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Blizzard invites Korean progamers for balance talk - Page 6
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Dog22
United States140 Posts
That food looks good. | ||
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0neder
United States3733 Posts
This is e-sports. Fans want excitement. Doesn't matter if the map is inconvenient of you have to think out of the box, deal with it. Stork had to. | ||
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Midj
Canada253 Posts
Please stick around, having translations from a much more SC filled media is amazing! | ||
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Drakkart
80 Posts
@Anfere maybe i am ignorant but maybe regarding SC2 i just didn't hear these names. I know some of the names being big with SC but SC and SC2 are two different games. and SC2 has it's own stars already and so i wondered why those names were not on the list. | ||
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pencilcase
United States330 Posts
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LlamaNamedOsama
United States1900 Posts
On July 06 2010 02:58 Drakkart wrote: actually i am not sure if that is good news. it may sound good that blizzards gets external expertise. on the other hand this means blizzard is open for influence and as humans tend to favor options and such stuff they also favor people so the opinion which is proclaimed by the one being nicest to the listener counts more. willingly or not this is a fact. blizzard has all the data, they would be able to watch all the matches. why now risc such influence from outside? another thing that bugs me is that i don't know even half of them. maybe they were famous in bw so? history repeats itself constantly and if gaming history tells one thing than it is "new game, new cards, new stars" so why ask "dinosaurs" how to style a porsche? besides these guys, if so successfull, for sure did not spent the time playing SC2. they had to practise for whatever tournament. why not pick those really shining with the new game? which already spread their concerns? my hope now is that blizzard did not just pick these 9 nobodys of the sc2 world (no offense here honestly i just compared your names to like TLO, artosis, white-ra... ) hopefully they really asked a whole bunch of people and even those mentioned. another aspect that would worry me if they asked only asians is that on the asian servers people play more agressivly there is much more cheese involved so much unlikely you see tier 3 units here. when the hell are these going to get balanced out? I only signed up to TL and even I know who most of them are. Seriously, pro-gaming exists outside of the HDH invitational. It also bothers me that it seems like you haven't really been reading this thread, since A) the "dinosaurs" thing is actually the complete opposite of what's going on (there were a couple people in the beginning pages complaining that there WEREN'T BW pros in there, since the selected ARE SC2 pros), and B) "only asians" asked - people already noted that Western gamers were asked in the first couple of pages. | ||
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kAra
Germany1391 Posts
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Lumire
United States607 Posts
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ooni
Australia1498 Posts
http://kotaku.com/5580080/korean-gamers-are-faster-than-a-speeding-bullet | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On July 06 2010 02:58 Drakkart wrote: actually i am not sure if that is good news. it may sound good that blizzards gets external expertise. on the other hand this means blizzard is open for influence and as humans tend to favor options and such stuff they also favor people so the opinion which is proclaimed by the one being nicest to the listener counts more. willingly or not this is a fact. blizzard has all the data, they would be able to watch all the matches. why now risc such influence from outside? another thing that bugs me is that i don't know even half of them. maybe they were famous in bw so? history repeats itself constantly and if gaming history tells one thing than it is "new game, new cards, new stars" so why ask "dinosaurs" how to style a porsche? besides these guys, if so successfull, for sure did not spent the time playing SC2. they had to practise for whatever tournament. why not pick those really shining with the new game? which already spread their concerns? my hope now is that blizzard did not just pick these 9 nobodys of the sc2 world (no offense here honestly i just compared your names to like TLO, artosis, white-ra... ) hopefully they really asked a whole bunch of people and even those mentioned. another aspect that would worry me if they asked only asians is that on the asian servers people play more agressivly there is much more cheese involved so much unlikely you see tier 3 units here. when the hell are these going to get balanced out? Just because you don't know them doesn't make them nobodies. Also, lots of non-koreans were asked as well, they just haven't told anyone because they were asked not to. Zerg Kim Won-ki (oGs. Cool) Bakoesik (Gerrard.Prime) Yihyeongju (Check.Prime) Cool is a SC Progamer that retired some years ago. Considered one of the best players on Asia in SC2. You may know him as Fruittrader. Gerrard is an ex-WC3 pro. He played in the EU vs Asia matches and won both his games (3-2 vs both Haypro and Nazgul iirc). Check is one of the most old school WC3 pros in the world - he's been at the top level since the original game was released more or less. Also one of the best Zergs on Asia during the beta. Lost 2-3 to Nazgul in the Eu vs Asia games, I don't remember how his other match went. Has several high placements in tournaments. Terran Gimseongje (oGs.NCYellow) Yigwanwoo (Ozil) Yijungheon (DayFly.Prime) Old school SC pro Intotherainbow, one of the better Terrans on Asia, lots of tournament appearances. Dunno Asian scene enough to tell you what he's won. I have no idea who Ozil is, might have a different aka. DayFly is a legendary WC3 player, and has done fairly well in SC2 as well. Beat Hasuobs 3-1 in the EU vs Asia matches I believe. Protoss Seogisu (oGs.sSKS) Jeongminsu (NEXGenius) Hwanggyuhun (oGs.Spunky) Long time SC1 pro and one of the very best players on Asia in SC2. Won one of the first big LANs (the PGR21 LAN I think? Or was it PlayXP hm...), won TL Altitude Invitational. Not sure who Genius is. Spunky is a really, really, really old school SC1 pro and has been one of the top ranked protoss players on Asia throughout the beta. | ||
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Mannerheim
766 Posts
On July 05 2010 10:51 jamesr12 wrote: I have heard of all these people except: Yigwanwoo (Ozil) Yijungheon (DayFly.Prime) DayFly is a legendary Wc3 player, one of the best Orc players of all time. I can imagine his skill transferring really well to SC2. e: fb; | ||
HaN-
France1920 Posts
Anyone know where i can find replays of oGs.Cool ? | ||
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maybenexttime
Poland5712 Posts
On July 06 2010 20:44 HaN- wrote: Nice insight Jinro, thx. Anyone know where i can find replays of oGs.Cool ? Here are some I've found some time ago: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=112991¤tpage=115#2304 | ||
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ironchef
Canada1350 Posts
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Marou
Germany1371 Posts
On July 05 2010 10:51 jamesr12 wrote: I have heard of all these people except: Yigwanwoo (Ozil) Yijungheon (DayFly.Prime) i don't know Ozil either but DayFly is a legend in wc3, he was the only orc player back then when this race was really really weak in the last days of roc, around 2003, i remember seeing him at eswc2003 he was the only orc after the groupstage, and he was the only orc playing at pro level. He was the one. | ||
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MorroW
Sweden3522 Posts
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tarsier
United Kingdom223 Posts
i don't want blizzard to give europe/us a noob version of the game, so yes i'll let the koreans have a say in balance ahead of unprofessional whiners like idra. | ||
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Andre
Slovenia3523 Posts
It's always nice to ask for player input, but i think a lot of this players will be biased. I hope they help Blizzard as much as they can though ^_^. | ||
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koppik
United States676 Posts
I'm surprised PvP received the most hate out of all of the match ups. It was at least before the tank nerf my favorite to watch of the three mirror match ups. | ||
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Ocedic
United States1808 Posts
On July 05 2010 17:29 NEWater wrote: Speaking as an Asian, I'll have to say that the vast majority of us aren't the creative types. It's more likely that a small minority of the Korean players invented the new tactics, and those new tactics managed to proliferate everywhere and make the whole lot of other Asian players seem equally as creative and proficient as that small minority, because we make up for our general lack of creativity with the ability to absorb and copy new stuff very quickly. >_> Speak for yourself please. People like you make all westerners think of Asians as mindless automatons. And why is it that every single thread that even mentions the word korean degenerates into a discussion about whether korea will be the best? Why not just wait and see before making your completely unfounded predictions? | ||
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