EPTFor the people asking about VOD.
I'm assuming that means 10/20 in U.S., which is still ~10 hours away
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GwSC
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For the people asking about VOD. I'm assuming that means 10/20 in U.S., which is still ~10 hours away | ||
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tsuxiit
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WhiteDog
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Roxy
Canada753 Posts
search tab doesnt like it when i type / into it | ||
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geNis
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On October 20 2011 06:17 Roxy wrote: what is /v/? search tab doesnt like it when i type / into it /v/ is 4chan's video game board. | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
On October 20 2011 05:08 da_head wrote: i still cant believe that artosis didnt like the 60fps stream from ipl. I mean i know he's a little technologically illiterate but cmon -___- 60fps>30fps in every possible way (except for bandwith consumption xD) Common sense or logic doesn't have any influence on Artosis' likings. This guy is the most dogmatic guy on the scene :D And I also noticed that when he doesn't know about something (for instance there's a good chance he didn't watched IPL), when asked about it, he will not say "I don't know", he will say "I didn't like it". It's the same with his players' appreciations xD Haha, this post sounds extremely negative, but it's not, it's a part of his charm (and his aura) About the 60fps > 30fps streams, last year the very first MLGs (or was it IEM ? Bleh I don't remember which...they had the octostuff plugin for streaming) were in 60fps in a very low quality. After a while they upgraded the quality but at 30 fps, and everyone complained about the loss of quality, and yeah, the ugly 60fps were a pleasure to watch, the less ugly 30 fps was an horror. | ||
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Tektos
Australia1321 Posts
- The lack of moderation on /v/ is refreshing, makes it a lot more fun than LR threads which are just mind numbingly stupid. I wouldn't bother browsing it at any other time than during a live event such as MLG or GSL though. | ||
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Mylkyjo
Australia110 Posts
Pretty good show, anyway. A little too Brotoss, but that can't be helped really. | ||
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BigBadBeaver
Canada272 Posts
On October 20 2011 01:55 AlternativeEgo wrote: Can someone from the US please tell me what the Canada joke was all aboot? The stereotype is canadians like to say "eh" all the time. | ||
NonY
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On October 20 2011 10:00 Mylkyjo wrote: When they were reviewing the Blizzcon brackets, I think it is pretty poor form from Geoff to be snidely laughing at a few players as if they're terrible and shouldn't be there or something. He is the last person who should be doing something like that... ridiculous. if this is about the mlg system, then it's irrelevant that he's the one taking part in it. he's still able to comment on it objectively. and he has, saying that it's bad. he doesn't think that he should have gotten so far on one 4th place finish at the start of the season. but he's not going to boycott mlg or something ridiculous. he shows up and tries his best and the system puts him where it puts him. none of this disqualifies him from commenting on poorly organized tournaments. what might be relevant is if the ppl who designed mlg 2011's rank system laughed at how blizzcon's top 16 let some bad players slip in. but even then it's a bullshit exercise to call them out on it. different circumstances at different times. everyone makes mistakes. in fact, the people who have made a similar mistake are arguably in a better position to call someone out on making that mistake. the whole "consider the source" idea is for people that are out of their depth and have to resort to extraneous bullshit to make up their mind rather than the facts and arguments themselves. the fact is that the blizzcon tournament has a bunch of mismatches and the argument is that blizzard could put together a more competitive tournament. it doesn't matter who is saying it if it's true and correct. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
I wonder if he will reply! | ||
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Sleight
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On October 20 2011 11:22 Liquid`Tyler wrote: ridiculous. if this is about the mlg system, then it's irrelevant that he's the one taking part in it. he's still able to comment on it objectively. and he has, saying that it's bad. he doesn't think that he should have gotten so far on one 4th place finish at the start of the season. but he's not going to boycott mlg or something ridiculous. he shows up and tries his best and the system puts him where it puts him. none of this disqualifies him from commenting on poorly organized tournaments. what might be relevant is if the ppl who designed mlg 2011's rank system laughed at how blizzcon's top 16 let some bad players slip in. but even then it's a bullshit exercise to call them out on it. different circumstances at different times. everyone makes mistakes. in fact, the people who have made a similar mistake are arguably in a better position to call someone out on making that mistake. the whole "consider the source" idea is for people that are out of their depth and have to resort to extraneous bullshit to make up their mind rather than the facts and arguments themselves. the fact is that the blizzcon tournament has a bunch of mismatches and the argument is that blizzard could put together a more competitive tournament. it doesn't matter who is saying it if it's true and correct. Would anyone else watch a new courtroom-drama series starring Tyler? It's moments like these I feel like he has missed his calling... Rationale and objectivity have little place on the internet but he certainly fights the good fight. | ||
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Tektos
Australia1321 Posts
On October 20 2011 11:22 Liquid`Tyler wrote: the whole "consider the source" idea is for people that are out of their depth and have to resort to extraneous bullshit to make up their mind rather than the facts and arguments themselves. the fact is that the blizzcon tournament has a bunch of mismatches and the argument is that blizzard could put together a more competitive tournament. it doesn't matter who is saying it if it's true and correct. I agree with your stance on the "consider the source" idea and Incontrol being entitled to his opinion. However, it is my opinion that given that the blizzcon tournament has both NesTea and MVP hence it is more competitive than MLG, IPL and NASL  The Blizzcon tournament has representation from all areas around the world. Sure the top SEA, TW, CN and LA may not be able to compete with NesTea or MVP (who knows though, we might be pleasantly surprised) but they got into the tournament through a qualifier for their region so they deserve to be there. If Blizzcon just wanted the best players from the world (rather than the best few from each region) then they would have simply given invites to the Top 32 at GSL, which would be rather stupid in my opinion. Give the relatively unknown players their time in the spotlight. Sure they may not have a high chance of bringing the world elite to an ace match in a Bo3 but it shines some light on the SEA, CN, TW and LA scenes making people realize that there IS competitive Starcraft 2 outside of NA, EU and Korea. | ||
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how2TL
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On October 20 2011 11:46 Tektos wrote: I agree with your stance on the "consider the source" idea and Incontrol being entitled to his opinion. However, it is my opinion that given that the blizzcon tournament has both NesTea and MVP hence it is more competitive than MLG, IPL and NASL The Blizzcon tournament has representation from all areas around the world. Sure the top SEA, TW, CN and LA may not be able to compete with NesTea or MVP (who knows though, we might be pleasantly surprised) but they got into the tournament through a qualifier for their region so they deserve to be there. If Blizzcon just wanted the best players from the world (rather than the best few from each region) then they would have simply given invites to the Top 32 at GSL, which would be rather stupid in my opinion. Give the relatively unknown players their time in the spotlight. Sure they may not have a high chance of bringing the world elite to an ace match in a Bo3 but it shines some light on the SEA, CN, TW and LA scenes making people realize that there IS competitive Starcraft 2 outside of NA, EU and Korea. 1. If MVP and Nestea roll over everyone, I wouldn't consider that a "competitive field". 2. Bolding "they deserve to be there"? Incontrol definitely "qualified" by your logic for his MLG position but I doubt you would bold the same encouragement for him. | ||
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Galaxy613
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Ercster
United States603 Posts
On October 20 2011 11:22 Liquid`Tyler wrote: ridiculous. if this is about the mlg system, then it's irrelevant that he's the one taking part in it. he's still able to comment on it objectively. and he has, saying that it's bad. he doesn't think that he should have gotten so far on one 4th place finish at the start of the season. but he's not going to boycott mlg or something ridiculous. he shows up and tries his best and the system puts him where it puts him. none of this disqualifies him from commenting on poorly organized tournaments. what might be relevant is if the ppl who designed mlg 2011's rank system laughed at how blizzcon's top 16 let some bad players slip in. but even then it's a bullshit exercise to call them out on it. different circumstances at different times. everyone makes mistakes. in fact, the people who have made a similar mistake are arguably in a better position to call someone out on making that mistake. the whole "consider the source" idea is for people that are out of their depth and have to resort to extraneous bullshit to make up their mind rather than the facts and arguments themselves. the fact is that the blizzcon tournament has a bunch of mismatches and the argument is that blizzard could put together a more competitive tournament. it doesn't matter who is saying it if it's true and correct. Although his point isn't relevant (if he was referring to MLG's brackets), it is somewhat valid. Normally someone shouldn't give their negative opinions about others skill or about the brackets of a tournament, when they themselves have been performing terribly and probably shouldn't be where they are in the bracket as a result. However, Geoff's case is much different. SOTG is all about the opinions of the hosts. | ||
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Tektos
Australia1321 Posts
On October 20 2011 12:26 how2TL wrote: 1. If MVP and Nestea roll over everyone, I wouldn't consider that a "competitive field". 2. Bolding "they deserve to be there"? Incontrol definitely "qualified" by your logic for his MLG position but I doubt you would bold the same encouragement for him. 1) They roll over almost everyone in the GSL too, the point is they are the best players in the world so the Blizzcon tournament represents a higher upper tier of competitor than any other tournament bar GSL.You've split my post up rather than taking it as a whole. Blizzard's intent was to have the best players from each region. They pretty much got that. Incontrol's was insulting the tournament and Blizzard because HE believes they should have just got the world elite. Imagine it was the Olympics, 100meter sprint. If the best 100 sprinters in the world were all American would the Olympics just race those 100 people? No, they choose the best few from a number of countries to qualify/race. 2) I wasn't dissing Incontrol at all, I was saying he had no right to insult Blizzard for the way they organized their tournament because it achieved their intended objectives (best players from each region). If you want to bring MLG's format into this, their objective was to reward people for attending multiple MLGs. Based on this objective then yes they definitely achieved what they set out to (Incontrol always attended, and was rewarded because he kept his pool seeding). I do however disagree with the objective of MLG in rewarding people for repeat attendance rather than continued high performance. | ||
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Let it Raine
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jsdk
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On October 20 2011 10:00 Mylkyjo wrote: When they were reviewing the Blizzcon brackets, I think it is pretty poor form from Geoff to be snidely laughing at a few players as if they're terrible and shouldn't be there or something. He is the last person who should be doing something like that... If JP had said it, would you still take issue with it? Typical "you can't criticize anyone unless you can do it yourself" fallacy, but with some mixed in pissing on incontrol's recent results. | ||
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