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Did KeSPA cancel TLO vs Nada at IEM? - Page 2

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Merikh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States918 Posts
August 21 2010 11:05 GMT
#21
On August 21 2010 20:03 BattleSheen wrote:
can someone explain a little in depth about what just happened? how does kespa have control over what is streamed in korea? how are they able to stifle sc2?



<@Kennigit> NaDa was FORCED to GG out, because someone was streaming the showmatch on Afreeca (a korean streaming software). The KeSPA forced the people to stop NaDa playing any longer.
G4MR | I mod day9, djwheat and GLHF's stream
IamAnton
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada335 Posts
August 21 2010 11:05 GMT
#22
Kespa never cared about E-sports which is clearly evident from there 0 support of anything non Kespa-Sanctioned. thank god this useless organization is quickly getting flushed down the toilet.
"Man created God in his own image." - Ludwig Feuerbach
Hrafn
Profile Joined June 2010
Austria42 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 11:06:43
August 21 2010 11:06 GMT
#23
On August 21 2010 20:02 AyJay wrote:
And NOW I fully understand why Blizzard didn't want to negotiate with KeSPA

Makes me support any Blizzard decisions x100 times more even if that means profit for Activision.



Ahahaha oh wow. This is so sad.

/facepalm
Monokeros
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States2493 Posts
August 21 2010 11:07 GMT
#24
they aren't controlling what is streamed, from what i understand they simply said 'nada stop playing or you lose your money' :3 such a below the belt move on their part honestly.
Keep the Dream Alive twitch.tv/monokerros
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
August 21 2010 11:07 GMT
#25
Trying to find out exact details from ESL guys. Will post if i hear something more concrete.
G3nXsiS
Profile Joined July 2009
United States656 Posts
August 21 2010 11:07 GMT
#26
Well to be honest he was going to lose anyways but how did Kespa force him to GG. Did they call the manager and tell him to tell Nada to stop or what? If so then they wouldn't have let him go to Germany in the first place right? This doesn't make sense to me.
Hope is the first step on the road to dissapointment
KaiserJohan
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1808 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 11:08:00
August 21 2010 11:07 GMT
#27
Tried googling Kespa, brought up mostly stuff I cant read.

Havn't heard of Kespa before, can somone do a quick summary of what they do and why this happened? (for example-- why would IEM allow it to be cancelled? O_o)
England will fight to the last American
HeIios
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2523 Posts
August 21 2010 11:07 GMT
#28
On August 21 2010 20:07 Kennigit wrote:
Trying to find out exact details from ESL guys. Will post if i hear something more concrete.


Great.
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
August 21 2010 11:08 GMT
#29
Def a dick move by kespa
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51681 Posts
August 21 2010 11:08 GMT
#30
On August 21 2010 20:07 G3nXsiS wrote:
Well to be honest he was going to lose anyways but how did Kespa force him to GG. Did they call the manager and tell him to tell Nada to stop or what? If so then they wouldn't have let him go to Germany in the first place right? This doesn't make sense to me.


nada went to germany to promote avalon online for wemade.
but a showmatch was an awesome idea come up by esl.

shame kespa power tripped and this occured.
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PlosionCornu
Profile Joined August 2010
Italy814 Posts
August 21 2010 11:08 GMT
#31
So,having a pro gamer license actually sells your soul to kespa? I mean,If I'm a pro football player,and out of my curiosity I want to partecipate to some other sport event,like,a rally, I can't?
Merikh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States918 Posts
August 21 2010 11:08 GMT
#32
On August 21 2010 20:07 KaiserJohan wrote:
Tried googling Kespa, brought up mostly stuff I cant read.

Havn't heard of Kespa before, can somone do a quick summary of what they do and why this happened? (for example-- why would IEM allow it to be cancelled? O_o)


Type Kespa in the search bar right under the home link on the left navigation ;D
G4MR | I mod day9, djwheat and GLHF's stream
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
August 21 2010 11:09 GMT
#33
Yeah just confirmed with carmac.
Game was restreamed to Korea. Kespa found out, called wemade fox
Boom
Game done.
xlep
Profile Joined December 2009
Germany274 Posts
August 21 2010 11:09 GMT
#34
On August 21 2010 20:00 Motion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2010 19:56 SmoKim wrote:
yes it is

KeSPA > Bnet 2.0, atleast they could play that match again

fucking ridiculous


I was waiting for that match all day long and now this.. the first 2 games were very interesting!


there's about 10 pages about it in the IEM day 4 thread.


To sum the events up once more:
Kespa is an organisation that has contracts with every pro-player in korea and they only agreed to the showmatch if it is not steamed to korea. Someone restreamed it to korea and they pulled the plug by calling to colonge and telling NaDa to stop playing. Since he has a contract with kespa he had to stop or risk penalties.
(This is a basic version, I'm don't know too much details about the system of kespa since I only follow the scene since about a year)
skill is scissors beating rock
Narien
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden31 Posts
August 21 2010 11:09 GMT
#35
Yes, any organisation that forces children to forego all social life, work long hours every day of the week and basicly end their careers before 25 are good, and no, i'm not talking about taiwan shoe-factories :D
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
August 21 2010 11:10 GMT
#36
On August 21 2010 20:09 Kennigit wrote:
Yeah just confirmed with carmac.
Show nested quote +
Game was restreamed to Korea. Kespa found out, called wemade fox
Boom
Game done.


how does a random stream hurt kespa?
savior did nothing wrong
Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
August 21 2010 11:10 GMT
#37
Oh man KesPa... I guess this game, streamed in Korea would've caused terrible, terrible damage... somehow.

By the way, I just realize the deep link between mine and NaDa's name... *goes pro*
WrathBringerReturns said: No no no. Sarcasm is detected in the voice. When this forum is riddled with stupidity, you think I can tell every post apart? Fair enough it was intended sarcastically, was it obvious? Of course not.
G3nXsiS
Profile Joined July 2009
United States656 Posts
August 21 2010 11:10 GMT
#38
On August 21 2010 20:08 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2010 20:07 G3nXsiS wrote:
Well to be honest he was going to lose anyways but how did Kespa force him to GG. Did they call the manager and tell him to tell Nada to stop or what? If so then they wouldn't have let him go to Germany in the first place right? This doesn't make sense to me.


nada went to germany to promote avalon online for wemade.
but a showmatch was an awesome idea come up by esl.

shame kespa power tripped and this occured.



Ah yeah I forgot about that but I mean Nada was going to lose and the game was almost over anyways after that I did not see Nada in the interview which was interesting. Can anyone confirm though that it was really Kespa that did this?
Hope is the first step on the road to dissapointment
Necrosjef
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom530 Posts
August 21 2010 11:11 GMT
#39
Kespa are a shower of dicks.

Not sure I would rather have Blizzard as a friend than Kespa though, Blizzard's attitude to SC2 has been just as bad as Kespas behaviour.

Both organizations need to get the fuck out of things that don't concern them, Blizzard need to get the fuck out of Esports and focus on making games and Kespa need to stay the fuck out of stuff that isnt BW in South Korea.
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aprudds
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada144 Posts
August 21 2010 11:11 GMT
#40
On August 21 2010 20:07 G3nXsiS wrote:
Well to be honest he was going to lose anyways but how did Kespa force him to GG. Did they call the manager and tell him to tell Nada to stop or what? If so then they wouldn't have let him go to Germany in the first place right? This doesn't make sense to me.



Nada was in Germany to promote another game (not SC2) for his team Wemadefox. Kespa agreed to the show match as long as it was not streamed to Korea and was a local show match. Someone in Korea got ahold of the stream and was restreaming it on a Korean streaming site. Apparently Kespa saw this and called Germany to stop the match.
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