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Official State of the Game Podcast Thread - Page 1795
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
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Let it Raine
Canada1245 Posts
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zmansman17
United States2567 Posts
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Alexstrasas
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On November 15 2011 09:03 Let it Raine wrote: that cant be a real picture notice the red and yellow uniforms seems legit | ||
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Saechiis
Netherlands4989 Posts
On November 14 2011 05:55 Xpace wrote: Agreed, but downplaying what people have said, especially those that have been affected, rubs off the wrong way. I'm talking about what Husky said, in relation to how everyone on the internet was 'sensationalizing'. Makes it seem like YoonYJ and Dox, good folks who came forward, are simply stirring drama for attention. Also, no one's asking them to roast Gus. There's enough of that here. It's State of the Game, and I was hoping they would discuss the effects of this situation on the state of the game. Just my own 2 cents of course. Tyler's explained things reasonably. All the people putting a magnifying glass over Husky's words and taking them out of context is a proof of sensationalism in itself. He simply stated he can't comment on the situation because he isn't aware of what happened at PPSL and that he can't take the accusations scattered throughout hundreds of rant-threads as an objective source of information. Taking those words and concluding he's just calling victims attention whores, yeah, that's sensationalism right there. Can't believe anyone would argue that the esports community has a tendency to blow things up lol. | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On November 15 2011 09:21 Saechiis wrote: All the people putting a magnifying glass over Husky's words and taking them out of context is a proof of sensationalism in itself. He simply stated he can't comment on the situation because he isn't aware of what happened at PPSL and that he can't take the accusations scattered throughout hundreds of rant-threads as an objective source of information. Taking those words and concluding he's just calling victims attention whores, yeah, that's sensationalism right there. Can't believe anyone would argue that the esports community has a tendency to blow things up lol. he said he cant comment because he doesnt know the facts, then he makes a comment about it calling people sensationalists people arent taking him out of context, what he said was just stupid | ||
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Actraiser
United States47 Posts
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Mitchlew
Australia428 Posts
On November 15 2011 13:15 Actraiser wrote: Will SotG be airing tomorrow? If it does air this week it will most likely be at MLG. | ||
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AzurewinD
United States569 Posts
On November 12 2011 10:39 Qibla wrote: And to anyone saying that the facts aren't clear let me give you an example. YoonYJ qualified for the tournament. This can be verified by looking at the tournament results. Gus promised him flights to the event. This can be verified by the contract posted on SC2SEA.com and the facebook messages posted directly from Gus's facebook. http://www.sc2sea.com/showthread.php?t=2699 Gus told him the ticket puchase is being delayed due to sponsors being late with funds. This can be verified once again through the face book messages. http://www.sc2sea.com/showthread.php?t=2699 IPL released a statement saying that there were no such delays from them (i.e. Gus was lying). This can be verified on their Message to the community thread on TL. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=283544 YoonYJ wasn't sent to the tourney he qualified for. This can be verified from the absence of YoonYJ in the PPSL brackets. I don't see how this is not 100% irrefutable evidence of severe mishandling of an event at a bare minimum, and even if it turns out not to be Gus defrauding the community. Cluster fucks like this need to be talked about. ...are posted ad-nauseum all over this forum as well as all over /r/starcraft, many of them which have even more facts and information than the one above. Yet people are STILL throwing up their arms saying "Wahhh! But it's so hard to follow!!! : (" while claiming all of the accusations stem from hearsay like this: They were saying that throwing out an opinion on an issue flooded with unverified information and hearsay doesn't help anybody. ...Without even bothering to scratch the surface of the information available on the subject. | ||
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Rocor
United States55 Posts
Whether it is about the legitimacy of the cause given the sparse facts, or the fact that the community was able to raise so much so fast... it seems pretty relevant, and seems like something that could affect everyone long term | ||
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_Depression
United States251 Posts
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JustPassingBy
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Also, I'd like to note that Idra's cat is nowhere as cute as Byun's puppy! | ||
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_Depression
United States251 Posts
On November 16 2011 00:40 JustPassingBy wrote: Can you guys on the next SotG talk about the whole incident with Coca and Byun that happened in the ESVweekly? Especially since Idra and Demuslim, also threw one match for each other (most likely in something minor, comparable to ESVweekly considering code A spot is handed out in the monthly final, and not in the weeklies), and they will be participating in the GSL who is thinking of disciplinary measures for Coca and Byun (at least demotion from Code S for the first of them). Also, I'd like to note that Idra's cat is nowhere as cute as Byun's puppy! Just to clarify, the GSL handed out NO punishments, as it was not their tournament. Coca agreed to forfeit his spot in Code S as a punishment from the SlayerS team; he was also demoted to their B-team, and is no longer allowed to participate in tournaments or practice in the SlayerS house until the team feels he is ready to compete. | ||
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QTIP.
United States2113 Posts
On November 15 2011 09:02 Defacer wrote: Okay guys, never mind the trapeze artists with balls of steel, look at how much air that giant ass tiger is getting. How can there be anyone that thinks they can take that fucker on? LOL awesome pic ty | ||
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ELA
Denmark4608 Posts
I don't think that Diamond overreacted by suspending them from the tournament at all - What seems harsh now, with western eyes, is the way that SlayerS reacted by making CoCa forfeit his GSL Code S spot and pull him out of all tournaments for the forseeable future. I think it's important to realize, that from a Korean perspective, CoCa betrayed and put shame on not only himself, but also his team and his sport - Yes, this seems harsh with western eyes, judging by scale of the incident, but there are some cultural differences that come into play here, that everyone has to be aware of, before going "SlayerS overreacted - CoCa is just a kid" | ||
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Hardigan
Switzerland1297 Posts
On November 16 2011 00:40 JustPassingBy wrote: Can you guys on the next SotG talk about the whole incident with Coca and Byun that happened in the ESVweekly? Especially since Idra and Demuslim, also threw one match for each other (most likely in something minor, comparable to ESVweekly considering code A spot is handed out in the monthly final, and not in the weeklies), and they will be participating in the GSL who is thinking of disciplinary measures for Coca and Byun (at least demotion from Code S for the first of them). Also, I'd like to note that Idra's cat is nowhere as cute as Byun's puppy! pls inform yourself about the Idra/Demuslim incident first. Demuslim even talked to the admin and asked them if it would be ok. | ||
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rotegirte
Germany2859 Posts
On November 16 2011 02:47 ELA wrote: In addition to what has been said about Coca/Byung: I don't think that Diamond overreacted by suspending them from the tournament at all - What seems harsh now, with western eyes, is the way that SlayerS reacted by making CoCa forfeit his GSL Code S spot and pull him out of all tournaments for the forseeable future. I think it's important to realize, that from a Korean perspective, CoCa betrayed and put shame on not only himself, but also his team and his sport - Yes, this seems harsh with western eyes, judging by scale of the incident, but there are some cultural differences that come into play here, that everyone has to be aware of, before going "SlayerS overreacted - CoCa is just a kid" Thing is, it isn't really that harsh in western standards. It's time-out and restart, not a life ban. I mean, it's like the very core principal of nearly everything in life. | ||
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slicknav
1409 Posts
On November 16 2011 02:47 ELA wrote: In addition to what has been said about Coca/Byung: I don't think that Diamond overreacted by suspending them from the tournament at all - What seems harsh now, with western eyes, is the way that SlayerS reacted by making CoCa forfeit his GSL Code S spot and pull him out of all tournaments for the forseeable future. I think it's important to realize, that from a Korean perspective, CoCa betrayed and put shame on not only himself, but also his team and his sport - Yes, this seems harsh with western eyes, judging by scale of the incident, but there are some cultural differences that come into play here, that everyone has to be aware of, before going "SlayerS overreacted - CoCa is just a kid" In the Western e-sports world, it might seem harsh. But if you look at other sports (hockey, baseball, basketball, football, ect...) teams suspending players for things they say/do is common place. Its not that surprising, considering how e-sports is much more developed and organized in Korea than anywhere else. Its probably better to compare the actions Korean e-sports teams with that of Western sports teams. | ||
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
SC2 is still young and growing in Korea, a match fixing scandal would destroy it before it could get established. That's why they have to give out harsh punishments for even the least offensive match fixing to discourage that kind of behavior and let fans know that they are trying to keep SC2 competitive. | ||
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TORTOISE
United States515 Posts
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