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love.less
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom293 Posts
July 09 2010 14:36 GMT
#81
i didnt really say it would change anything i said it has the potential to give esports a little more
credibility and for something that is at the moment, bluntly put, looked on as something fadish or maybe even childish? i aint to good with wording my thoughts.. anyway it could help it might not make a difference hell with all these bad reactions to the change it could defo hinder but you know hopers gotta hope
Bibdy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3481 Posts
July 09 2010 14:37 GMT
#82
On July 09 2010 23:33 floor exercise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2010 23:28 D-Lite wrote:
see all those sexual predators try to kidnap miley cyrus this weekend coz she broadcasts her realID on a regular basis on every form of media known to man.....

no i didnt either, im not exactly sure what privacy concerns people are qq'ing about on the latest rage against the realID(machine).

i honestly couldnt see it being any sort of hinderance what so ever to people trying to be taken seriously in esports.

the only people i see it will be a problem for is the guy who makes an alt forum account just to flame people coz he has nothing constructive to say, or the 11 year old with parental control settings.

either way my 9 year old nephew is on facebook and i dont see any paedophiles coming for him.
this is just another form of blizzard hate by people with nothing to do


Compelling argument friend, I can see how a celebrity being in the public spotlight is identical to regular working folks names being displayed on public video game message boards.

I also agree about your nephew, no one has raped any small children I know, so that's all the evidence I need to know sexual predators are a myth, like unicorns.


Inc b4 "If they're determined, they'll get him anyway"
D-Lite
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom223 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-09 14:41:05
July 09 2010 14:37 GMT
#83
On July 09 2010 23:33 floor exercise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2010 23:28 D-Lite wrote:
see all those sexual predators try to kidnap miley cyrus this weekend coz she broadcasts her realID on a regular basis on every form of media known to man.....

no i didnt either, im not exactly sure what privacy concerns people are qq'ing about on the latest rage against the realID(machine).

i honestly couldnt see it being any sort of hinderance what so ever to people trying to be taken seriously in esports.

the only people i see it will be a problem for is the guy who makes an alt forum account just to flame people coz he has nothing constructive to say, or the 11 year old with parental control settings.

either way my 9 year old nephew is on facebook and i dont see any paedophiles coming for him.
this is just another form of blizzard hate by people with nothing to do


Compelling argument friend, I can see how a celebrity being in the public spotlight is identical to regular working folks names being displayed on public video game message boards.

I also agree about your nephew, no one has raped any small children I know, so that's all the evidence I need to know sexual predators are a myth, like unicorns.


unless you've been living under a rock for the last 5 years, chances are your real name is already out there for anyone to see anyway, perfect example 192.com gives house prices, residents, and how much other houses in your street sold for (based on the UK electoral register)

this is a site anyone can access for a small fee (it used to be free) so once again your arguement is invalid.

if anyone can actually explain how having your realID is a negative connotation on your impeccable
internet reputation im all ears


"What can you do on 192.com?

192.com tells you more about people, businesses & places in the UK than any other directory. More than just directory enquiries, 192.com lists full names, addresses, age guides, property prices, aerial photos, company & director reports, family records, & much more! "

some info about the site cleared up the address in the edit, by the way im in no way promoting this site
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Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
July 09 2010 14:38 GMT
#84
argh! the internet!

tis a dark, scary place.

I really hope they change this
My. Copy. Is. Here.
Smackzilla
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States539 Posts
July 09 2010 14:38 GMT
#85
On July 09 2010 12:47 StaR_Robo wrote:
maybe this is just a way of getting free PR


Man, you beat me to it.
You see a mousetrap. I see free cheese and a f&%*ing challenge - Scroobius Pip
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
July 09 2010 14:39 GMT
#86
Outside Korea, games are seen as what kids do. Simple as that. Gaming is becoming more mainstream as gamers move on from childhood to adulthood, but since the majority of society is still 50 something baby boomers(in the US at least) games will not become mainstream until most of them are gone. RealID isn't going to change that one bit.
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love.less
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom293 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-09 14:44:01
July 09 2010 14:42 GMT
#87
im glad you cleared that up myles thanks, but one question why wont it help "one bit"? and also does this mean you have no expectations of esports becoming any bigger with sc2, at least in our lifetime seing as the 50 something baby boomers probably have 50 something years left?

wtf is a baby boomer anyway? haha
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
July 09 2010 14:42 GMT
#88
On July 09 2010 23:37 D-Lite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2010 23:33 floor exercise wrote:
On July 09 2010 23:28 D-Lite wrote:
see all those sexual predators try to kidnap miley cyrus this weekend coz she broadcasts her realID on a regular basis on every form of media known to man.....

no i didnt either, im not exactly sure what privacy concerns people are qq'ing about on the latest rage against the realID(machine).

i honestly couldnt see it being any sort of hinderance what so ever to people trying to be taken seriously in esports.

the only people i see it will be a problem for is the guy who makes an alt forum account just to flame people coz he has nothing constructive to say, or the 11 year old with parental control settings.

either way my 9 year old nephew is on facebook and i dont see any paedophiles coming for him.
this is just another form of blizzard hate by people with nothing to do


Compelling argument friend, I can see how a celebrity being in the public spotlight is identical to regular working folks names being displayed on public video game message boards.

I also agree about your nephew, no one has raped any small children I know, so that's all the evidence I need to know sexual predators are a myth, like unicorns.


unless you've been living under a rock for the last 5 years, chances are your real name is already out there for anyone to see anyway, perfect example 192.co.uk gives house prices, residents, and how much other houses in your street sold for (based on the UK electoral register)

this is a site anyone can access for a small fee (it used to be free) so once again your arguement is invalid.

if anyone can actually explain how having your realID is a negative connotation on your impeccable internet reputation im all ears


You'd have to know my name to look me up. If I don't give you my name it'd be damn near impossible to find anything about me.

Without real name - very diffucult to find someone.
With real name - very easy.
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Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-09 14:48:06
July 09 2010 14:45 GMT
#89
On July 09 2010 23:42 love.less wrote:
im glad you cleared that up myles thanks, but one question why wont it help "one bit"? and also does this mean you have no expectations of esports becoming any bigger with sc2, at least in our lifetime seing as the 50 something baby boomers probably have 50 something years left?


The Esport scene is certainly getting bigger outside Korea, but it won't become like baseball or football in America for a long time, if ever.

And I don't see how realID possibly could help. Like I said before, some 50 year old is going to think better of a gamer because he used his real name instead of an alias? I doubt it.

edit: Baby boomer is term for the generation in US the born in the 10-15 years after WW2. All the service men came home lonely and horny and created the largest generation in America. They pretty much hold the greatest amount of influence in general American society.
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love.less
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom293 Posts
July 09 2010 14:47 GMT
#90
You'd have to know my name to look me up. If I don't give you my name it'd be damn near impossible to find anything about me.

Without real name - very diffucult to find someone.
With real name - very easy.


tbh i dont think anybody would want to look you up even if they did have your real name or me for that matter but i can see the problem with realID using real names for people know in the community, popular guys who dont want their personal info to be public knowledge the likes of sean day9 plott and greg idra fields. oh wait what?
D-Lite
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom223 Posts
July 09 2010 14:48 GMT
#91
has anyone thought of the players such as

Greg "idra" Fields
Sean "Day[9]" Plott
Hayden "haypro" Hussein
i could go on but i wont

these people's names are common knowledge amongst the sc community, a quick google will even bring up some of day9's OLD photo's
why arent these the people who are up in arms over real ID telling the world of what potention threats it causes.

IdrA has to be one of the most disliked players in starcraft, yet i dont see anyone baying for his blood, or tracking him down to the CJentus house.

i think this is just all blown out of proportion and people are beginning to take it way to far.

meh could just be me though, for all i know thousands of people could have been aprehended on their way to korea with a butter knife in hand
Real men proxygate
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
July 09 2010 14:49 GMT
#92
On July 09 2010 23:47 love.less wrote:
Show nested quote +
You'd have to know my name to look me up. If I don't give you my name it'd be damn near impossible to find anything about me.

Without real name - very diffucult to find someone.
With real name - very easy.


tbh i dont think anybody would want to look you up even if they did have your real name or me for that matter but i can see the problem with realID using real names for people know in the community, popular guys who dont want their personal info to be public knowledge the likes of sean day9 plott and greg idra fields. oh wait what?


Most likely someone wouldn't want to look me up. However, in the rare chance some random kid on the internet doesn't like what I say, I'd rather not give them the information to find me and harass me.
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love.less
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom293 Posts
July 09 2010 14:49 GMT
#93
oh man that was so epic timing on your post dlite >.< to bad you wernt a few seconds faster!
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
July 09 2010 14:51 GMT
#94
I still think this is best analogy I've seen for the issue.

Not giving your name out online is locking your doors. It's highly unlikely that you'll be burglarized, and they could get in anyways if they really wanted, but you lock your door anyways make things harder for them.
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ScienceRob
Profile Joined April 2010
United States382 Posts
July 09 2010 14:52 GMT
#95
Got in touch with my ex-flatmate, whose sister works as a GM for Blizzard, to see what the internal buzz on this was. Apparently, at the moment the employees are largely as pissed as the players, and she stated that despite attempts to keep it hushed, it has become known that the big creative players within Blizzard are pretty much as unhappy about this as we are. Everybody has been told they are not free to comment on this situation outside of specially prepared statements.

It’s still going ahead, however (and here’s where in-house rumours and hearsay really start coming into play): from what they’ve picked up, the Blizzard leads have been told in no uncertain terms that the non-gameplay-related direction of the game is working to a different blueprint now. GC and company are free to play with shiny new talent trees all they like, for example, but for the first time the decisions regarding Battle.net implementation, Real ID, and plans for the general acquisition of new players for the business are no longer in Blizzard’s own hands, and that’s not going down too well.


Perhaps whoever posted this is full of shit but it is interesting either way.
Carpe Diem
love.less
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom293 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-09 14:53:37
July 09 2010 14:52 GMT
#96
the chances of somebody actually coming and harrasing you over a post they dont agree with cant be very big, when you take into account that such things are A:against the law B: very time consuming C: possibly expensive? and a whole lot of other letters followed by reasons
D-Lite
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom223 Posts
July 09 2010 14:53 GMT
#97
On July 09 2010 23:49 Myles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2010 23:47 love.less wrote:
You'd have to know my name to look me up. If I don't give you my name it'd be damn near impossible to find anything about me.

Without real name - very diffucult to find someone.
With real name - very easy.


tbh i dont think anybody would want to look you up even if they did have your real name or me for that matter but i can see the problem with realID using real names for people know in the community, popular guys who dont want their personal info to be public knowledge the likes of sean day9 plott and greg idra fields. oh wait what?


Most likely someone wouldn't want to look me up. However, in the rare chance some random kid on the internet doesn't like what I say, I'd rather not give them the information to find me and harass me.



your still not explaining why its a bad thing to have your real name on the internet myles.
obviously were of mixed opinions because i couldnt care less about my real name being posted
and you feel very strongly against it, yet you still havent provided any reasons why.

what is a random kid gonna do with your real name if he does take offence to what you have said on the internet, which actually reaffirms my point i made earlier "the only people who will care about realID are people who like to flame"

even if my entire address was posted every time someone looked at my profile i couldnt care less, what is someone gonna do with it anyway? send a letter bomb to my house, dont think so.

Real men proxygate
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
July 09 2010 14:54 GMT
#98
On July 09 2010 23:52 love.less wrote:
the chances of somebody actually coming and harrasing you over a post they dont agree with cant be very big, when you take into account that such things are A:against the law B: very time consuming C:possible expensive? and a whole lot of other letters followed by reasons


I said it would be very rare, but with all the people on the internet I know it will happen to someone. People have killed others over internet game bullshit. You're extremely naive if you think this won't happen to a small minority.
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D-Lite
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom223 Posts
July 09 2010 14:55 GMT
#99
On July 09 2010 23:54 Myles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2010 23:52 love.less wrote:
the chances of somebody actually coming and harrasing you over a post they dont agree with cant be very big, when you take into account that such things are A:against the law B: very time consuming C:possible expensive? and a whole lot of other letters followed by reasons


I said it would be very rare, but with all the people on the internet I know it will happen to someone. People have killed others over internet game bullshit. You're extremely naive if you think this won't happen to a small minority.



provide references with your claims please, they are getting more exaggerated by the post
Real men proxygate
CROrens
Profile Joined May 2007
Croatia1005 Posts
July 09 2010 14:55 GMT
#100
i personally dont care about RealID cuz i dont post on that shitty forum of theirs. i just love to see when people unite against stomething thats obviously wrong...

that topic having 2500(!?!) pages is epic

i hate activision and what they have done to IW and CoD, i really hope that wont happen to Blizz
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