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All Quiet
Profile Joined July 2010
United States62 Posts
August 06 2010 04:25 GMT
#181
Broken = very good

=_=
The meek shall inherit the earth. The rest of us are going to the stars.
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
August 06 2010 04:32 GMT
#182
Actually the more I play zvt the easier it becomes. Incorporating banes in my play have been freaking amazing. The old biomech ball that I would lose 90% of my battles with are now decimated.

However, Idra vs Drewbie really shows what my zvts could be like and I definitely don't think I could beat that terran ball. Put a player with progamer mechanics in a late game tvz and they won't lose.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 06 2010 04:37 GMT
#183
On August 06 2010 13:32 kNyTTyM wrote:
However, Idra vs Drewbie really shows what my zvts could be like and I definitely don't think I could beat that terran ball. Put a player with progamer mechanics in a late game tvz and they won't lose.

Sounds like SC1 TvZ according to Sea.
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sjschmidt93
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2518 Posts
August 06 2010 04:40 GMT
#184
A Zerg buff isn't needed, but a Terran nerf is.
My grandpa could've proxied better, and not only does he have arthritis, he's also dead. -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-06 04:44:02
August 06 2010 04:43 GMT
#185
On August 06 2010 13:37 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2010 13:32 kNyTTyM wrote:
However, Idra vs Drewbie really shows what my zvts could be like and I definitely don't think I could beat that terran ball. Put a player with progamer mechanics in a late game tvz and they won't lose.

Sounds like SC1 TvZ according to Sea.


Haha. Well sometimes it seems true. Flash vs Zero on ps and Flash vs Kwanro on roadrunner come to mind
ig0tfish
Profile Joined July 2009
United States345 Posts
August 06 2010 04:44 GMT
#186
For your second poll, remember that in SC1 Terran required more APM out of protoss and zerg to keep up
Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
August 06 2010 05:08 GMT
#187
ZvT is hard cue zerg qq. learn to play better.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-06 05:16:59
August 06 2010 05:16 GMT
#188
I would request that the OP add a third poll with two options, "Is it annoying to listen to Zergs complaining about Terran being imba?" and "Is it stupid annoying to listen to Zergs complaining about Terran being imba?"

They are certainly not as imba as people are making them out to be, and I hardly think that ZvT is unwinnable or as impossible as people say either.

Race balance among the top 10K (points) seems to be even as the average win percentage of all races is 59%. Terran 59.73%, Protoss 59.33, Zerg 59.08. However Sentient has pointed out that the percentage of Terran increases as the sample size decreases which could suggest that Terran are stronger than the other races. Granted this could be due to other factors, but it is something to note. 44% of the Top 200 are Terran vs 29% of the TOP 10K. Also, Tamerlane points this out in the Ladder stats thread (see above).


Source

I realize that this doesn't really mean much, but if Zerg or even ZvT was as super imba as some Zergs are making it out to be then you'd see a much bigger skew. I don't think that the game is perfectly balanced at all, but neither was Brood War.
Scroatal
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia6 Posts
August 06 2010 05:34 GMT
#189
I switched from terran to zerg believe it or not. I find that ive worked out some truly gay strategies that can make T players flip out and just abuse you constantly.
1. Use your drone to kill the SCV making the barracks - if its earlier use it to kill the scv making the Supply depo. It just makes people hate. No matter what they do your drone will kill the SCV before they react and bring one to kill yours. It slows them down to begin with espicially if you can hit the one doing the Supply depo as it supply blocks them for a few moments allowing you to get a small gap ahead.
Rock ' Please- Nerf paper - Scissors is fine.'
.ImpacT.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States390 Posts
August 06 2010 06:32 GMT
#190
One very SIMPLE thing would take care of this - putting tank Overkill back into the game. Tactics would actually MATTER then (like sending in 2-3 lings first to soak a round of tank fire.)
Therapist..
Profile Joined July 2010
United States57 Posts
August 06 2010 06:48 GMT
#191
I've stuck with zerg this whole time... but if things stay this way after awhile I'll just quit the game.
gillon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1578 Posts
August 06 2010 20:50 GMT
#192
The 21% who switched are horrible players, and are the kind of players who plays FOTM in all games.
www.teamproperty.net | "You should hate losing, but you should never fear defeat." - 이윤열
Shiladie
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1631 Posts
August 06 2010 20:54 GMT
#193
I hope more and more people switch out of zerg, as it will drastically reduce the number of retarded ZvZs I will have to play...
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-06 20:59:44
August 06 2010 20:57 GMT
#194
On August 06 2010 14:16 overt wrote:
I realize that this doesn't really mean much, but if Zerg or even ZvT was as super imba as some Zergs are making it out to be then you'd see a much bigger skew. I don't think that the game is perfectly balanced at all, but neither was Brood War.


No you wouldn't. The matchmaker would compensate and zerg's matchmaking ratings would be lower so they'd face weaker terrans and still maintain the same win %. Win % is enforced by the matchmaking system over large sample sizes. The only reason it goes above 50% is because diamond players are on the top end of the bell curve and are statistically more likely to play people with a lower matchmaking rating than them.

The stats that tell us balance are going to be centered around the average matchmaking rating by race, a stat we don't have access too. You can't even use # of points in diamond because those seem to inflate through the bonus pool.
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