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GOM TV/Blizzard Sign Exclusive Broadcast Agreement - Page 24

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bueks
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany19 Posts
May 27 2010 10:14 GMT
#461
I wonder why everybody thinks Kespa runs esport just right. Last OSL/MSL finals were horrible events (im not talking about the actual games).The PL schedule is insane and wasnt there something like a scandal going on?? If there ever was the time for a change, this is it.
Kaolla
Profile Joined January 2003
China2999 Posts
May 27 2010 10:16 GMT
#462
Fuck blizzard... they are really going too far...
Ungrateful bastards... Bah can't believe i ever respected them...
its me
HeIios
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2523 Posts
May 27 2010 10:16 GMT
#463
On May 27 2010 19:14 bueks wrote:
I wonder why everybody thinks Kespa runs esport just right.


They have tricked themselves into thinking that's the only way Stacraft can be done.
Eury
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden1126 Posts
May 27 2010 10:17 GMT
#464
On May 27 2010 19:14 bueks wrote:
I wonder why everybody thinks Kespa runs esport just right. Last OSL/MSL finals were horrible events (im not talking about the actual games).The PL schedule is insane and wasnt there something like a scandal going on?? If there ever was the time for a change, this is it.


Not to mention that the popularity of Starcraft peaked years ago, and since then have been in steady decline, but no, they are doing a great job.
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1975 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-27 10:18:51
May 27 2010 10:17 GMT
#465
On May 27 2010 19:14 bueks wrote:
I wonder why everybody thinks Kespa runs esport just right. Last OSL/MSL finals were horrible events (im not talking about the actual games).The PL schedule is insane and wasnt there something like a scandal going on?? If there ever was the time for a change, this is it.


The fact you're saying "and wasn't there something like a scandal" shows you have no clue about BW esports. KesPA might not have done the perfect thing in every situation, but they still spend a ton of money spreading esports in Korea, and what does Blizzard do? Blizzard just go in, spend £0, and give a monopoly to GOM to do whatever the hell they want. Kespa do a better job than Blizzard's idiot esports representative (el oh el, WoW arena tourney manager) could ever do, anyways.
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
May 27 2010 10:18 GMT
#466
Also, Gom-TV will host Global Starcraft II league, Starcraft II World Championship, as well as Clan Battles and Streak (?) Battles in the future.


Global sc2 leagues? Their pro league maybe? GLOBAL! Nice! SC2 WC also sounds good and clan battles will creat some good matches for sure (remember TL vs EG).

What are streak battles?
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
HeIios
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2523 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-27 10:20:07
May 27 2010 10:19 GMT
#467

What are streak battles?


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T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
May 27 2010 10:20 GMT
#468
On May 27 2010 19:14 bueks wrote:
I wonder why everybody thinks Kespa runs esport just right. Last OSL/MSL finals were horrible events (im not talking about the actual games).The PL schedule is insane and wasnt there something like a scandal going on?? If there ever was the time for a change, this is it.

How is an internet only broadcast with no corporate sponsors superior to the 2 tv channels + many corporate sponsors setup of Kespa.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
May 27 2010 10:21 GMT
#469
On May 27 2010 19:17 Eury wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2010 19:14 bueks wrote:
I wonder why everybody thinks Kespa runs esport just right. Last OSL/MSL finals were horrible events (im not talking about the actual games).The PL schedule is insane and wasnt there something like a scandal going on?? If there ever was the time for a change, this is it.


Not to mention that the popularity of Starcraft peaked years ago, and since then have been in steady decline, but no, they are doing a great job.


Ratings aren't going down. You're mistaking the live attendance with tv audience.

Live attending dropped alot because both channels moved their studios to outskirts of seoul while before that, they were ran in smaller studios, in crowded areas, providing with many visitors.

For years, OGN was broadcasting their games in the biggest pc bang of Seoul, in middle of the biggest shopping mall, that's why there were so many people.

MBC for instance, never had huge live crowds because the games were broadcasted in their own building studios, with every other show, hence limiting public access.

You guys really don't know what you are talking about.

deth
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia1757 Posts
May 27 2010 10:21 GMT
#470
cant wait for people to start streaming gomtv's service..

bring back Tasteless, bring in artosis and if you can get him, SDM!
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13069 Posts
May 27 2010 10:21 GMT
#471
Eh i hope Blizzard will fail and land on their faces i hate em so much.

Ok you can have your SC2 and at least put some effort into developing it but can they really do something about BW ?? I thought KESPA bought the rights to broadcast BW like ages ago and its a done deal. Nothing can be done about this at least not in Korea with Korean law backing them up or Im missing something here ????
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-27 10:25:46
May 27 2010 10:22 GMT
#472
Fuck blizzard, this is terrible for the korean scene...

I'm not buying another product of theirs if this goes ahead, be it sc2, diablo 3 or whatever. Don't mess with pro BW!
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Hectic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia159 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-27 10:29:07
May 27 2010 10:27 GMT
#473
On May 27 2010 18:59 T.O.P. wrote:
Many foreigners don't understand the implications of having GomTV as the exclusive broadcaster. GomTV will only be able to run GomTV starleague, there won't be a pro league participating. So instead of having players live in team houses, SC2 players will live at home practicing with no steady income to pay for food and rent. They'll fight for the 40k prize money offered every 3 months. There are so many people who think that conditions for progamers will improve if Blizzard is in charge. They wrong, conditions will only improve if there are esports dollars. That money will have to come from the huge corporate sponsors or the audience. Unfortunately, esports fans have a history of not being willing to pay for esports so no revenue can be generated through ticket sales.

The good news for foreigners is that they will provide an english stream. If they arrange it the same way as the last season of GomTV. Then there will be a free version and a paid version. Free viewers will have access to a 320*240 stream and LQ vods after a 3 day delay. Members will have access to a 640*480 stream and HQ vods with a DRM download option asap. I remember that they charged $50 for premium in the last season of GOM Starleague.


why cant the sponsors of the proleague teams just advertise on another channel, and put their teams into a different competition?

surely a TV station would pay for broadcasting rights if its something that will attract viewers?

is there any chance of new teams being created with new sponsors?

im not sure how it all exactly works
Only if you beleive.
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1975 Posts
May 27 2010 10:28 GMT
#474
On May 27 2010 19:27 Hectic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2010 18:59 T.O.P. wrote:
Many foreigners don't understand the implications of having GomTV as the exclusive broadcaster. GomTV will only be able to run GomTV starleague, there won't be a pro league participating. So instead of having players live in team houses, SC2 players will live at home practicing with no steady income to pay for food and rent. They'll fight for the 40k prize money offered every 3 months. There are so many people who think that conditions for progamers will improve if Blizzard is in charge. They wrong, conditions will only improve if there are esports dollars. That money will have to come from the huge corporate sponsors or the audience. Unfortunately, esports fans have a history of not being willing to pay for esports so no revenue can be generated through ticket sales.

The good news for foreigners is that they will provide an english stream. If they arrange it the same way as the last season of GomTV. Then there will be a free version and a paid version. Free viewers will have access to a 320*240 stream and LQ vods after a 3 day delay. Members will have access to a 640*480 stream and HQ vods with a DRM download option asap. I remember that they charged $50 for premium in the last season of GOM Starleague.


why cant the sponsors of the proleague teams just advertise on another channel, and put their teams into a different competition?

is there any chance of new teams being created with new sponsors?

im not sure how it all exactly works


Because there will be no more tournaments BUT GOM's, they'll have a monopoly.
iounas
Profile Joined July 2008
409 Posts
May 27 2010 10:29 GMT
#475
On May 27 2010 18:59 T.O.P. wrote:
Many foreigners don't understand the implications of having GomTV as the exclusive broadcaster. GomTV will only be able to run GomTV starleague, there won't be a pro league participating. So instead of having players live in team houses, SC2 players will live at home practicing with no steady income to pay for food and rent. They'll fight for the 40k prize money offered every 3 months. There are so many people who think that conditions for progamers will improve if Blizzard is in charge. They wrong, conditions will only improve if there are esports dollars. That money will have to come from the huge corporate sponsors or the audience. Unfortunately, esports fans have a history of not being willing to pay for esports so no revenue can be generated through ticket sales.

The good news for foreigners is that they will provide an english stream. If they arrange it the same way as the last season of GomTV. Then there will be a free version and a paid version. Free viewers will have access to a 320*240 stream and LQ vods after a 3 day delay. Members will have access to a 640*480 stream and HQ vods with a DRM download option asap. I remember that they charged $50 for premium in the last season of GOM Starleague.

Thats what Im thinking.. Unique pro scene in Korea is dead.. Why would any company fund something that is only on internet with small audience..
Im not paying anything to watch people play a game like Im not paying anything to watch football..
It will end up like it is now outside Korea with no teams and just some guys playing it as a hobby..
IdrA: stalkers actually do negative damage. when you shoot a marine with a stalker it gains health.
deth
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia1757 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-27 10:31:17
May 27 2010 10:30 GMT
#476
On May 27 2010 19:28 Garrl wrote:
Because there will be no more tournaments BUT GOM's, they'll have a monopoly.


Whats the difference with kespa having the monopoly of RIGHTS for broadcasting, than gomtv having them?

OSL/MSL will continue to run (if OGN/MBC want to run them), and im sure GOM will negotiate OGN/MBC to split PL broadcasting rights.
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
May 27 2010 10:32 GMT
#477
On May 27 2010 19:27 Hectic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2010 18:59 T.O.P. wrote:
Many foreigners don't understand the implications of having GomTV as the exclusive broadcaster. GomTV will only be able to run GomTV starleague, there won't be a pro league participating. So instead of having players live in team houses, SC2 players will live at home practicing with no steady income to pay for food and rent. They'll fight for the 40k prize money offered every 3 months. There are so many people who think that conditions for progamers will improve if Blizzard is in charge. They wrong, conditions will only improve if there are esports dollars. That money will have to come from the huge corporate sponsors or the audience. Unfortunately, esports fans have a history of not being willing to pay for esports so no revenue can be generated through ticket sales.

The good news for foreigners is that they will provide an english stream. If they arrange it the same way as the last season of GomTV. Then there will be a free version and a paid version. Free viewers will have access to a 320*240 stream and LQ vods after a 3 day delay. Members will have access to a 640*480 stream and HQ vods with a DRM download option asap. I remember that they charged $50 for premium in the last season of GOM Starleague.


why cant the sponsors of the proleague teams just advertise on another channel, and put their teams into a different competition?

surely a TV station would pay for broadcasting rights if its something that will attract viewers?

is there any chance of new teams being created with new sponsors?

im not sure how it all exactly works

Because the decision makers behind Kespa are all the big Corporate Sponsors. Blizzard already said no to these Corporate sponsors. So they're probably not enthusiastic about sponsoring SC2 now.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1975 Posts
May 27 2010 10:32 GMT
#478
On May 27 2010 19:30 dethrawr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2010 19:28 Garrl wrote:
Because there will be no more tournaments BUT GOM's, they'll have a monopoly.


Whats the difference with kespa having the monopoly of RIGHTS for broadcasting, than gomtv having them?

OSL/MSL will continue to run (if OGN/MBC want to run them), and im sure GOM will negotiate OGN/MBC to split PL broadcasting rights.


Because KesPA is a corporation, GOM is a company - GOM wants to knock out it's competitors, which is why they won't license OSL/MSL.
epi
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada115 Posts
May 27 2010 10:34 GMT
#479
This is the nuclear option. I don't think Blizzard thinks that they can run anything close to what OGN and MBC have going with SC1. I don't think they care. This is about showing Kespa that they mean business, and they are perfectly okay with killing the SC1 scene and having a smaller SC2 scene, if that's what it means.

It's a pretty good negotiation tactic. The windows have been deliberately left open on the Gom deal so that Kespa can still surrender and negotiate a settlement which leaves SC1 more or less in place. Blizzard is also counting on any potential lawsuit ruling in its favour.
deth
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia1757 Posts
May 27 2010 10:37 GMT
#480
On May 27 2010 19:32 Garrl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2010 19:30 dethrawr wrote:
On May 27 2010 19:28 Garrl wrote:
Because there will be no more tournaments BUT GOM's, they'll have a monopoly.


Whats the difference with kespa having the monopoly of RIGHTS for broadcasting, than gomtv having them?

OSL/MSL will continue to run (if OGN/MBC want to run them), and im sure GOM will negotiate OGN/MBC to split PL broadcasting rights.


Because KesPA is a corporation, GOM is a company - GOM wants to knock out it's competitors, which is why they won't license OSL/MSL.


Kespa is run like a company, and it wanted to knock out its competitors (blizzard, gom) which is why it wouldnt license GOM. See my point?

GOM said they are happy to negotiate with OGN/MBC and it would be silly for them not to, given the fans expect the services, and they can make money from deals which cost them little to make.
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