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Tazza
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Korea (South)1678 Posts
August 21 2010 14:02 GMT
#221
Of course Kespa hates Blizzard and SC2, wouldn't u be pissed off if someone tried to shut down what you created for 10 years. Kespa created and kept e-sports and spread it, they should be treated like they did
Cofo
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1388 Posts
August 21 2010 14:03 GMT
#222
Kespa: Shatterer of dreams.
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Kim_Hyun_Han
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
706 Posts
August 21 2010 14:05 GMT
#223
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Zapperkhan
Profile Joined October 2008
United States437 Posts
August 21 2010 14:07 GMT
#224
In my eyes the correct course of action would be to contact the streaming site to have them take it down i'd imagine... But they decided to go all power hungry about it.
knatt
Profile Joined October 2008
Sweden21 Posts
August 21 2010 14:11 GMT
#225
I hate it when the players get in the middle of the fight of 2 big organisations.
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 14:43:07
August 21 2010 14:17 GMT
#226
On August 21 2010 22:36 heishe wrote:
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On August 21 2010 22:31 aimaimaim wrote:
this:

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On August 21 2010 20:54 maJes wrote:
Personally I think it's a fairly simple matter.

KeSPA don't have rights to broadcast SC2 in S.Korea right now.

A KeSPA licensed player is participating in a showmatch, which is being broadcasted in S.Korea.

Who's going to get in trouble if it continues? Obviously KeSPA.

It sucks that the match had to be cancelled but the only person in the wrong here is the guy who streamed it in S.Korea, and caused the chain of events to occur.


might have been the reason why NaDa vs TLO's showmatch was stopped .. and Kespa allowed NaDa to play SC2 in the 1st place so that wasn't the issue ..


Sounds like BS to me. As far as I know the showmatch was constructed spontaniously. I also have no idea why kespa would get into any kind of legal trouble because they let a licensed player of them play SC2. After all, the negotiations were always about broadcasting rights, nothing else



So I say it's simply a kespa-is-being-a-greedy-asshole situation. They could've avoided this by coming to an agreement with Blizzard, but obviously they didn't. It obviously works for Gom, and quite well so.




1st : you are obviously misinformed ..

2nd (why I think you are misinformed) : they didn't because the demands were too high .. the deal with GoM was a undisclosed, while the deal with kespa was publicly released and well its pretty hard for kespa to accept
Religion is a dying idea .. || 'E-sport' outside Korea are nerds who wants to feel like rockstars. || I'm not gonna fuck with trolls on General Forum ever again .. FUCK!
Cofo
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1388 Posts
August 21 2010 14:33 GMT
#227
I was too tired to wake up for the match this morning (5:00 AM EST), so I missed it. But it sounds like there were at least a few games finished. Anyone know where I can find VoDs for these?
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Ome
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada157 Posts
August 21 2010 14:37 GMT
#228
Kespa is all about their fans and this move shows it. They cancelled the showmatch because Nada was behind and they didn't want their fans to see the loss.

PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 21 2010 14:41 GMT
#229
so if kespa is claiming they had nothing to do with it, then the vods will be out later i guess.
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
August 21 2010 14:42 GMT
#230
The OP has been updated. So I dunno why all this kepsa discussion is continuing.
There's no S in KT. :P
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51660 Posts
August 21 2010 14:44 GMT
#231
because it's most likely a cover-up to avoid a pr shamble.
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Tiax;mous
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
669 Posts
August 21 2010 14:51 GMT
#232
On August 21 2010 23:42 Baarn wrote:
The OP has been updated. So I dunno why all this kepsa discussion is continuing.

obviously no one is buying that , especially after carmac himself said it was kespa who intervened
pR0gR4m3R
Profile Joined February 2008
Spain1446 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 14:53:31
August 21 2010 14:52 GMT
#233
You wont believe guys, but in part, Im Happy

Im happy that KesPa has shown itself at the international esports community, so, Quake players, Cs players, everyone knows now WHAT KESPA IS AND WHY ITS A DANGER TO ESPORTS DEVELOPMENT
StarCraft-ESP.com Admin - Spanish StarCraft Community
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 14:59:06
August 21 2010 14:53 GMT
#234
On August 21 2010 23:51 Tiax;mous wrote:
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On August 21 2010 23:42 Baarn wrote:
The OP has been updated. So I dunno why all this kepsa discussion is continuing.

obviously no one is buying that , especially after carmac himself said it was kespa who intervened


No people just read the sensationalist topic and then comment is how it works. kespa is a good bad guy also with anything blizzard involved. It's getting really old.
There's no S in KT. :P
WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
August 21 2010 14:55 GMT
#235
need to see vods if anyone recorded. sounds like some sick first games. also has tlo commented at all on this event? playing with nada must have been awesome.
dementus
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Singapore1151 Posts
August 21 2010 14:57 GMT
#236
On August 21 2010 23:55 OneFierceZealot wrote:
need to see vods if anyone recorded. sounds like some sick first games. also has tlo commented at all on this event? playing with nada must have been awesome.


I second this, would've loved to watch these two geniuses go at it.
"I couldn't stop myself from having unreal macro and sick timing senses."
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
August 21 2010 15:00 GMT
#237
Official Comment from Carmac

I think all of this is getting blown out of proportion, so I think commenting on the issue would only create unnecessary controversy.
Clipped
Profile Joined August 2010
France122 Posts
August 21 2010 15:05 GMT
#238
That cover up is absolutely ridiculous. Why would ESL even mention KeSPA ? The crushing majority doesn't even know who or what KeSPA is. And insinuating NaDa would gg that early (something which surprised everyone including me) is just low.
iSiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1075 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 15:09:00
August 21 2010 15:08 GMT
#239
On August 22 2010 00:00 Kennigit wrote:
Official Comment from Carmac
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I think all of this is getting blown out of proportion, so I think commenting on the issue would only create unnecessary controversy.


I think it would be best to just lock the thread and update the op then.

Kespa intervened it isn't the end of the world guys. It was kind of a dick move but they held to the terms they put forward when they agreed to the show match. It got restreamed thusly it got shut down.
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Grantler
Profile Joined August 2010
United States228 Posts
August 21 2010 15:12 GMT
#240
At least they got to play game 2 (or 3 with issues), that made it all worth it.
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