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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
On May 28 2010 05:56 maybenexttime wrote: Change? How about cease to exist? Stop being dellusional... I'm just not overreacting. What do you know about the situation? Nothing. Nada. Zero. Zilch. Your massive amount of speculating as to "what will happen" is meaningless and does nothing but add fuel to the nerd raging fires. | ||
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Calidus
150 Posts
Board games do tend to be a better analogy. Anyone can buy monopoly and play it but if you have a tournment and sell tickets to it then you need MB permission and might have to play them a royality. The best part is none of this matters is North and South Korea start ww3 and drag china and the US into it. | ||
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Longshank
1648 Posts
On May 28 2010 05:53 hacpee wrote: How many of those clan members play 12 hours a day, 6 days a week for 4+ years just to make it? Don't know about Puma and Intel but WE.Pepsi certainly do/did. | ||
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hacpee
United States752 Posts
On May 28 2010 05:56 I_Love_Bacon wrote: This reeks of people unable to accept change. Omg, progaming teams/houses might change?!?!?! Blasphemy. How will an e-sport exist without such things?!?!?!?! Esports will still exist without these things. Its just that the quality of the games won't be as high and I won't bother watching. I used to watch SC2 games but they're so riddled with mistakes and low level play that I just couldn't take it. | ||
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iounas
409 Posts
On May 28 2010 05:56 I_Love_Bacon wrote: This reeks of people unable to accept change. Omg, progaming teams/houses might change?!?!?! Blasphemy. How will an e-sport exist without such things?!?!?!?! Like it is in America and Europe - meaning people playing from home on various insignificant shitty internet tourneys = huge step down | ||
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
On May 28 2010 06:00 hacpee wrote: Esports will still exist without these things. Its just that the quality of the games won't be as high and I won't bother watching. I used to watch SC2 games but they're so riddled with mistakes and low level play that I just couldn't take it. So a beta that was constantly undergoing shifts in strategies and patches was riddled with mistakes? Whoddathunk it? | ||
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hacpee
United States752 Posts
On May 28 2010 05:59 Longshank wrote: Don't know about Puma and Intel but WE.Pepsi certainly do/did. So these world elite pepsi guys spend 12 hours a day, 6 days a week on this game? What do they play? | ||
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QueueQueue
Canada1000 Posts
On May 28 2010 06:00 hacpee wrote: Esports will still exist without these things. Its just that the quality of the games won't be as high and I won't bother watching. I used to watch SC2 games but they're so riddled with mistakes and low level play that I just couldn't take it. Yeah, god forbid people are still making errors while playing a game that is still in beta. | ||
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Woyn
United Kingdom1628 Posts
On May 28 2010 06:02 hacpee wrote: So these world elite pepsi guys spend 12 hours a day, 6 days a week on this game? What do they play? Chinese War3 team | ||
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Tristan
Canada566 Posts
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
On May 28 2010 06:01 iounas wrote: Like it is in America and Europe - meaning people playing from home on various insignificant shitty internet tourneys = huge step down Are you sure? Did you hear from your sources at OGN, MBC, etc... that they would no longer be sponsoring teams? Were you in on the Stone Mason's meeting where they promised to use their powers to not sponsor professional gaming teams outside of a few dollars? Did you find out from GOM that not only would they own the rights to broadcast, but rule it with an iron fist and stifle all other tournaments, even local or small online ones? Do you people realize how absurd this is? You have a few small statements made from the corporations that have lead to this and everybody thinks they can suddenly read the future. What are you all doing spending time on the internet? You could be out solving crimes. | ||
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hacpee
United States752 Posts
On May 28 2010 06:02 I_Love_Bacon wrote: So a beta that was constantly undergoing shifts in strategies and patches was riddled with mistakes? Whoddathunk it? Yes, I see mistakes at the most basic level. Basically, the level of play right now is at the foreigner SC1 level. There are many Micro mistakes and lack of multi-tasking. This has nothing to do with unit combos or strategies. | ||
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QueueQueue
Canada1000 Posts
On May 28 2010 05:53 Amnesia wrote: Fuck SC2. lol. Seriously. Who wants to watch a retarded 1a game that takes so little skill whatsoever? If SC1 dies I will quit the Starcraft scene for good. Shows how little you know about the game. The people that play like this lose, terribly. The option to play the game in a "skill-less" manner is present, however doing so makes you lose. | ||
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hacpee
United States752 Posts
Its interesting to see. its a shame that those people are playing such a slow and turtlish game. Also a shame there aren't more teams that do this to compete. In the end, it leads to stagnant play and lack of innovation. | ||
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orgon
United States20 Posts
On May 28 2010 05:53 Amnesia wrote: Fuck SC2. lol. Seriously. Who wants to watch a retarded 1a game that takes so little skill whatsoever? If SC1 dies I will quit the Starcraft scene for good. ^Bai In all seriousness if you own something, someone else can't profit 100% from it. It's called royalties, and Blizz has every right to collect royalties on every game that is broadcast for profit by the Korean companies. This is how the business world works but if Kespa goes to court well there the business world doesn't operate because judges/politicians can be bought off. That sounds jaded but its the truth. Regardless I think SC2 will be more of an international esport and there will be less focus on Korea as the leader. In fact I could care less about SC1 except maybe the finals of some event. I mean just take a look at the streams on this site, I haven't seen anybody personally stream their own SC1 games in a long time. | ||
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Mylin
Sweden177 Posts
On May 28 2010 05:58 Calidus wrote: Why are poeple worried about an monopoly? Every Major sports league(NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL, MLS) in the US in a monopoly. granted by the government. I believe Europe operates the same way for the most part(Football/American Soccer being the expection?). This also open the door for a players union. Does anyone really think blizzard really wants to micro manage a pro-league? They would much rather just beable collect a royality check and have the final say large issues. Board games do tend to be a better analogy. Anyone can buy monopoly and play it but if you have a tournment and sell tickets to it then you need MB permission and might have to play them a royality. The best part is none of this matters is North and South Korea start ww3 and drag china and the US into it. Cause for them (NFL, NBA etc) their only concern is getting as much hype around their sport and get as many people watching/going to games as people. A game companies primary concern is selling as many copies of their games as possible and that might not always align with whats best for e-sports. | ||
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heishe
Germany2284 Posts
I'm pretty sure all of the EG guys do the same ( in WC3). I'm also pretty sure that there are plenty of other team players who do the same. Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to argue that the "foreign" eSports scene is as big as in South Korea. But eSports (especially in Europe) is on the rise. eSports here being like in SK is well in the realm of possibilities, it just needs a little more time (I'm talking about 5-20 years), when gaming and competetive gaming will be part of literally every kids life everywhere in Europe (like it is in the most developed countreys already). It's still just a problem of social paradigm. But that will change soon enough, I'm sure. Even my brother, who is like the most anti-nerd guy I've ever known (all about partying and getting drunk) plays the occasional FIFA match on ESL already. edit: by the way, I hope the admin that warned me reads this: I just want to apologize for not elaborating further. I just rage quitted the forums after I wrote that post, as I was really mad at that point because he was blatantly stating the false opinions of his (War3 has no broadcastnig culture? wtf). | ||
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Amnesia
United States3818 Posts
On May 28 2010 06:06 QueueQueue wrote: Shows how little you know about the game. The people that play like this lose, terribly. The option to play the game in a "skill-less" manner is present, however doing so makes you lose. Sorry I am ~1700-1800 Diamond. While not good I am not bad either. And not really, BW is just the better game, obviously. EDIT: Tell me what makes SC2 so fun? lol as a spectator sport, it is the most fucking boring to ever watch. Actually playing it is not even that fun either. | ||
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bmml
United Kingdom962 Posts
On May 28 2010 05:35 Kralic wrote: Really because I remember following the 2009 tour unless I was just high and thought I was watching it. Guess I'm wrong (no need to be such a dick about it) but I was fairly sure one of the streaming things had to close down or possibly reform during the 2nd WoW expansion. | ||
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SchOOl_VicTIm
Greece2394 Posts
It's only a matter of time until we'll have to pay for even a "simply decent' stream to watch sc2. Even if there will be a free one, it will be totally unwatchable, on purpose of course to push the audience into buying the paid stream (wcg anyone??). Now hang on to your horses for banning permission of (free?) live streaming folks!! | ||
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