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im a roc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States745 Posts
August 21 2010 12:53 GMT
#181
I guess I was under the impression that KeSPA had effectively been stripped of all power over Blizzard's games during that whole legal scandal. Seeing their name pop up again makes my soul hurt.

I don't know if Blizzard would hold KeSPA responsible for the showmatch just because NaDa was playing, it still seems like IEM's fault.
Beware The Proxy Pool Rush
KinosJourney2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden1811 Posts
August 21 2010 12:54 GMT
#182
This is retarded, seems like Kespa loves being assholes and ruining other peoples fun,

Won't they just give up already? Blizzard have won and they won't gain anything from ruining innocent peoples fun by cancelling a showmatch. Damn it Kespa.
ocho wrote: EDIT: NEVERMIND, THIS THING HAS APM TECHNOLOGY OMG
Tiax;mous
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
669 Posts
August 21 2010 12:55 GMT
#183
On August 21 2010 21:48 NeV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2010 21:45 Tiax;mous wrote:
On August 21 2010 21:43 NeV wrote:
so if that was the reason why they stopped the showmatch, Kespa should't allow Idra to play as well, but they probably don't care as much about him >.>

idra is not an active bw player anymore so he's not working with/for kespa at the moment as far as i know.


actually i think Idra has still the progaming license as a brood war player, in fact some months ago he had to play the OSL preliminaries in order to maintain his progamer status

hmm i didnt know that , dont know much about korean sc scene.
maybe he simply doesnt care about kespa license anymore , as he obviously switched to sc2 and kespa isnt messing with him as he already switched so they cant threaten him but there is no need to take away his license and tighten their active bw progamers list.
again , i'm just merely speculating
MavercK
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2181 Posts
August 21 2010 12:56 GMT
#184
On August 21 2010 21:55 Tiax;mous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2010 21:48 NeV wrote:
On August 21 2010 21:45 Tiax;mous wrote:
On August 21 2010 21:43 NeV wrote:
so if that was the reason why they stopped the showmatch, Kespa should't allow Idra to play as well, but they probably don't care as much about him >.>

idra is not an active bw player anymore so he's not working with/for kespa at the moment as far as i know.


actually i think Idra has still the progaming license as a brood war player, in fact some months ago he had to play the OSL preliminaries in order to maintain his progamer status

hmm i didnt know that , dont know much about korean sc scene.
maybe he simply doesnt care about kespa license anymore , as he obviously switched to sc2 and kespa isnt messing with him as he already switched so they cant threaten him but there is no need to take away his license and tighten their active bw progamers list.
again , i'm just merely speculating


he definately cares about staying on CJ and having his living expenses paid.
Brood War Remake - SC2BW - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=145316
hacpee
Profile Joined November 2007
United States752 Posts
August 21 2010 12:57 GMT
#185
On August 21 2010 21:55 Tiax;mous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2010 21:48 NeV wrote:
On August 21 2010 21:45 Tiax;mous wrote:
On August 21 2010 21:43 NeV wrote:
so if that was the reason why they stopped the showmatch, Kespa should't allow Idra to play as well, but they probably don't care as much about him >.>

idra is not an active bw player anymore so he's not working with/for kespa at the moment as far as i know.


actually i think Idra has still the progaming license as a brood war player, in fact some months ago he had to play the OSL preliminaries in order to maintain his progamer status

hmm i didnt know that , dont know much about korean sc scene.
maybe he simply doesnt care about kespa license anymore , as he obviously switched to sc2 and kespa isnt messing with him as he already switched so they cant threaten him but there is no need to take away his license and tighten their active bw progamers list.
again , i'm just merely speculating


Idra is a no-name programer who is on the CJ B team. Do you think Kespa will actually care about him?
Grond
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
599 Posts
August 21 2010 12:59 GMT
#186
I'll have to be the dissenting voice I guess. It was reasonably generous of Kespa to agree to the show match in the first place considering how Blizzard has treated them regarding SC2. The one restriction they put on the match was not honored.
hacpee
Profile Joined November 2007
United States752 Posts
August 21 2010 12:59 GMT
#187
On August 21 2010 21:40 Me1234 wrote:
stupid kespa, really hope someone finally stops them, so players can do whatever they want to do


Players can already do whatever they want. The difference is that KESPA is paying their bills. As long as the players want Kespa to pay their bills, they will and should do what Kespa wants them to.
MaYuu
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Sweden516 Posts
August 21 2010 13:00 GMT
#188
On August 21 2010 21:57 hacpee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2010 21:55 Tiax;mous wrote:
On August 21 2010 21:48 NeV wrote:
On August 21 2010 21:45 Tiax;mous wrote:
On August 21 2010 21:43 NeV wrote:
so if that was the reason why they stopped the showmatch, Kespa should't allow Idra to play as well, but they probably don't care as much about him >.>

idra is not an active bw player anymore so he's not working with/for kespa at the moment as far as i know.


actually i think Idra has still the progaming license as a brood war player, in fact some months ago he had to play the OSL preliminaries in order to maintain his progamer status

hmm i didnt know that , dont know much about korean sc scene.
maybe he simply doesnt care about kespa license anymore , as he obviously switched to sc2 and kespa isnt messing with him as he already switched so they cant threaten him but there is no need to take away his license and tighten their active bw progamers list.
again , i'm just merely speculating


Idra is a no-name programer who is on the CJ B team. Do you think Kespa will actually care about him?


He's still payed for by kespa, they could replace him anytime since there are loads of new promising bw players in South Korea.
I don't see a reason why they should keep him.
ehh`?
hacpee
Profile Joined November 2007
United States752 Posts
August 21 2010 13:00 GMT
#189
On August 21 2010 21:54 KinosJourney2 wrote:
This is retarded, seems like Kespa loves being assholes and ruining other peoples fun,

Won't they just give up already? Blizzard have won and they won't gain anything from ruining innocent peoples fun by cancelling a showmatch. Damn it Kespa.

Ruining people's fun? Kespa is paying the bills here. If you want to pay Nada's contract, then he will play as much SC2 for you as you want.
hacpee
Profile Joined November 2007
United States752 Posts
August 21 2010 13:01 GMT
#190
On August 21 2010 22:00 MaYuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2010 21:57 hacpee wrote:
On August 21 2010 21:55 Tiax;mous wrote:
On August 21 2010 21:48 NeV wrote:
On August 21 2010 21:45 Tiax;mous wrote:
On August 21 2010 21:43 NeV wrote:
so if that was the reason why they stopped the showmatch, Kespa should't allow Idra to play as well, but they probably don't care as much about him >.>

idra is not an active bw player anymore so he's not working with/for kespa at the moment as far as i know.


actually i think Idra has still the progaming license as a brood war player, in fact some months ago he had to play the OSL preliminaries in order to maintain his progamer status

hmm i didnt know that , dont know much about korean sc scene.
maybe he simply doesnt care about kespa license anymore , as he obviously switched to sc2 and kespa isnt messing with him as he already switched so they cant threaten him but there is no need to take away his license and tighten their active bw progamers list.
again , i'm just merely speculating


Idra is a no-name programer who is on the CJ B team. Do you think Kespa will actually care about him?


He's still payed for by kespa, they could replace him anytime since there are loads of new promising bw players in South Korea.
I don't see a reason why they should keep him.


They can in fact replace him any time they want. Its just that he's so insignificant that its not worth the effort.
DarkSeerTurbo
Profile Joined May 2010
United States105 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 13:06:02
August 21 2010 13:05 GMT
#191
this is a kespa and blizzard issue. blizzard did not promote e-sports--keep that in mind. they are just trying to ride on something someone else discovered and promoted. and now this is what we got: kespa vs blizzard.
MaYuu
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Sweden516 Posts
August 21 2010 13:06 GMT
#192
On August 21 2010 22:01 hacpee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2010 22:00 MaYuu wrote:
On August 21 2010 21:57 hacpee wrote:
On August 21 2010 21:55 Tiax;mous wrote:
On August 21 2010 21:48 NeV wrote:
On August 21 2010 21:45 Tiax;mous wrote:
On August 21 2010 21:43 NeV wrote:
so if that was the reason why they stopped the showmatch, Kespa should't allow Idra to play as well, but they probably don't care as much about him >.>

idra is not an active bw player anymore so he's not working with/for kespa at the moment as far as i know.


actually i think Idra has still the progaming license as a brood war player, in fact some months ago he had to play the OSL preliminaries in order to maintain his progamer status

hmm i didnt know that , dont know much about korean sc scene.
maybe he simply doesnt care about kespa license anymore , as he obviously switched to sc2 and kespa isnt messing with him as he already switched so they cant threaten him but there is no need to take away his license and tighten their active bw progamers list.
again , i'm just merely speculating


Idra is a no-name programer who is on the CJ B team. Do you think Kespa will actually care about him?


He's still payed for by kespa, they could replace him anytime since there are loads of new promising bw players in South Korea.
I don't see a reason why they should keep him.


They can in fact replace him any time they want. Its just that he's so insignificant that its not worth the effort.


Well, each player does get their living expenses paid. He's just a leech in their eys
ehh`?
AyeH
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States534 Posts
August 21 2010 13:08 GMT
#193
On August 21 2010 22:01 hacpee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2010 22:00 MaYuu wrote:
On August 21 2010 21:57 hacpee wrote:
On August 21 2010 21:55 Tiax;mous wrote:
On August 21 2010 21:48 NeV wrote:
On August 21 2010 21:45 Tiax;mous wrote:
On August 21 2010 21:43 NeV wrote:
so if that was the reason why they stopped the showmatch, Kespa should't allow Idra to play as well, but they probably don't care as much about him >.>

idra is not an active bw player anymore so he's not working with/for kespa at the moment as far as i know.


actually i think Idra has still the progaming license as a brood war player, in fact some months ago he had to play the OSL preliminaries in order to maintain his progamer status

hmm i didnt know that , dont know much about korean sc scene.
maybe he simply doesnt care about kespa license anymore , as he obviously switched to sc2 and kespa isnt messing with him as he already switched so they cant threaten him but there is no need to take away his license and tighten their active bw progamers list.
again , i'm just merely speculating


Idra is a no-name programer who is on the CJ B team. Do you think Kespa will actually care about him?


He's still payed for by kespa, they could replace him anytime since there are loads of new promising bw players in South Korea.
I don't see a reason why they should keep him.


They can in fact replace him any time they want. Its just that he's so insignificant that its not worth the effort.


Lol. It's kind of weird to see comments like these because in SC2, he is one of the best. I wish they could've just switched over to SC2 right away. Would lead to more game development and stuff. Stupid politics... Blizzard makes enough money from WoW, do they honestly need to "attempt" to establish eSports when they can't even get BNET2.0 halfway decent? It seems like Blizzard is trying to fix things that aren't broken IMO.
Is it in you?
xlep
Profile Joined December 2009
Germany274 Posts
August 21 2010 13:11 GMT
#194
I have no problem with kespa letting NaDa play a SC2 showmatch or just putting in their "veto", but pulling the plug out because someone restreamed the game is just not right. It's not like that was a unexpected thing to happen. Everyone here probably knew that the esl stream would be restreamed so kespa surely thought of that too.
What Kespa did today was a planned move to show that they own the sc1 players and that those won't play sc2 unless Kespa wants them to.
skill is scissors beating rock
Sputty
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada161 Posts
August 21 2010 13:12 GMT
#195
On August 21 2010 22:06 MaYuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2010 22:01 hacpee wrote:
On August 21 2010 22:00 MaYuu wrote:
On August 21 2010 21:57 hacpee wrote:
On August 21 2010 21:55 Tiax;mous wrote:
On August 21 2010 21:48 NeV wrote:
On August 21 2010 21:45 Tiax;mous wrote:
On August 21 2010 21:43 NeV wrote:
so if that was the reason why they stopped the showmatch, Kespa should't allow Idra to play as well, but they probably don't care as much about him >.>

idra is not an active bw player anymore so he's not working with/for kespa at the moment as far as i know.


actually i think Idra has still the progaming license as a brood war player, in fact some months ago he had to play the OSL preliminaries in order to maintain his progamer status

hmm i didnt know that , dont know much about korean sc scene.
maybe he simply doesnt care about kespa license anymore , as he obviously switched to sc2 and kespa isnt messing with him as he already switched so they cant threaten him but there is no need to take away his license and tighten their active bw progamers list.
again , i'm just merely speculating


Idra is a no-name programer who is on the CJ B team. Do you think Kespa will actually care about him?


He's still payed for by kespa, they could replace him anytime since there are loads of new promising bw players in South Korea.
I don't see a reason why they should keep him.


They can in fact replace him any time they want. Its just that he's so insignificant that its not worth the effort.


Well, each player does get their living expenses paid. He's just a leech in their eys

That's a ridiculously stupid and offensive thing to say, especially since you don't know him at all and don't know anything about how he lives. Stop judging people and just keep your mouth shut to keep yourself from looking so foolish in the future.
MaYuu
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Sweden516 Posts
August 21 2010 13:15 GMT
#196
On August 21 2010 22:12 Sputty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2010 22:06 MaYuu wrote:
On August 21 2010 22:01 hacpee wrote:
On August 21 2010 22:00 MaYuu wrote:
On August 21 2010 21:57 hacpee wrote:
On August 21 2010 21:55 Tiax;mous wrote:
On August 21 2010 21:48 NeV wrote:
On August 21 2010 21:45 Tiax;mous wrote:
On August 21 2010 21:43 NeV wrote:
so if that was the reason why they stopped the showmatch, Kespa should't allow Idra to play as well, but they probably don't care as much about him >.>

idra is not an active bw player anymore so he's not working with/for kespa at the moment as far as i know.


actually i think Idra has still the progaming license as a brood war player, in fact some months ago he had to play the OSL preliminaries in order to maintain his progamer status

hmm i didnt know that , dont know much about korean sc scene.
maybe he simply doesnt care about kespa license anymore , as he obviously switched to sc2 and kespa isnt messing with him as he already switched so they cant threaten him but there is no need to take away his license and tighten their active bw progamers list.
again , i'm just merely speculating


Idra is a no-name programer who is on the CJ B team. Do you think Kespa will actually care about him?


He's still payed for by kespa, they could replace him anytime since there are loads of new promising bw players in South Korea.
I don't see a reason why they should keep him.


They can in fact replace him any time they want. Its just that he's so insignificant that its not worth the effort.


Well, each player does get their living expenses paid. He's just a leech in their eys

That's a ridiculously stupid and offensive thing to say, especially since you don't know him at all and don't know anything about how he lives. Stop judging people and just keep your mouth shut to keep yourself from looking so foolish in the future.


I was just trying to explain why he HAD to play the OSL qualifiers.
It's not up to me to judge if he deserves to stay or not since I'm not charge anyway.
And who cares if it's offensive. It's the truth.

ehh`?
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
August 21 2010 13:15 GMT
#197
What are they talking about on the stream now?
rsol in response to the dragoon voice being heard in SCII: dragoon ai reaches new lows: wanders into wrong game
KinosJourney2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden1811 Posts
August 21 2010 13:16 GMT
#198
On August 21 2010 22:00 hacpee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2010 21:54 KinosJourney2 wrote:
This is retarded, seems like Kespa loves being assholes and ruining other peoples fun,

Won't they just give up already? Blizzard have won and they won't gain anything from ruining innocent peoples fun by cancelling a showmatch. Damn it Kespa.

Ruining people's fun? Kespa is paying the bills here. If you want to pay Nada's contract, then he will play as much SC2 for you as you want.


Kespa stopped a showmatch they didn't even host/was in charge off.

They could have just stopped the stream instead of stopping the actual event(and/or sue the streamer(s)).
Nada playing a single SC2 match for fun can't be that dangerous.
ocho wrote: EDIT: NEVERMIND, THIS THING HAS APM TECHNOLOGY OMG
randomnine
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom56 Posts
August 21 2010 13:18 GMT
#199
Looks like NaDa's being interviewed on the ESL stream now. Anyone speak German? Or Korean?
mgj
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
191 Posts
August 21 2010 13:18 GMT
#200
On August 21 2010 22:08 Dr3w wrote:
Lol. It's kind of weird to see comments like these because in SC2, he is one of the best. I wish they could've just switched over to SC2 right away. Would lead to more game development and stuff. Stupid politics... Blizzard makes enough money from WoW, do they honestly need to "attempt" to establish eSports when they can't even get BNET2.0 halfway decent? It seems like Blizzard is trying to fix things that aren't broken IMO.


Blizzard is not a non-profit organization. They are a company. Suggesting that a company can ever have too much profit, or should stop expanding is ridiculous and unrealistic.
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