup .. thats it | ||
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Mikilatov
United States3897 Posts
Fuck Kespa. | ||
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NeV
Italy370 Posts
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Tiax;mous
669 Posts
On August 21 2010 21:43 NeV wrote: so if that was the reason why they stopped the showmatch, Kespa should't allow Idra to play as well, but they probably don't care as much about him >.> idra is not an active bw player anymore so he's not working with/for kespa at the moment as far as i know. | ||
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aimaimaim
Philippines2167 Posts
On August 21 2010 21:43 NeV wrote: so if that was the reason why they stopped the showmatch, Kespa should't allow Idra to play as well, but they probably don't care as much about him >.> he is just a random white dude .. to korean eyes : white people look alike .. | ||
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NeV
Italy370 Posts
On August 21 2010 21:45 Tiax;mous wrote: idra is not an active bw player anymore so he's not working with/for kespa at the moment as far as i know. actually i think Idra has still the progaming license as a brood war player, in fact some months ago he had to play the OSL preliminaries in order to maintain his progamer status. Playing Starcraft 2 is a concession his team is giving him | ||
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MaYuu
Sweden516 Posts
On August 21 2010 21:48 NeV wrote: actually i think Idra has still the progaming license as a brood war player, in fact some months ago he had to play the OSL preliminaries in order to maintain his progamer status You think that's wierd that he had to play? He's still in CJ and are using thier facilites right? KeSPA is higher ups from the companies sponsoring the pro teams, so if he is to use thier stuff and live in thier house. Why should'nt he go by thier rules? | ||
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